Bots and Gold sellers

[Livvy]

Your a part of "everyone" so stop talking about that others start and you will follow. Just die. Be so nice. Die not hard but fast and silenty.

This is slightly over the top. I think this thread might have use if we sticked to the real issue at hand : not the fact folks are buying gold , but rather why they are doing it in the first place . Let's face it : there's complete accounts of WoW for sale for 1000+US$ , why on earth would anyone spend that amount of real cash for a game ?


That's the very essence of the issue . If it's "just a game " noone in their right mind would fork over real cash to "get there quicker " . No, the reason folks are willing to pay for that gold signifies it's more than a game for them at least.

[ei8th]

Originally Posted by Livvy

That's the very essence of the issue . If it's "just a game " noone in their right mind would fork over real cash to "get there quicker " . No, the reason folks are willing to pay for that gold signifies it's more than a game for them at least.

Mainly because they can afford it I assume. My other guess would be appreciation and social kudos they would not be able to get otherwise (in real life or in game).

Or maybe they are just plain "insert game here"-crazy and would also spend 100 quid on a roll of toilet paper signed by, say, a random Blizzard employee. And I would not want to bet that there isn't a person that would actually do that.

[Calindor]

I play a game 20+ hours a week, I play it with all my friends...throwing another $50 at the game which will bring me more joy/benefit in the game isnt a big deal...I dont know maybe you're all broke, im a student, pay for rent and my car and another $50 or so for a game I'm putting most of my spare time into isnt a big deal, and I dont think it makes it any more or less serious.


and stop calling me a "looser" and idiot. Youre the one getting your panties in knot and *female reproductive organ ( filter)* full of sand over this stupid thread and topic about a video game...so you are the loser. Please also never call someone an idiot when your posts are full of grammar mistakes. Mine are quite the opposite of perfect, I dont put any effort into my posts, or judge anyone on theirs, however I'm not the one calling people an idiot and loser because they have a different view or opinion.




and for the sake of argument, can someone (2aimless or endrance) tell me how me refusing to RMT would get rid of the problem. Unless the community miraculously comes out with a real protest/stand, nothing is going to happen...and if the community was like that, there wouldnt be a problem in the first place. I already said I dont like it, but if its there i will take the advantage. I refuse to sit by and protest like some martyr when other people are getting ahead when I think its worth it.

[2aimless]

well actually i dont put any effort in my posts to and im sorry for making mistakes or anything but english is the 4th language i learned/ or still learning and only via forums and onlinegames...

And actually its no matter of money why i refuse rmt... i would pay 50bucks per month for sure if i could get a clean botting and rmt free aion.

and i never said that we actually totally get rid of the problem but everyone who refuses to rmt makes a difference! Your defending your oppinion but when you install the game and register your account youre betraying yourself by "accepting the rules and guidelines". The only good thing i learned about you is that you wont play on the server where i will.

[Glacius]

Originally Posted by Calindor

and for the sake of argument, can someone (2aimless or endrance) tell me how me refusing to RMT would get rid of the problem. Unless the community miraculously comes out with a real protest/stand, nothing is going to happen...and if the community was like that, there wouldnt be a problem in the first place.

That is a pretty sad argument. Luckily the majority of people don't feel that way. Otherwise the world would be a miserable place to live.

[Birdman]

I have to agree with Calindor. The people RMTing are the people who are going to be at the top, I plan to be one of those people.

What I do hope is that Aion does something to combat RMTing so I don't have to do it in the first place.

[SoraNashimi]

Uhh just wondering but whats an RMT...what do the letters stand for?

[Zinrae]

Originally Posted by SoraNashimi

Uhh just wondering but whats an RMT...what do the letters stand for?

It stands for Real Money Trading.

[Dez]

Originally Posted by Calindor

and for the sake of argument, can someone (2aimless or endrance) tell me how me refusing to RMT would get rid of the problem. Unless the community miraculously comes out with a real protest/stand, nothing is going to happen...and if the community was like that, there wouldnt be a problem in the first place. I already said I dont like it, but if its there i will take the advantage. I refuse to sit by and protest like some martyr when other people are getting ahead when I think its worth it.

So I didn't really want to get into this whole discussion, but I have to pop inn here. The thing is, if everyone thinks like this; "everyone else does it, why shouldn't I?" nothing will ever change, because ppl on that line of thought are the reason it happens in the first place. Let's say there were 1 mill people RTM'ing in Aion, and they all think like that, what if every single one of them didn't think like that, and thought "I won't do this it's bad", would there then be any RTM? Nah.

It's like if you litter in the street, you go "there's already so much waste around, this doesn't make a difference". Well if everyone kept their waste there wouldn't be any around in the first place, but everyone thinks "my act doesn't matter".. so everyone ends up doing it, be it RTM'ing or littering.

Yes if the community was like that there wouldn't be a problem in the first place, well how can the community ever be like that if everyone thinks like you? you're part of the community aren't you? everyone thinks "others don't care why should I care?" then everyone ends up not caring. That "everybody else does so" line of thought really doesn't cut it.

And you're saying you don't like it, but you'll still take the advantage if it is there? then you don't dislike it. If you disliked it you wouldn't do it, act as a better example. Just because people murder, steal and act greedy, doesn't mean everyone should do it, all the nice ppl in the world act as a better example, and that does make a difference even if you don't get rid of the bad ppl.

[HunterX]

The internetz is serious business.

[Odessa]

Originally Posted by HunterX

The internetz is serious business.

Apparently so serious that people have to use real money to buy virtual currency! It's like buying Monopoly money.

If RMT is required to be on top in Aion, then to hell with being on top.

[Dez]

It doesn't matter to me to be on the top, if I go for the top I do it with dignity, determination and effort.

[Livvy]

It's like if you litter in the street, you go "there's already so much waste around, this doesn't make a difference". Well if everyone kept their waste there wouldn't be any around in the first place, but everyone thinks "my act doesn't matter".. so everyone ends up doing it, be it RTM'ing or littering.

Yes if the community was like that there wouldn't be a problem in the first place, well how can the community ever be like that if everyone thinks like you? you're part of the community aren't you? everyone thinks "others don't care why should I care?" then everyone ends up not caring. That "everybody else does so" line of thought really doesn't cut it.

And you're saying you don't like it, but you'll still take the advantage if it is there? then you don't dislike it. If you disliked it you wouldn't do it, act as a better example. Just because people murder, steal and act greedy, doesn't mean everyone should do it, all the nice ppl in the world act as a better example, and that does make a difference even if you don't get rid of the bad ppl.

and

If RMT is required to be on top in Aion, then to hell with being on top.

sum it up pretty nicely . I basically don't like WoW anymore because it practically requires RMT now . You can obviously get mounts etc. by doing daily quests until green in the face . But the whole point of gaming is to unwind , don't feel like you have to do something etc. doing the same thing over and over isn't fun at all.

But : if Aion is like WoW where you have to do the same thing over and over to get some item ( due to incredibly low droprate or the way loot is distributed in party or raid ) I will go without that particualr item . I saw in a Q&A some items might be craftable as well - in addition to being rare drops - which would be a very wise decision on NCsoft's part .

[Calindor]

on the contrary i found WoW to be the game where RMTing is required the least (maybe not buying accounts/name changes)..theres not much gold will do for you in WoW.

and I'm sorry I dont share your views. If there is a lot of RMTing in Aion, nothing is going to change if I do not do it myself...and if anything, my experience in MMO's has taught me that.

I would also pay $50 a month to have a perfectly legit Aion.

[Glacius]

Originally Posted by Calindor

on the contrary i found WoW to be the game where RMTing is required the least (maybe not buying accounts/name changes)..theres not much gold will do for you in WoW.

Obviously you haven't participated in WoW endgame. Regardless, there is no need to buy Gold in WoW because it is fairly easy to make if you put some time into it and the economy isn't blown to **** due to the presence of soul bound items (for simplicity sake, obviously other factors as well).