[Postiez]

It seems like you count challenge and effort as the same thing, to me its really not, to me effort is more time then time challenge. To me the ideal game doesn't take a lot of time to play, but when you do play its never easy.

My post sounded like I was kinda being sarcastic when I really wasn't, I play wow, I understand working for something for a long time and finally getting and feeling great. But i don't think that its necessary to have a lot of time involved. Personally I don't like leveling, I have more fun improving my skill at the game at max level.

I don't really know where im going with this, but ya, thats my feelings on your post.