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Originally Posted by Shade
And? He enjoys grinding, thus proving that Ashen's claim is invalid. The means of how he achieves his enjoyment aren't a factor.
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Considering him as an exception, that would indeed be a factor. Grinding in general and in most games is simple, monotonous and very easy (grinding in L2 is easy as crap, it just takes uber long) gameplay-wise. Sounds like a dream for dedicated gamers, eh?
Some people here are just trying to prove that the only reason people consider grinding as fun, is if they talk over vent with friends (which objectively has nothing to do with grinding - I could also read a book or watch TV while grinding, but does that have something to do with the grinding itself? No.), hence somehow making grinding enjoyable REGARDLESS of the grind. Anything can be fun if done with good friends being on the same wavelength as you or them just being addicted to it, because of having randomly set up "goals" in the game (hence "withoutthinkingaboutit-illusions").
Grinding is outdated and MMOs simply should get rid of making it be the main part of the game. Make most of it missions, quests, instances, organized event fights with ingame-TV, GIVE US A PLOT, hell, even online-RPing is more enjoyable even for someone like me who tends to dislike it alot. Iuno, there's so many options, since MMORPGs have so much space to fill. Grinding COULD be fun, if the outcome wouldn't depend so much on it. Grinding in most games is now 90-99%. Make it 50% and I'm fine with it.