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Originally Posted by omokiron
No offense but do you have any idea how broken a chanter would be if they could heal 80% as well as a cleric and dps 80% as well as a damage dealer? Their buffs are being boosted, their role is pretty clear cut though I'm sure many will take them out of that role it still remains for the time being their role in Aion: Buffers. If the buffs are strong enough then there will always be a huge demand for Chanters regardless of their other abilities. Their ability to heal and buff is a huge benefit and I don't see why you think they should be basically an 'uber class'. I guess you've never really played a strong buff job (if anybody knows of BRD in FFXI you know what I mean) because they are ALWAYS wanted and desired and usually get snatched up super fast and always are busy and having something to do. With the sheer mountain of abilities of chanter and most classes you'll be busy. Though I guess if you or other chanters don't know how to dynamically apply yourself or adapt to changing situations in battle, then the class of chanter would be boring since you'd only do the same ability over and over and sitting.
I've seen buff classes played wrong and people complain they're weak and boring, I've seen them played right and seen how great a party benefits from it. If you wanna go ahead and dps in a party against strong mobs then that's your prerogative but don't say you think the class needs to be changed when A) You haven't played it B) It's not fully balanced/finished C) You don't know how it plays yet and D) You don't have any inkling as to what game balance means or else you wouldn't of posted 80% at all.
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Dont get me wrong... i never said ANY chanter should be able to do 80% dps AND healing....BUT if a chanter chooses to specialize in DPS and stack agility or strength etc then they could be better in DPS and less effective when it comes to mana efficientcy/healing and visa versa
"C) You don't know how it plays yet"
Sure its a bit early to say but beta testers have already posted some concerns in korean forums from the sounds of it so lets talk...
"You don't have any inkling as to what game balance means or else you wouldn't of posted 80% at all."
Im not sure why people get so worked up at the idea of having chanter as a hybrid rather than a support class. Is 80% really that bad? I mean seriously... in most mmo's some geared hybrids can out heal or out dps other classes dedicated to dps/healing. I wouldnt want chanters to out DPS/heal other classes in general at all.
In the past, ive played DD classes and have always welcomed the competition and variety. With variety of dps comes new and useful buffs like the example stated above with melee receiving auras.
"Though I guess if you or other chanters don't know how to dynamically apply yourself or adapt to changing situations in battle, then the class of chanter would be boring since you'd only do the same ability over and over and sitting."
Look at the current skills. I guarantee you that there is going to be "OP and Preferred" auras and there will be the bastard child auras that people dont use often. With the auras that are available right now i just dont see a situation in a boss fight where you would have to be switching auras constantly.
Theres going to be preferred auras for the group your in! Healer groups might want mana regen, tank group dodge or dmg reduction, dps melee maybe the crit or chance to hit one? If there was an aura that allowed the effected player to 100% avoid the next attack with a single charge/CD(for example) i could see aura switching viable. None of them look that "active".
If you think our time is going to be consumed with buffing and changing auras i think your wrong. Can this all change? definitely. Will it change drastically? probably not.
My point is they gave us a good selection of healing and damage spells for a reason... im hoping that those spells can benefit a pve raid/pvp scenario and are closer to competing with other classes than just a joke.
Something i thought id add regarding the FFXI comments. FF was a very unique mmo. People compare aion to a combo of WoW and L2 mostly, not FF. In FF its damn near impossible to solo mid-late game with each class and because of that buffers can specialize at buffing without much worry of having to solo or pvp.
I think ncsoft recognizes the complaints that L2 players had with getting bored with buff classes. Buffing classes we rarely used as mains and were mostly botted for pvp or people logged on them to pass out buffs and then logged onto a main.
we cant really have a bard or a pure buff specialist in aion when pve and pvp especially is going to be such a big part of the game.
FF was almost all party based.