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Old 01-09-2009, 05:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hey everyone,

thx for you feedback Glad to see that you got the message I tried to proclaim...

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Are you going to be taking Elliot's articles and doing your own review on them?

Hi Evrilysis and welcome to my blog. No worries here, I will just try to bring a different view on some of the assumptions I find, foremost I try to get some more answers from actual korean players ingame.

He specifically asked not to have his translations copied without his permission.

And is your blog a counter to Elliot's?

I guess batusai707 answered this question best already^^

If not, fire away.

I also have some personal questions for you,

Sure go ahead

As I recall, you are not fluent in Korean correct?

Well to be true I am not fluent in korean, however I can read and write Hangeul, I just dont have a real vocabular yet. I learned korean Hangeul myself and with the help of my korean girlfriend, so I am at least able to communicate with other koreans and use the Aion client nearly to its full extend.

And if so, what articles do you intend to write about, seeing as you cannot translate player feedback and official announcements nor can you give full personal experience because of the language barrier?

As already mentioned in my blog, I will mostly try to enlighten the readers about the dark and the light site of the NEWS about Aion. In order to reach this goal I try my best to call upon several english speaking Korean players directly from the game and include my own experiences there (I am a level 37 ranger and playing since the kOBT - you can call me a casual gamer).

Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm going off of my assumptions.

Are the rest of your articles going to be biased like the ones you've already posted? Or are they going to take a neutral tone?

I guess this needs to be seen, but one thing I can assure you, they will never be more biased than those of Elliot
P.S. Hey t0yo, I am happy to hear that you liked my proclamation to the community ! You are not alone in remembering the good old days of our pw community ^^ But once I sold this forum, it sadly got invaded by Bots - so nothing useful there anymore

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Old 01-09-2009, 05:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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We support this endeavour. Unlike many others on this site, we do respect the opinions even if they're the opposite of what we believe in, as long as they're rooted in reason. Every new blog added just gives everyone more information and having a "counter" elliot site is simply promoting critical thinking. The only reason we started hitting back at fanboys is because of the lack of intelligence or simple logic displayed in their rants. If there's one thing we hate, it's willful ignorance.

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I really want to advice everyone of you to make your own opinion about the game before you judge about it too much without ever having played it. Its just not fair, not to the game, not to the developers and not to the community. I for one think that with Aion they did such a beautiful and detailed masterpiece which everyone of you should get the chance to try it out yourself and judge by the time you are able to. There will never be a perfect game, and even thou Aion will have its downsides, don’t be deceived by the things you encounter in the net, be patient and give it some time, you will be amazed on what you see… I can assure you - but never expect too much
We should start quoting this in every thread.

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Old 01-09-2009, 05:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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For the series: it's a small world we live in, I remember old pw.cc times as well as the time you were my Guild Master ingame xD. Glad to see you here, hope you and your wife are doing well.

Back on topic, I suppose more pov are always welcome, and I'm reallylooking forward to your next articles
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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For the series: it's a small world we live in, I remember old pw.cc times as well as the time you were my Guild Master ingame xD. Glad to see you here, hope you and your wife are doing well.

Back on topic, I suppose more pov are always welcome, and I'm reallylooking forward to your next articles
what was your name on pw.cc?
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Old 01-09-2009, 05:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If the fanboys ranted it's because the doomsayers ranted, and vice versa. It's a feedback phenomenum so we can't really put the exclusive blame on neither. Being critic isn't always being right, I'm not saying Elliot's translations are wrong (excepting percents, which 90% of the times are made up *cwutIdidthar*) but I didn't like how in his last translation, for example, he intentionaly forgot 50% of the quests, which can be seen in hellbound's site, where someone took the time to get the data by himself and the differences are abysmal (no pun intended) Then he said that rangers and spiritmasters cant do those quests cause they aren't wanted in parties...give me a break please.

LD's point is exactly what I've been thinking, he has seen some people can't think by themselves, nor take things written with a grain of salt, nor remain skeptical until they see what it really is about, LD's blog might be necessary for those and good for our community in the long term.

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Old 01-09-2009, 05:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Sounds good, I'll be reading both yours and Elliot's blog.

Best of luck to you.
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Believe it or not, my post wasn't flamebait.

I was just questioning him on how he was planning on overcoming certain difficulties, and making him aware on certain issues.

I also in no way implied that he couldn't start blogging, in fact I'm anticipating his next article.
well befor you posted you should thought about it or did more searching on LD, im not flaming you but your post was kinda attacking him, like ti was stated LD played or still is playing AION and elliot never had al elliot on translated stuff of the korean Forums LD has other ppl that play with him that can translate things to.

Liek i siad im not trying o make it sound liek im flaming you in way shape or forum it just elliot only talked about ALL the bad stuff about AION and made them sound like they make the game unplable as in LD said yes there down sides but here are alot of good stuff that AION offers.

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Old 01-09-2009, 08:54 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Nice blog LD sure i'm going to take a look on it. The western Aion community needed something like this.
You will need to fight hard to counter the influence of Elliot's blog because as all journalist know very well bad news always sells alot more than good news.

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are you going to be taking elliot's articles and doing your own review on them?

He specifically asked not to have his translations copied without his permission.

And is your blog a counter to elliot's?

If not, fire away.

I also have some personal questions for you,

as i recall, you are not fluent in korean correct?

And if so, what articles do you intend to write about, seeing as you cannot translate player feedback and official announcements nor can you give full personal experience because of the language barrier?

Go ahead and correct me if i'm wrong, i'm going off of my assumptions.

Are the rest of your articles going to be biased like the ones you've already posted? Or are they going to take a neutral tone?
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we do respect the opinions even if they're the opposite of what we believe in
Curious, do you actually believe that Aion is a mostly negative game, or did you just use this line as a general explanation?

With you I'm talking about most of RQ.
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How is a game mostly negative?

Negative what?
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How is a game mostly negative?

Negative what?
Fun/good factor.

bad 1-10 good.

Negative would be 1-4.
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Curious, do you actually believe that Aion is a mostly negative game, or did you just use this line as a general explanation?

With you I'm talking about most of RQ.
We don't think its a bad game, we just don't think its the perfect game people set it out to be. We're just advocates of free speech, were a person can give his/her opinions about the game without being chased out and flamed by others. These said people who complain when people flame them yet consider their posts to be completely flame-less and amazing.

I just want to know the realistic side of Aion, the good and the bad. No less no more
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How is a game mostly negative?

Negative what?
erm like i siad Elliot only talked about whats wrong with AIOn and made it sound 100% worst then it really was, not saying everything was really that bad but a few items he spoke about wasnt that bad. So like before if you go back and read 98% of elliots post there nothing good about AION just whats wrong with it even tho the game been only for a few months.

Not saying Elliots post wasnt nice and all just some ppl saw him only to bash on a game that he never played and got all his info mostly from the forums that some ppl just whine about everything that may not be as bad they make it out to be.

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We don't think its a bad game, we just don't think its the perfect game people set it out to be. We're just advocates of free speech, were a person can give his/her opinions about the game without being chased out and flamed by others. These said people who complain when people flame them yet consider their posts to be completely flame-less and amazing.

I just want to know the realistic side of Aion, the good and the bad. No less no more
It was the "even if they're the opposite of what we believe in" part that struck me, since the original thread was about the positive sides of Aion, more or less, and he mentioned what I just quoted, so I was wondering if he felt that Aion was in average a bad game. I gather from your response that he was talking in general.
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