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Originally Posted by Zalunaya
...If the stigma system turns out to be useful as it seems, then the fights should be at least as varied as GW. If it gets to be just as boring as the average MMO(hit buttons in this order to kill this type of person...like your average 'kill Hunter, use skill x, y, then z if he does this skill in WoW) then I will probably quit anyways, as I'm getting really bored/frustrated with the lack of innovation in the MMOs out there.
Yep, sounds pretty cynical I s'pose, but that's how I'm looking at it. If Aion's another clone then...that's exactly what it is to me, even if it has shiny graphics.
Looks promising so far though, so don't ruin my hope :P
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The problem with the Stigma system as made with other various other games is that there will always be ideal ones to be using. Unless somehow, the Stigmas are made so that they are only mildly useful to the point where they don't cause a huge upset. It's very much like equipments; there will always be ideal ones that you want because they are the best, I don't think that the Stigmas are any different, i.e. there are skills that are ideal for certain classes therefore resulting in clockwork still in the end.
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Originally Posted by 1up
WoW hasn't got good end-game content? Hmm, maybe you expect too much from games. There are so much PvE raids and they are really good. You can do World PvP, Arena and Battlegrounds. And then there are a lot of other things you can do like getting that really nice epic mount.
Only thing that killed WoW for me was how they made it easier and easier for the whining casual players. Took me a few months to get attuned to MH and BT and then they change it so that every noob can walk in those instances without doing anything at all.
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It was good, wasn't great. The problem was because the devs really didn't care a whole lot about what the players thought. There was a lot of raid/dungeon content, but the fights were pretty much re-runs from the pre-BC days. I guess there was only so much that they could do anyway. It wasn't until Sunwell that things really went up a notch, and by then, Sunwell was so far up there only a small percent of the population actually made it that far. On top of that, random factors and idiots is what killed the raids. Fights like Archimonde and Kil'jaeden were almost completely random (much like Vael was) and any idiot that didn't pay attention or made a mistake would wipe the raid. That's not really a test of how good a raid/guild is, it's based on luck and how lucky the server is to receive a good amount of good players which is why there's only a very small amount of guilds out there who actually made the top world firsts. They weren't necessarily good, they just had people that knows how to pay attention. Idiots just killed WoW for me, after making it to Bloodboil, I just gave up putting up with it. So no, I would not necessarily call that great end-game content when so much of it practically requires luck and decent people. Sunwell/Naxx is more along the lines of great end-game content.
I also don't think that people were necessarily whining about the attunements as many people didn't. Sure, there were some attunements that were pretty stupid, MC and Kara for example, but the attunements was made so that guilds couldn't just jump into content that was more difficult than they can handle. They ended up removing it because guilds just stopped accepting members that weren't already attuned because they didn't want to spend a couple days of the week to have to go back just to attune one person and just have to do it all over again whenever someone new joined. After all, I wouldn't want to be playing a game that I started after everyone else and couldn't experience the same thing they did simply for the reason that I started late.
All in all, what I'm trying to say is that WoW just dumbed down the raids for people who couldn't pay attention for 10-15 minutes of a fight. It really leaves a lot to be wanted from those who actually are better than that. It's like knowing calculus and have to go back to basic math, you just don't even want to put up with it.