Pay To Play? or not?

[Trevyc]

Making a game P2P eliminates a large group of people that join games solely to annoy others. It eliminates the people that create 10 accounts in one day. It gets rid of a lot of bad things that you as a user wish not to see.

I'll show ye some examples, 1 for P2P and 1 without.

Originally Posted by Trevyc

No P2P: I am someone that thinks P2P is ridiculous and a waste of my money. I am someone that gets a thrill each and every time someone tells me off or tells me I'm going to be banned. WHOOPTY FREAKING DOOO! If I get banned, I'll just create another account under another name that isn't mine. I'll get back on JUST to annoy that person.

Better yet, instead of annoying someone, I'll keep to myself. I'll create a mole account, 4 bot accounts, a power leveling account and some others if I think of it.

Now see? From that perspective, someone with the IQ of 2 is in their glory and the person that actually wants to play the game and not cheat or annoy people are being set aside.

Originally Posted by Trevyc

P2P: I am the same person as above. I hate P2P.. its not worth my time. I would be spending money just to risk losing it all by being banned. If I end up working hard to get everything (through bots mind you) and then I get caught, what good would my money be? I'll go somewhere else where I can spend no money to have fun.

As a gamer that P2Ps myself, I prefer P2P because it does exactly what I showed in the P2P example; it weeds out the people that are there simply for immature pleasures.

Now, I know not every person that can't P2P is like the person I showed above, but a lot are. And yeah, I feel bad for those people that want to play but can't because they can't afford it, but thats life. $15 a month is not bad. Its not like its going to make you or break you.

I know because when I was 16, I didn't have a job. My mom couldn't pay for my online gaming. So I did the next best thing: I did outside jobs for other people. WHAM! In one job I had the first month's bill covered.

Now is this possible for everyone? No, but its a start. There are ways around not being able to pay.

[zalvador]

p2p.. If it's free, alot of inmature ppl who will join the game just to ruin it. I'll say p2p, so only the serious ppl will play the game, the one's who want something out of the game. And not for griefing becuase they just bought a game and play whenever they want.

I know it wont leave every inmature person out of the game, but its a start.

[Kyouraku]

Originally Posted by zalvador

p2p.. If it's free, alot of inmature ppl who will join the game just to ruin it. I'll say p2p, so only the serious ppl will play the game, the one's who want something out of the game. And not for griefing becuase they just bought a game and play whenever they want.

I know it wont leave every inmature person out of the game, but its a start.

I completley agree, if Aion was F2P i would laugh and never give this game a second thought... i cant stand the maturity of the majority of people that play F2P games and the amount of cheating that goes on. Not only that but customer service is notoriously bad on F2P games as they are making little to no money because maybe 10% of the population actually pays for various advantages that the game offers if you are to subscribe to it.
I realise that this (the maturity thing) happens in P2P games too i personally feel that WoW suffers from this i found most of the people i came across outside the circle of people i knew from previous games to be really annoying lol, but perhaps its me who is the real problem

[Tranquility]

Originally Posted by Ipmia

personnally i d like to see visa only games, but i realize that would be asking for too much, and in place of dev's i wouldnt want to eliminate a big "younger" market from the equation

But how about Mastercard user ??? :P seriously though i completely agree and i would like too see that too.

But then again if youre an adult and make your own money you gotta ask yourself if its worth it ,essentially a P2P game will cost 4-5times as mutch.
Yes it has more content than a regular game but i think many feel that they arent getting their moneys worth if they dont have time to play more than 10h a week.

[PZeplin]

A) Big, consistent worlds needs a lot of big servers. Those cost a buttload of cash.
B) If you want regular updates (say, every 2-3 months, with new instances, balancing, gear, etc), and not just a new expansion pack you'll have to buy every 9 months, you'll have to pay. Those also cost money.

P2P is just better IMO. It gives more profit to the game developer, which means they can create more things for the game.

As the saying goes:

You get what you pay for.

[Tolarius]

if your that worried about not being able to play the game, go ask mommy and daddy, or get a job, its that simple. Dont be lazy.

[uuv]

I don't want this game to be F2P, but I very much hope, that there will be gamecards, or something else you can buy without a credit card. I only have Visa Electron, and you cant pay online with that. I'm waiting this game very eagerly, and I'm gonna suicide if I can't play this game due to some stupid credit-card :|

[Aseenus]

Originally Posted by Tobias Nightbringer

If Aion was free, I'd need a new pair of boxers.

I think the closest thing we got to a free MMORPG is Guild Wars...but I hardly consider that an actual MMORPG.

Expect the pay-to-play price to be $14.99 like the others. Though, I am really hoping it'll be cheaper like $9.99 like it used to be ;_;

oh thats where ur wrong my friend :P

guild wars 2 is gonna be a real mmo and its gonna cost $0 a month

[Tobias Nightbringer]

<thumbs down> RuneScape is $0 a month...and look how glorious that MMORPG is >.>

If Guild Wars 2 is supposedly going to be an actual MMORPG unlike Guild Wars, but if it is free...I highly doubt it'll be up to the standards of WoW, Aion, or even Lineage II. Though, I guess it won't hurt to check it out XD

[Tranquility]

Lol yeah like its hard to beat a game that barly has PS2 grafic ,anywho id like it to be P2P but i rather not see it being 15bucks a month.

Just my 2 cents

[skimike]

I'd rather pay a monthly fee so as to avoid having Toyota Prius ads plastered all over the Tower of Eternity.

[Tobias Nightbringer]

Lmao, you're my hero Skimike. As for everyone not wanting to pay THAT much a month, I really hate to say it (and I mean REALLY hate to. I'd rather kick a baby instead of saying it) but I'm almost positive it will be 15 dollars a month. CoH and Lineage II are both 15 dollars, correct? It MIGHT be a good idea to go down to 10 dollars like it used to be all those years back, at least marketing/competition wise, but I don't see that happening. I just hope I am dead wrong in this opinion.

[Ipmia]

15 monthe for a good online game is very well worth it anyways.

[Tranquility]

As it is rumoured this game will be the "WoW killer" ,if they want to suceed in that they need a better game and lower fees.
If they dont then i highly doubt it will take big portion of the WoW community.

[osric]

WoW is a good game, but it's getting dated. there are a lot of people that play online games that get bored after a year or two and want something new. i am guilty of that, a year and a half of WoW and even though i loved the game, i got bored. not sure if Aion will be a WoW killer or whatever, but if it proves to be as good as we all think, it will definitely draw a good audience, not a few of which will come from WoW, lineage 2, guild wars, etc.