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Old 12-16-2008, 09:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My 2 cents from browsing through korean aion forums

First off, I'm not going to bother translating directly from korean forum chats . . . like most forums world-wide they're filled with crap most of the time (note: not all of the time . . . just most of the time).

Secondly, I haven't played the game yet, and I won't bother to even if I can go through the trouble of gaining access to Korean servers. I want to wait and play NA version when it comes out here. I'll just play L2 and/or CoX meanwhile.

Therefore, everything that I'll be writing is my opinion derived from second hand sources available from the Korean aion forums.

Taking those caveats in mind, take everything that I write with heavy dose of skepticism. I do. It'll probably change by the time we get our version .

Anyways after browsing through aionsource forums, most folks seem to think there is a massive imbalance with classes. After browsing through individual class forums in Korean forum chats, there does seem to be much *****ing and moaning about their classes . . . every single one of them. Even the sorcerers. Less moaning in templar and clerics sections.

What can we conclude from this? If you're the glasses are half-empty type, every classes suck except for templars and clerics. If you're the glasses are half-full type, most classes are balanced and need some tweaking. Here are some examples.

If you go to assassin forum you get a post saying among the melees templar>gladiator>assassin type of whining. If you go to gladiator forum you get many posts saying gladiators suck. However, if you go through enough posts to get to some detail, it's apparent that gladiators do not suck. In fact I can find some saying gladiators can out-duel 1v1 templars (w/ difficulty), sorcerers majority of the time, while losing to assassins majority of the time. Of course there are counter claims, but apparently gladiators do well against PvE with polearms (i.e. take on multiple mobs at same time aka fast lvling even w/o getting into groups) and do well in PvP with dual-sword. Most gladiator forum posts suggest not going against templars with polearms . . . they'll pwn you if you do. From this it's easy to see why there seemed to be a large percentage of gladiators playing in one of posts that was put up by eliott.

As you can see, this game is still in infancy, and people are still experimenting with how to make their class uber especially against other classes. Personally, I think it's a good sign that there is depth in strategy, and that it'll take some adjusting by the korean community. This is not to say that every class is balanced. Two exceptions seem to be rangers and spirit masters. Rangers got some love w/ last patch but I think it'll be a while before we know how that affects the dpm of rangers enough to make them viable or not. As for spirit masters, I think it'll take more than a simple patch to make them viable for 1v1 PvP. I think they'll be fine for massive PvP even in abyss (aka fortress sieges) since most of the fighting seems to be on the ground. Not in the air. As the game matures (aka chronicle 1 or 2 patch in the future like in L2), I'm sure they'll make aerial travel/combat more important, and that's when they'll probably fix aerial melee combat (probably sooner) and give spirit masters a weaker flying pet. This is just a conjecture on my part.

Anyways, just my rant.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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sorcs suck evrils
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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can you translate this? (17/12/08 patch notes) : plaync ??? :: ????
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Great read, and that's not 2 cents, that's more like a full dollar, my friend

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Thanks for the information and analysis, zorn.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Good info. Will read again. A+++

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Old 12-16-2008, 11:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Accurate analysis; it was to be expected. It doesn't change anything I'm afraid. There are too many half empty glass people with the stubbornness of an ogre out there. Sure as hell if you can't play your class right, you have to reason to say it sucks. People just have to look at themselves critically.

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Old 12-16-2008, 11:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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regarding to the rangers it seems to be unknown whether they actually got some love. It seems to have lowered their amount of attacks while jump shot, which lowers their damage significantly, besides their damage being based on random numbers (secondhand info)

As for spirit masters.. the complaint about not having any flying pets is around for months, at least 6~7 months and nothing has been done so far.. I can remember vague there would be a new spell that make an enemy fall to the ground, or at least ground them to counter the flying, but still absolutely nothing was done..

I am going to play spirit master regardless but it is a shame for these 2 classes though..
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Definitely good and helpful. Thanks.

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Old 12-17-2008, 12:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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can you translate this? (17/12/08 patch notes) : plaync ??? :: ????
LOL how cute!

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Old 12-17-2008, 12:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ran it through google translator, skipped the buffing of archers and spiritmasters. They added new enchantment stones to increase magic aim and magic resistance, FK YA.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Problem today is players feel butt-hurt because they can't own every single class with their character.
Balance means you can kill at least half of the classes while struggling against the other half.
Balance doesn't mean you can kill every single one of them with ease.

Other might say balance is a 50/50 chance to beat every class, I personally like my game with more challenge.

Some players needs to wake the **** up and put their huge ego aside for once.

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Old 12-17-2008, 04:11 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Agreed whole heartedly. There's moaning and b*tching about class balance in most every game at first. Hell, it continues on forever!

I've tried Spirit Master and Ranger, they have their perks and I can see I can enjoy them....they just need tweak. (Spirit Masters especially)
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Old 12-17-2008, 04:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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thanks for translation. but there is a little contradiction in your post. first you said the game is pretty much balanced and the people cry because they just want their class to own everyone else, then you said rangers and spiritmasters are needed to be tweaked (i agree on that).

thanks for translation still.
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