A lesson on lore

[xr0yc3x]

Ok, as some of you might've noticed, a lot of threads are turning into a flame war where one side is saying, "Asmodians are evil, they killed the balaur to start the Epic Cataclysm! All Elyos want is peace! We're so good! Like angels!" I'm not here to tell you that's ... 'wrong' but rather to shed some light on this a little bit so you can make educated comments instead of stereotypical ones. I'll use quotes from both sides of the story of Aion to explain.

First I want to say that both sides, Asmodian and Elyos, are bad, but neither of them are evil. They're both humans except one is disfigured and angry.

After the Epic Cataclysm we were thrust into darkness and the unknown, where we had no other choice than to adapt and to survive. Each and every day our world taught us something new, opening our eyes to new possibilities and giving us the unwavering strength to rebuild our lives once again.

They're not disfigured because they're monsters, it's because they got screwed over by an Empyrean Lord's decision, Israphel, to invite the balaur inside their tower which was protected by a magic bubble to keep everyone safe.

Now here's a quote that gave everyone and their mother the wrong idea.

As a mark of respect to the five Dragon Lords, the Aetheric Field around the tower was lowered, and they were invited inside this colossal structure for the negotiations. A lifetime passed in the space of a few minutes. I looked into the eyes of my legionaries, and saw the mistrust and anger that our convictions had been so weak as to let these beasts, which would have us kneel before them even now, treat with us. I turned to my most trusted centurion, and went to speak with him, when, as quick as a click of a finger, everything changed. There was shouting, confusion, a rout. One of the Balaur had fallen, and Lord Asphel was standing ready to fight, his eyes blazing.

About that last part; where in the world does it say he killed one of the Balaur? do you guys see it? That was quoted from the Asmodian book. Now let's look at what the Elyos say about this event.

Then, in a moment's breath, it happened.

We still speak of the events that followed that day, of the sudden shouts of panic, of the sickening certainty that gripped us all: the warmongers would have their way, even if they had to sacrifice all of Atreia to achieve it. We saw Asphel move swiftly and suddenly, and the Dragon Lord Vitra collapse. The Balaur did not waste time with words. In an instant, there was carnage and chaos.

I'm still looking for the part where Asphel (Asmodian leader) killed the Balaur. He could have done it, but there is simply not enough evidence. To be more reasonable, consider this: The Balaur planned all along to destroy the tower. They setup a plan to kill their fellow dragon lord Vitra in order to cause a commotion and make a break for the tower. Asphel was ready for battle as soon as they entered their home. He watched them closely and noticed one of the Balaur drawing a weapon to kill Vitra (this is where you see Asphel move swiftly across the floor).

Since some of you don't understand what i said above this, I'm saying one of the Balaur that was invited into the tower KILLED their OWN Dragon Lord in order to cause a commotion. All of the Balaur's infantry were waiting outside and when the Lord was killed **** hit the fan, no one knew what to do and the magic bubble was down.

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To provide proof for my idea of the balaur killing their own dragon lord, I'll show you this picture biography taken from a wiki site:



Do you see it? "When the Balaur betrayed the agreement and instead launched an attack"

Does everyone understand now? neither side did anything, they just came up with stories to bash the other side and blame them for the cataclysm when it was indeed the balaur all along. Now, it WAS the two lords, Israphel and Siel, that are at fault. They are the ones who wanted to go through with this peace treaty, however the Elyos followers only agreed. The Elyos as a race are fine, they didn't do anything. When the Asmodians confonted the Elyos in the Abyss, they didn't curse them, they told them to curse their lords... because after all it WAS their fault, not the Elyos. It was only the two dead lords that messed up but sacrificed themselves to save us all.

My thoughts are, just as Israphel and his followers wanted peace, the other half of the humans did not. This could very well be the same case with the Balaur where Lord Vitra wanted peace but the others didn't and planned to kill him once they entered the tower as Vitra could potentially stop their attack or they simply wanted him dead for his weakness. Also, the picture biography points to only one thing and that is the balaur betraying the agreement. if Asphel had actually killed the Balaur, it would say under Asphels biography that HE betrayed the peace agreement instead of the Balaur.

Now we're fighting over something that wasn't either sides fault. Isn't this game just awesome?
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But, it's up to your imagination. They made the lore this way for a reason and i personally think it's a smart way to do it. My thoughts are basically, Asphel wasn't that stupid to kill one of the lords while the magic bubble was down, that would be down right stupid. He would have to be completely brain AFK to pull off a move like that. You also have to take into consideration that the Balaur have been slaughtering the humans for years not to mention every other animal that lived amongst them. They would watch as the Balaur swept away their women and children and made a vow to avenge them, hence the saying, "Blood for blood!"

The Empyrean Lord, Israphel made a dire mistake by inviting the Balaur inside while their intentions had nothing to do with peace. This is why in certain parts of the lore, the asmodians tell the Elyos to curse their lords because they have ruined the Asmodian's life. The asmodians aren't evil, they're just upset and want revenge. Sounds reasonable right?

I won't go into all the stories of the horrible things the Elyos did as that would make me sound biased but I will tell you they DID do bad things, Asmodians as well.

You can find both books here:
Book of the Elyos | Aion
Book of the Asmodians | Aion

So tell me, who are the real bad guys? The Balaur or the Asmodians?

[FeralWolf]

The Elyos, no jk the balaur are the original evil race, it only makes sense they would take advantage of being in the tower

[NynjaPanda]

The Bible is the real bad guy.

[Vabjekf]

The elyos are the real bad guys.

FACT: One side of the tower must be destroyed to save the whole world.

The asmodians live in a desolate area where they have to struggle to survive.
The elyos live in a lush fertile land with plenty of food and resources for everything.

The elyos could just invite the asmodians to come live over there, destroy the asmo side of the tower, save the world, and live happily ever after.

But noooo they cant have that. So they just try to kill the asmodians instead. pfft.

[Moonlight Shadow]

I don't mean to offend but there's already a lot of threads like this that go into a lot more detail. In a nutshell, most people agree that the Balaur are the only race that could be considered evil.

Here's one of the many threads discussing lore that you can go through if you want.

[xr0yc3x]

Originally Posted by Vabjekf

The elyos are the real bad guys.

FACT: One side of the tower must be destroyed to save the whole world.

The asmodians live in a desolate area where they have to struggle to survive.
The elyos live in a lush fertile land with plenty of food and resources for everything.

The elyos could just invite the asmodians to come live over there, destroy the asmo side of the tower, save the world, and live happily ever after.

But noooo they cant have that. So they just try to kill the asmodians instead. pfft.

i like the way you think. in reality they would probably do this since they're so bent on peace, but wouldn't that make the whole game.... non-existant?

[GrayArea09]

Either way good lore to have around. thumbs up on the story writers!

[xr0yc3x]

Originally Posted by Moonlight Shadow

I don't mean to offend but there's already a lot of threads like this that go into a lot more detail. In a nutshell, most people agree that the Balaur are the only race that could be considered evil.

Here's one of the many threads discussing lore that you can go through if you want.

Ok, so you want me to create a thread with instead of my own opinions, just have a link to someone else's thread? Umm... no. People still don't understand the lore regardless of how many lore threads there are floating around. I made the thread because I want to say it myself.

[The_Void]

Probably been seen a hundred times but the first Aion podcast episode has some nice info about lore/world. Sucked me in deeper into Aion ^^.

YouTube - Aion Video Podcast Episode 1: The World & Lore HD

YouTube - Aion Video Podcast Episode 1: The World & Lore HD

[Faliandra]

yeah, i read it. and while you actually DID explain some things that i agree i didnt think of, i still think its slightly biased, but i guess i cant blame you. everyone who read the lore will decide which side appeals more to them, so not being biased, is really hard. also about Vitra: well, i read it as "killed", im sorry. but even if he wasnt killed, even if he was only attacked, the balaur still wouldnt sit around doing nothing. as for the part where you say that the balaur planned this all upfront and were the ones to attack vitra...that is nowhere written and is only a personal speculation with no facts. i understand why you doubt that asphel was the one who tried to do it, because, YES IN FACT, that would be DAMN STUPID...but then again, how many damn stupid things have happened in history? When you hate them so much and you got them right in front of you, some people just dont think of the consequences. And considering, they didnt wanna make peace, it doesnt seem too unrealistic to me. But i guess that's the gap between the story where everyone will make up his own part to fill it.

Originally Posted by Vabjekf

The elyos are the real bad guys.

FACT: One side of the tower must be destroyed to save the whole world.

The asmodians live in a desolate area where they have to struggle to survive.
The elyos live in a lush fertile land with plenty of food and resources for everything.

The elyos could just invite the asmodians to come live over there, destroy the asmo side of the tower, save the world, and live happily ever after.

But noooo they cant have that. So they just try to kill the asmodians instead. pfft.

why would the elyos do this after they went through one of the rifts to asmodae, and the shedim lords starting to tell them they should curse their seraphim lords? The elyos didnt even attack after that,instead they only refused to do so and said to curse the seraphim lords. THEN, it was the asmodians who attacked them.

If they wanted to come down to elysea so bad, then they should've tried to talk to them, not attack them.

[xr0yc3x]

Originally Posted by Faliandra

yeah, i read it. and while you actually DID explain some things that i agree i didnt think of, i still think its slightly biased, but i guess i cant blame you. everyone who read the lore will decide which side appeals more to them, so not being biased, is really hard. also about Vitra: well, i read it as "killed", im sorry. but even if he wasnt killed, even if he was only attacked, the balaur still wouldnt sit around doing nothing. as for the part where you say that the balaur planned this all upfront and were the ones to attack vitra...that is nowhere written and is only a personal speculation with no facts. i understand why you doubt that asphel was the one who tried to do it, because, YES IN FACT, that would be DAMN STUPID...but then again, how many damn stupid things have happened in history? When you hate them so much and you got them right in front of you, some people just dont think of the consequences. And considering, they didnt wanna make peace, it doesnt seem too unrealistic to me. But i guess that's the gap between the story where everyone will make up his own part to fill it.





why would the elyos do this after they went through one of the rifts to asmodae, and the shedim lords starting to tell them they should curse their seraphim lords? The elyos didnt even attack after that,instead they only refused to do so and said to curse the seraphim lords. THEN, it was the asmodians who attacked them.

If they wanted to come down to elysea so bad, then they should've tried to talk to them, not attack them.

no, he was indeed killed. the dragon lord was killed but my point in the argument was that Asphel was not the only suspect for the killing. i said it could have been one of the balaur attempting to make a distraction so they could make a break for the tower (as they had planned all along). also i SAID it was my opinion. it's my speculation yes, and i think it sounds more reasonable and lets you have more of an imagination and feeling for both sides. there was no evidence that the balaur did this but there was no evidence that Asphel did it. so it's only safe to assume that the evil race (balaur) were behind it.

but you know... if he did do it... what difference does that make? he wasn't an asmodian, he was one person. that's like saying since some black guy robbed a store, all black guys are robbers.

[GrayArea09]

If you like and want to discuss lore you should post in the Lore forum idea thread to show support

[Dware]

Not to sound rude, but not one person in my guild cares about the lore whatsoever, we just want to be able to stab people in the face in a playable game.

Been so many trash MMO's lately

[xr0yc3x]

Originally Posted by Dware

Not to sound rude, but not one person in my guild cares about the lore whatsoever, we just want to be able to stab people in the face in a playable game.

Been so many trash MMO's lately

if you don't care about lore, why did you read or even post in this thread? /facepalm

you did indeed sound rude.

[GrayArea09]

I am glad your guild doesn't care about lore? but there are people who do and like discussing and debating it.