Go Back   AionSource.com > Aion Gameplay > Aion Discussion
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Notices

Aion Discussion Is it about Aion? It probably goes in here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-05-2009, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
Daeva
 
Pegaseus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Class: Ranger
Race: Elyos

Heavy grinding in order to Level?

Hey, I've played 2 MMO before this one, SilkRoadOnline - a heavy grinding game based on very few quests. And WoW in which you are surounded by hundreds of quests which you can pick from to level.

I looked at this website and it scared me to death:
Aion too hardcore or too soft? You decide Read What They Read, See What I See

Apparently from what this guy i saying, the grinding - to quest is very undesirable. I had pre-ordered the Aion Collector's edition and have been playing the betas. I'd like to know if that chart is somewhat correct. Otherwise I might as well take my money else-where

While this is a great factor..
"He is only considering the rewards, while doing the quests you obtain XP out of mobs. Without counting the abyss and that, he?s obviously missing a lot of XP. He?s probably missing the secret quests also (those that fall from mobs or that you obtain after exploring, like the books one in pandemonium). That being said, there are certain levels which require to grind indeed, but it didn?t seem as bad as those charts state for me."

this is what disturbs me:
"Yeah, I?ve grinded the same mobs and done the same q over and over again and am about to ding 27. Hopefully more unlocks at 27 because it?s becoming quite boring"

"even though the chart is incorrect, the old ?you can lvl up only by questing? statement is still false"

Can anyone confirm/deny?
Pegaseus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 03:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
Star Officer
 
Telal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts

Character: Telal
Class: Templar
Legion: Stigmata
Race: Asmodians
Server: Lumiel

I wish people would search, the game in the NA/EU pre-view is vastly different than what will launch in 1.5. In 1.5 they have added more quests, and increated the rewards from the quest.

Grinding shouldn't be as huge of an issue as people who are apparently afraid to play the game think it is going to be.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aion Bunny
There is no such thing as a perfect game. If you make a game idiot proof, someone will just make a better idiot
Telal is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
Officer
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Character: Namdrib
Class: Gladiator
Race: Elyos
Server: Siel

well I hardly had to grind 1-20, but I did hear that at 25, it is RECOMMENDED that you grind abyss points? not really sure but that is just what I heard
Pajak is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
Officer
 
2San's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Dutchland
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Class: Sorcerer
Race: Elyos
Server: Zikel

Honestly it so sad how wrong people are, bringing up outdated charts and outdated articels. Defending themselves by saying SM's and rangers don't get parties and thus the outdated info still applies. They do there are clans and all of that. It's far from hardcore, but it's also harder then casual. I think Aion is the first to hit a good middle ground. Might even be too soft for my taste, but we'll see.

It's sad to see people need to hit on a game that isn't even out yet, just because they have no life purpose. >_>
2San is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
Great General
 
Chob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Oahu
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts

Class: Sorcerer
Legion: Rice
Race: Elyos

Yes it's grindy hills

__________________
L2 fanboi
Chob is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
Officer
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts

Character: Simonzi
Class: Chanter
Legion: Floopty Doos
Race: Asmodians
Server: Azphel

Dude, the first thing it says on that page, in bold red text is "This is a very old translation and is most likely outdated. Stop linking it as if its the current numbers"
Simonzi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Soldier
 
Tru Smiles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: England, UK
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Character: Melchiah
Class: Chanter
Race: Asmodians
Server: Spatalos

I haven't gotten past level 12 yet, but so far, I've gotten all my exp from quests. Not had to grind a single time. If 1.5 is gonna be easier, then well, that'll cut down time even more!
Tru Smiles is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
General
 
Baleur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sweden
Thanks: 11
Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts

Character: Bethalsenann
Class: Ranger
Legion: DooM
Race: Asmodians
Server: Spatalos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pegaseus View Post
Hey, I've played 2 MMO before this one, SilkRoadOnline - a heavy grinding game based on very few quests. And WoW in which you are surounded by hundreds of quests which you can pick from to level.
Walloftext.
World of Warcraft is the easiest MMO on the planet. Okay? Because another mmo doesnt have as many quests as WoW does NOT make it into a grind. Go try Lineage 2 or pretty much ANY other mmo for a month.
Comparing Aion to WoW is like comparing a normal paced mmo to a fast paced hand-holding tuned-to-5-year-olds mmo..

Now, i enjoyed WoW myself for 6 months or so. It has its moments. But you really cant compare it to any other mmo because of how utterly easy it is. There are guides on the net on how to reach lvl 80 in less than a week............. This is without cheating, without macroing, just normal gameplay.
So again, because a game takes longer to "finish" than WoW does not make it a grinder. Lineage 2 is a grinder. EVE Online is a grinder. Aion is one of the few normal paced mmo's to come out lately, and im damn happy with its balance of quests vs mob-killin.

It's sort of like a guy that only played Wii Sports, as his only experience with sports games, then goes on to play something like FIFA 09 or Top Spin 3 and complains that its too hard. Well dude, you just got started with the wrong type of game in the genre, the absolutely easiest one to mess with your perception of what's "normal" :P

__________________

Sarcasm was first recorded in English in "The Shepheardes Calender" in 1579.
You've had 400 years to get familiar with it.. But better late than never I guess.

Last edited by Baleur; 07-05-2009 at 04:17 PM..
Baleur is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
General
 
solitear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Miami,FL
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

Class: Cleric
Race: Elyos
Server: Zikel

1.5 be less of a grind from what i hear due to more quests being added in.
solitear is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
Curse.com
 
Netcurse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Francisco
Thanks: 7
Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts

Character: Net
Class: Cleric
Legion: Curse
Race: Asmodians
Server: Siel

1.1 1.2 and 1.5 are adding lots of quests and also increasing the XP of normal quests. Right now it's just faster to grind outside the mission quests.
Netcurse is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
Lieutenant
 
Elumine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts

Character: Soul
Class: Ranger
Legion: Bloodlust
Race: Asmodians
Server: Marchutan

I'm a MapleStory veteran. I think the grinding involved in Aion is just fine, although it is a bit irritating to have to sit down and regen HP/MP, and click to target a mob instead of super potion chugging and hitting whatever the closest mob in front of you is.

__________________
Elumine is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
Great General
 
Chob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Oahu
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts

Class: Sorcerer
Legion: Rice
Race: Elyos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elumine View Post
I'm a MapleStory veteran. I think the grinding involved in Aion is just fine, although it is a bit irritating to have to sit down and regen HP/MP, and click to target a mob instead of super potion chugging and hitting whatever the closest mob in front of you is.
You can chain monsters with mp potions. And you get more money than you spent in potions

__________________
L2 fanboi
Chob is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
General
 
Baleur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Sweden
Thanks: 11
Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts

Character: Bethalsenann
Class: Ranger
Legion: DooM
Race: Asmodians
Server: Spatalos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elumine View Post
I'm a MapleStory veteran. I think the grinding involved in Aion is just fine, although it is a bit irritating to have to sit down and regen HP/MP, and click to target a mob instead of super potion chugging and hitting whatever the closest mob in front of you is.
If you can stand the endless kiting, play a Ranger. Wont ever have to sit down to rest, since you rarely get hit.
Heck most times i didnt even get hit once, if the mob gets close just use the "free-Dodge" skill and jump over him, shooting as you run forwards away.

__________________

Sarcasm was first recorded in English in "The Shepheardes Calender" in 1579.
You've had 400 years to get familiar with it.. But better late than never I guess.
Baleur is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
Daeva
 
Pegaseus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Class: Ranger
Race: Elyos

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baleur View Post
Walloftext.
World of Warcraft is the easiest MMO on the planet. Okay? Because another mmo doesnt have as many quests as WoW does NOT make it into a grind. Go try Lineage 2 or pretty much ANY other mmo for a month.
Comparing Aion to WoW is like comparing a normal paced mmo to a fast paced hand-holding tuned-to-5-year-olds mmo..

Now, i enjoyed WoW myself for 6 months or so. It has its moments. But you really cant compare it to any other mmo because of how utterly easy it is. There are guides on the net on how to reach lvl 80 in less than a week............. This is without cheating, without macroing, just normal gameplay.
So again, because a game takes longer to "finish" than WoW does not make it a grinder. Lineage 2 is a grinder. EVE Online is a grinder. Aion is one of the few normal paced mmo's to come out lately, and im damn happy with its balance of quests vs mob-killin.

It's sort of like a guy that only played Wii Sports, as his only experience with sports games, then goes on to play something like FIFA 09 or Top Spin 3 and complains that its too hard. Well dude, you just got started with the wrong type of game in the genre, the absolutely easiest one to mess with your perception of what's "normal" :P
I understand what you are saying, but how "hard" the game may be isn't my concern, the concern is will I have to set my mind into bot-like mode and just brainlessly kill mobs repeatedly until I get enough xp? I just feel like i'd be going back into SRO (Easy to grind, still insanely boring grinding). I was only referring to WoW because it sends you various places to do small tasks....There is no mindless grinding every mob you see unless you choose to do so.
Pegaseus is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 04:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
General
 
solitear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Miami,FL
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts

Class: Cleric
Race: Elyos
Server: Zikel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elumine View Post
I'm a MapleStory veteran. I think the grinding involved in Aion is just fine, although it is a bit irritating to have to sit down and regen HP/MP, and click to target a mob instead of super potion chugging and hitting whatever the closest mob in front of you is.


Stop reading after Maplestory......... Never made it past the damn login screen horrbile game from what i hear full of pedobears =o....

Pot chugging yea put that in aion and imagine pvp how damn annoying that be
solitear is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump