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I'd like to say that Heinel and Endrance are both fairly proud of themselves.
In other news, I take back what I said after reading Baxx and Koji's posts, it seems as if grinding CAN be enjoyable depending on how it is used, and that it is present in all MMOs and thus unavoidable. At the time of my post I was thinking specifically of Lineage 2 which is the ultimate grind fest.
Few MMOs are as bad as Lineage 2 in terms of grinding, and its unfair to take that one extreme and apply it to all grinding in general, like I have done (as well as potential other posters).
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