[danstaff]

Originally Posted by Otium

I'll give you an example: In Lineage2

... this isn't L2. This is its own game with a lot less to choose from as far as classes are concerned. At least consider other options from other mmo's.

Its close minded to only make assumptions about this game based on ONE other when they have already taken a lot of ideas from both FFXI and wow. I'm sure people have pointed out others as well.

What other mmo's do you even have experience with besides l2?

Originally Posted by Otium

How does that make my argument invalid? What people mean with the ability to solo, is how fast you can lvl up without the help of a party. Ofc you can kill a mob no matter how many minutes it will take you, but will it compensate in the end? I'm almost sure it won't, and wouldn't make sense if it did.

Because im pretty sure that ncsoft already stated this lvl system was going to offer several options and its not going to be mostly party based. If chanter could solo but it took them forever then people wouldnt do it and they would have to lvl in a group in order to keep up. It wouldnt be fair to require one class to need a group to lvl when a SM can lvl so easily on its own.

NCsoft made the annoucement regarding solo leveling with the intention of allowing any class to efficiently lvl...

Imagine if people prefered solo exp... would all the chanters, clerics, or even templars commonly just get left in the dust?
They are gonna have fun waiting for us to catch up if we cant quest or solo efficiently. Doesn't sound very well rounded.

Did the cleric and chanter descriptions change?

Cleric/chanter - ...um..your weak and can solo but..eh its gonna take you twice as long to kill a mob if your lucky to survive. Yup no solo for you! Your dps attacks are a joke and you better find a party asap.

It wouldnt be imbalanced to give priest classes the ability to utilize dps gear if in order to succeed as their role end game they would have to re-gear.

Originally Posted by Casino

what i see here is otium has never played wow, and danstaff and a few others of us have never played EQ. both games had buffers, wow had buffers that could also do other things, EQ had buffers that .. buffed and thats it. its really a mindset difference based on past experience.

whereas otium is, yes, very closed minded, the others need to realize that this 'dream' of going beyond our priestly stereotype very likely won't happen at least not to the extent you want. think back to wow, dan, priests had a buff called inner fire that gave them nearly 1000 attack power. this buff might have led people to believe that wow priests could do decent melee damage as well as smites at the same time they had a decent selection of heals. turns out that a melee wow priest is quite laughable.

my point here is to not get too riled up about the possibilities, but keep an open mind. the one thing that the pro-melee chanters have going for them is the armor, mail. mail has a higher chance of having melee stats than if our class was restricted to cloth robes and such.

Originally Posted by Rathi04

Chanters very well could end up being a true support class, the thing that irks me is that otium claims he knows matter of factly he knows exactly how the class will turn out.

Yea and thats what bugs me as well, i've posted many times that i could be completely wrong.

Enjoy your gladiator otium. Go troll in the SM forums and complain about their pets potentially healing or tanking. Leave us to our class.