Heavy grinding in order to Level? - Page 3

Raivyn · 07-05-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MajDogmeat

What would the game be if you could just be max lvl in 2 weeks.....

I know this was rhetorical but it would be WoW.

And we don't want that.

Gicco · 07-05-2009, 06:15 PM

Get groups to grind with. Get vent to listen to something while you grind. Get people who are fun to be with.

Simple.

If you hate to grind, Aion isn't for you. Its a Korean MMO, what do you really expect? EasyWoWmode?

Pegaseus · 07-05-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gicco

Get groups to grind with. Get vent to listen to something while you grind. Get people who are fun to be with.

Simple.

If you hate to grind, Aion isn't for you. Its a Korean MMO, what do you really expect? EasyWoWmode?

Thanks, I did indeed hoped for a non-grind leveling process, not as easy as WoW, give me tons of challenging quests/group quests to level and I'll gladly do it, but grinding in itself just isn't for me =(

Sarielle · 07-05-2009, 06:49 PM

THEY HAVE ADDED A TON OF QUESTS IN THE VERSION WE ARE GOING TO BE RELEASING WITH.

People keep bringing up C-Aion, and they're still playing on a very old version. It's a Korean MMO, but they've stated all along they made it to appeal to a Western audience as well. People like to assume "asian grindfest" just by looking at its origins.

You can tell they added titles for post count. So many people being "helpful" with misinformation.

Phantasy · 07-05-2009, 06:53 PM

Nothing to worry about. This game has enough quests to keep you occupied for quite some time. Also, beleive me, Ive played sro for several years and its is one of the lamest mmo's of all time. Dont even compare the two games because sro is an afk game. This game is going to require you to actaully play. Take my advice, get the game. You'll be happy in the end.

renasci · 07-05-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Freelancer604

I hope this will be changed drastically for the NA/EU release but in the CN server (KOR 1.0)....

After level 22, leveling slows to a crawl, quests hold your hand for a bout 25% of he way, the rest you have to grind on your own. About 20-25 mobs of equal level get you one bar of exp. At level 25 i think leveling lowed to a pace of 30 lev 26 mobs per bar.

Kind of goes up exponentially after that...

oh my.. wall o text..

My first 75 (max lvl) in FFXI took me 2 and a 1/2 -years- You have no room for complaint.

...I'll quit Aion very quickly if I can quest myself to max in a few weeks time, first char through. Levels should be earned.

lilbuddhaman · 07-05-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renasci

My first 75 (max lvl) in FFXI took me 2 and a 1/2 -years- You have no room for complaint.

...I'll quit Aion very quickly if I can quest myself to max in a few weeks time, first char through. Levels should be earned.

Well...2.5 years to cap a player in FFXI isn't the norm...assuming you are "active". What was your actual "/played" to reach that ? ( how much of it was afk with a fishing bot /wink /wink )?

Judging from the content I've seen, I'd wager to say FFXI and Aion are equal in time to cap ( but with FFXI having the sub-class mechanic adding a bit more time )

68Whiskey ACM · 07-05-2009, 08:27 PM

As long as it isn't a second job - it should be enjoyable. Dark Age of Camelot grinding in the beginning was...horrid. When they helped fix it with overpowered expansions later on that made it easier.

...I've never tried L2 or FFXI though.

Unless you count the Jedi grind in Galaxies.

So far Aion has been awesome.

beonka · 07-05-2009, 08:35 PM

Go into a game with an open mind.

If you don't enjoy the game (because of past experiences... or whatever) Don't play. <3
I'm sure the community will be happier for it.

toptier · 07-05-2009, 08:41 PM

Aion is definitely a harder game than WoW and takes longer to level. Whether the grinding (and there is some "grinding") is heavy or not depends on each playing experience and preference. In any case, I think NCSoft was intelligent in choosing to make Aion harder than WoW, but still a relatively easy game - certainly catering to a slightly different segment of the MMO market.

Given that WoW was the clone of all clones - I'm relieved that Aion isn't exactly a WoW clone.

Freelancer604 · 07-05-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renasci

My first 75 (max lvl) in FFXI took me 2 and a 1/2 -years- You have no room for complaint.

...I'll quit Aion very quickly if I can quest myself to max in a few weeks time, first char through. Levels should be earned.

Well I do, because its a pvp heavy game, and people should be spending their time ingame getting better at pvp, and not have to spend hundreds, or in the case of FFXI, thousands of hours grinding pve.

I think the game should be compared to games like guildwars, where the endgame is similarly pvp oriented... and not the L2 and FFXI grind fests.

Spending months grinding, then feeling the slight sensation of accomplishment is a thing of the past on the western market. Everyone had their fill of that primitive game philosophy at the turn of the century, with games like diablo 2.

If you really want a game to sell well nowadays, you need to adjust your game so that the leveling process is less like labor, and more like a smooth, easy set of training wheels to ease the player into deep, hard-to-master game mechanics. Its always more fun when adept players distinguish themselves from new players through skill as much as possible, and as little from "time spent grinding" as possible. It helps people stay subbed longer, and entices more players to join.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegaseus

Thanks for the honesty

YW

Gyli · 07-05-2009, 09:23 PM

I've been playing FFXI since it's release years ago and still play until Aion's official releae since I'm not bothering to use my beta key from preorder to participate. You don't spend thousands of hours grinding in FFXI to obtain max level that's just exaggerating it.

Pegaseus · 07-05-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by renasci

My first 75 (max lvl) in FFXI took me 2 and a 1/2 -years- You have no room for complaint.

...I'll quit Aion very quickly if I can quest myself to max in a few weeks time, first char through. Levels should be earned.

I guess it's not for me.

I don't have the will nor the time to spend endless hours grinding mobs to enjoy higher level PvP (My main focus on the game.) If I have to suffer through brainless killing for months or over a year, I'd personally rather spend my time/money where I can get more direct PvP....just have to find what >_>

Rettig · 07-05-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegaseus

I guess it's not for me.

I don't have the will nor the time to spend endless hours grinding mobs to enjoy higher level PvP (My main focus on the game.) If I have to suffer through brainless killing for months or over a year, I'd personally rather spend my time/money where I can get more direct PvP....just have to find what >_>

You'll get to 50 in a month, 2 if your slow.

Sprawl · 07-05-2009, 10:11 PM

I made it to about 11 without needing to grind. Then on until 20 I had to grind at least 1/2 of the level in addition to doing the quests in the area. It is a decent balance tbh, but I'm scared if it gets worse. I can't only stand so much mindless kill kill kill.

07-05-2009, 06:15 PM	#32 (permalink)
Gicco Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: My office Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Giccobie Legion: Versus Race: Asmodians Server: Gorgos	Get groups to grind with. Get vent to listen to something while you grind. Get people who are fun to be with. Simple. If you hate to grind, Aion isn't for you. Its a Korean MMO, what do you really expect? EasyWoWmode? __________________ Go QQ elsewhere Carebear.

07-05-2009, 06:49 PM	#34 (permalink)
Sarielle Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Sarielle Class: Chanter Race: Elyos	THEY HAVE ADDED A TON OF QUESTS IN THE VERSION WE ARE GOING TO BE RELEASING WITH. People keep bringing up C-Aion, and they're still playing on a very old version. It's a Korean MMO, but they've stated all along they made it to appeal to a Western audience as well. People like to assume "asian grindfest" just by looking at its origins. You can tell they added titles for post count. So many people being "helpful" with misinformation. __________________

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toptier Officer Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sydney Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Asmodians	Aion is definitely a harder game than WoW and takes longer to level. Whether the grinding (and there is some "grinding") is heavy or not depends on each playing experience and preference. In any case, I think NCSoft was intelligent in choosing to make Aion harder than WoW, but still a relatively easy game - certainly catering to a slightly different segment of the MMO market. Given that WoW was the clone of all clones - I'm relieved that Aion isn't exactly a WoW clone. Last edited by toptier; 07-05-2009 at 08:44 PM..

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Gyli Star Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ateria Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Character: Gyli Class: Cleric Race: Asmodians	I've been playing FFXI since it's release years ago and still play until Aion's official releae since I'm not bothering to use my beta key from preorder to participate. You don't spend thousands of hours grinding in FFXI to obtain max level that's just exaggerating it. __________________ Final Fantasy XIV Core - Final Fantasy XIV Fansite FFXIVCore.com on Twitter FFXIVCore.com on Facebook

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07-05-2009, 06:53 PM	#35 (permalink)
Phantasy Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Phantasy Class: Sorcerer Legion: Elyos Race: Elyos	Nothing to worry about. This game has enough quests to keep you occupied for quite some time. Also, beleive me, Ive played sro for several years and its is one of the lamest mmo's of all time. Dont even compare the two games because sro is an afk game. This game is going to require you to actaully play. Take my advice, get the game. You'll be happy in the end.

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beonka Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: B.C. Canada Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Beonka Class: Cleric Race: Undecided	Go into a game with an open mind. If you don't enjoy the game (because of past experiences... or whatever) Don't play. <3 I'm sure the community will be happier for it.

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Sprawl Soldier Join Date: Jul 2009 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Asmodians	I made it to about 11 without needing to grind. Then on until 20 I had to grind at least 1/2 of the level in addition to doing the quests in the area. It is a decent balance tbh, but I'm scared if it gets worse. I can't only stand so much mindless kill kill kill.

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