Males playing as females??

[Marchosias]

Originally Posted by Fayeth

I personnally can't play a male charater, it feels odd to me. Even more so with teh game sounds turned on. It's just very odd to me.
Games where you have to be a male i generally stay away from. Some rts games require to you play a male for a little bit then switch to somethhing else and im always findign that i enjoy playing teh female campiagns more, i suppose it is subconscience thing.

It's a good thing most guys don't feel the same way or the Metroid series would be dead.

My opinions is the same as before, but I did have something I want to add to it (others have said it already, but oh well...). In response to the people saying that men that role women for any sort of advantage/to "seduce gamer geeks" all I have to say is that if you let them, you deserve it 100%. If you don't have the common sense to at least get them into vent with you, well then you deserve to get ripped off. Even then, though, there's something inherently creeperish about fawning over women in video games, so I hope they get a female friend of there's in vent to convince you further.

I mean, I actually have some experience with this, but in a slightly different respect. There was a woman in one of my guilds in WoW that was an absolutely terrible healer. They let her stay in the guild, let her raid, and then gave her drops that she didn't deserve more than her male counterparts that did a much better job with less gear (I'm by no means saying women in general are bad players, but in this example she actually was). Now, the difference here is that she knew the guild leader IRL, in which case I understand keeping her in the guild and maybe even letting her raid (even though it reflects poorly on the guild and hurts us in raids... I've always thought that atmosphere is more important to the health of the guild than success). However, even knowing her in real life I was ****ed that she was getting priority on drops, so if he didn't even know her IRL... well, that would have been a whole different thing.

So, if a guy, who's had experiences like this decides that maybe he wants to try and work the system to get some drops (and I'm not saying I have, but I understand why someone would), and it works... more power to him. Again, the moral of this story is that treating people differently in game ruins the atmosphere, so treat everyone the same, don't make assumptions about gender based on the character's, and everyone comes out a winner.

[Kreator]

>.> a new way to post <.< mspaint ftw ... no photoshop on crappy laptop

[Unforsaken87]

Originally Posted by N0rdic Ninja

That's the way to do it Unforsaken, if there's anything I've learned from the internet it's bashing someone's opinions always convinces them they're wrong. ô¿~ *shakes head*

I agree with Unforsaken's general mindset, although I have a slightly less bloodthirsty/in your face/I'm right you're wrong stance on it.

Well to even bring up blocking other males from playing female toons and vice versa is stupid. Awesome thing to teach kids. What he stated along with his opinion was rude. Its a form of bigotry. It doesnt even make sense. Dont get me wrong a male playing a female to scam is pretty crappy, if you fall for it though I think you deserve it, but its still crappy. I know its his opinion but I took offense to it, so I was a bit more forceful with what I had to say.

[Etra]

Originally Posted by Fayeth

I personnally can't play a male charater, it feels odd to me. Even more so with teh game sounds turned on. It's just very odd to me.
Games where you have to be a male i generally stay away from. Some rts games require to you play a male for a little bit then switch to somethhing else and im always findign that i enjoy playing teh female campiagns more, i suppose it is subconscience thing.

I know what you mean. I have a game where one of the playable characters makes me feel so dirty... Like I really want to hear a guy shout "Take it!" and "Oh yeah!" in the midst of battle. <___<

On the other hand, the girls don't do this, though. They just have giant bewbies, of course. -.-

Originally Posted by Unforsaken87

Well to even bring up blocking other males from playing female toons and vice versa is stupid. Awesome thing to teach kids. What he stated along with his opinion was rude. Its a form of bigotry. It doesnt even make sense. Dont get me wrong a male playing a female to scam is pretty crappy, if you fall for it though I think you deserve it, but its still crappy. I know its his opinion but I took offense to it, so I was a bit more forceful with what I had to say.

Totally agree. I found the OP to be insulting. Which is why I didn't hold back on my initial post, either.

[solimor]

As long as the player doesnt act as he is a Girl IRL it doesnt mather at all.

Why should it, sure thing its handy to be Sure what they are IRL for cyrbing and locking for a date, but then its exist bether mediums for both of does things so why not play the game instead

[N0rdic Ninja]

Originally Posted by Unforsaken87

Well to even bring up blocking other males from playing female toons and vice versa is stupid. Awesome thing to teach kids. What he stated along with his opinion was rude. Its a form of bigotry. It doesnt even make sense. Dont get me wrong a male playing a female to scam is pretty crappy, if you fall for it though I think you deserve it, but its still crappy. I know its his opinion but I took offense to it, so I was a bit more forceful with what I had to say.

I agree whole heartedly with what you have to say, we're pretty much on the same wavelength. I just don't think he realized what he said when he was typing it, the average person doesn't perceive their beliefs to be something others might take offense to. On a subject that is so opinion based like this one, one must remember to not make their statements come off as "facts." Otherwise, someone else is likely to discredit the statement, usually in an antagonizing fashion. Basically like what just happened to him.

Your reaction was definitely warranted, I just hope you weren't planning on actually changing his mind. ^_^; I also hope he actually believes what he's saying and not saying it cause he presumes it's what the other posters want to hear. I hate it when that happens XD

[Unforsaken87]

Originally Posted by solimor

As long as the player doesnt act as he is a Girl IRL it doesnt mather at all.

Why should it, sure thing its handy to be Sure what they are IRL for cyrbing and locking for a date, but then its exist bether mediums for both of does things so why not play the game instead

Why does it matter if he does act like he is a girl IRL. Its none of your business. I guess unless your friends, but even then. Gender has nothing to do with the game, just play it.

Originally Posted by N0rdic Ninja

I agree whole heartedly with what you have to say, we're pretty much on the same wavelength. I just don't think he realized what he said when he was typing it, the average person doesn't perceive their beliefs to be something others might take offense to. On a subject that is so opinion based like this one, one must remember to not make their statements come off as "facts." Otherwise, someone else is likely to discredit the statement, usually in an antagonizing fashion. Basically like what just happened to him.

Your reaction was definitely warranted, I just hope you weren't planning on actually changing his mind. ^_^; I also hope he actually believes what he's saying and not saying it cause he presumes it's what the other posters want to hear. I hate it when that happens XD

No I never aim to change people's minds. Just to get my piont across.

[Koji]

Originally Posted by GrandKamikazi

But did you HAVE to be a hobbit. O_o

Yes. I like the shortest race in any game i play. They just seem like the underdogs and the ones no-one thinks will be able to do anything useful. That's where i prove them wrong while their guard is down ;P

[Iven]

Originally Posted by elliot

wow a lot of hate there. I hope you do realize that you also insulted yourself there. So you are a fugly mofo with a impulsively ugly body who likes to scam other people on games? Do you stare at your virtual female self and go omg I am so hot? Maybe a hint of I wanna be a woman there as well. You are the sick man, mate

People who insult other gamers when they are gamers themselves are really lame. It shows low self esteem and self hate. Don't take it out on other people. Go cut yourself if you hate yourself so much and please save us the annoyance

Originally Posted by GrandKamikazi

So, does that mean u r fugly? U also must be a pervie if ya like to play girls. (We all know u play girls for ure personal enjoyment too). And stealing from horny nerds is mean. lawl. peace.

Lol what makes you think i'm a religious gamer? Besides you didn't get the point behind what i am saying. I look at everyone equally, race, gender, sex all put aside. " Here you are all equally worthless." -Full Metal Jacket. I hate the little immature kids(and pedophiles) who jump to the conclusion that every female character is in fact a girl who they can do a favor for and hope it somehow scores them some points... being kind is one thing. Pretending to be kind in order to serve your own personal goals is something i hate.

I had a sicko in my FFXI clan that wanted to meet up with a 14 year old girl, he also verbally harassed her on vent. I just like to return the favor to these f*ed up people who do favors thinking it will in some sick fantasy way help them get laid.

[Celebrity]

If only girls played girls chars we would see almost none around. The woman population that play games are a lot fewer then the man population that play. Take my guild as example we are like 30 guys and only 2 girls (both married with guys of the guild)

Remember when people pay to play they whant to play anything that comes to their mind, male or female.

And take no offence, i do have played many times both types and still like more to see a girl most of the time on my screen then a dude with (usually) a weird movement i don't like.

[Shureilia]

I don't care at all whether someone wants to play as a character of another gender. If they do it only to get free stuff out of people, boo to them and the people that fall for it. What they want to play as in a game does not tell me the type of person they are. My interactions with them will tell me that.

Tried playing as a male (since I definitely understand the logic that some people don't want to stare at an avatar they don't like), but since I kind of put myself into the role of the character I'm playing, it's usually not very satisfying. So more power to the people that can role play as another gender.

I've been mistaken for a G.I.R.L a lot, and I've learned not to bother correcting someone's assumption unless they care enough to ask. Had some weird incidents with two dudes in Maple Story (although lots of jerks are in that game anyway). And again in Trickster, a guy in my party gave me a ruby and said "girls like jewels, right?" -_- To this day I'm not sure if he was being creepy or trying to be nice.

Another thing I've learned is to not take stuff from other players unless it's an equal trade. Even when in parties I don't take many of the drops since I very rarely "need" anything or feel that I did a lot of the work. It's great when someone gives out of kindness, but I don't often take. For fear that by some unspoken agreement the giver feels I'm obligated to cyber. XD

Um, in conclusion, too much emphasis is being placed on the player's RL identity, and not enough on their skills or personality in game.

[VendorTrash]

Originally Posted by GrandKamikazi

Is it just me, or are a lot of the "female" characters in MMORPG's actually men? Ya see, I've had some bad experiences in MMORPG's where I find out that the people playing the female characters are...boys. Should this be allowed? Its kind of socially awkward when your talking to somone in a game and you either have to live with not knowing their gender, or ya have to ask them outright, which is also awkward. (Although when I ask, most people are sympathetic to my predicament.)

The only reason I can think of where people would want to play the opposite gender in a game is either, they want a sex change, or they're bored out of their minds and want to pass a few hours with a 'drunk' female char dancing on a table in a inn in Stormwind. If theres any other reasons, please postem.

So, I'm wondering if Aion should have a system where when you sign up, ya choose your gender, and then in that account you can only play as your ACTUAL gender. Preventing lots of socially awkward instances.

The only downsides to this that I can think of is that now, your little sister/brother will have to create a new acount to play a gender correct char, OR it will alienate a lot of people from buying Aion.

So, do you agree with me? Or do you think people should be able to play both female and male characters under one account?

P.S Females who actually play female chars, take no offense, I know that there are actual female gamers out there, and u guys r AWESOME!

For once in my life I'd like to post something that is actually meaningful...

poeple are paying to play this game
they can pick whatever gender that they want.
there would be no diversity in the game whatsoever if players couldnt choose between male/female, you might as well rip RPG right out of MMORPG

this is the most useless thread ive seen posted so far, and yet its gone 6+ pages.
close this please.

this thread is now about cake.
discuss.

[eVenom]

Why cares about if you play the opposite sex in a game? Some mmo's make males all look ****ty/the same, so why not play a women? Hey, it's a digital model, no one should care too much about how you look and focus on the gameplay. I've always stoodby people that like to play any gender.

And cake is delicious. What is you favorite?

[VendorTrash]

i like yellow cake with chocolate frosting

im also a big fan of ice cream cake, any kind of ice cream cake.

[N0rdic Ninja]

Red Velvet cake ftw!