Wipe after Open Beta?

[Endrance]

OB is a testing phase that is most likely supposed to have bugs and issues (not as much as CB, but it's still for testing purposes). I don't get why anyone could think that it shouldn't be wiped. But as I've already stated, I'm fine with not wiping as long as they let us know beforehand, although a wipe does always make more sense. If I could chose, it'd always be a wipe.

[Corum]

I remember a time when people were vigilantly arguing for no wipes after open beta, when did it change?

[Lucius]

I have been on both sides of this discussion. I have been a beta tester for a few games and I have to say that there is a part that is somewhat annoying about having your character either wiped or your level roled back. I was an open beta tester for the game 2moons and there was no wipe after beta closed.

As a tester I have to say I completely understand the point of both closed and open beta testers. They are there simply to test the aspects of the game, and therefore aren't expected to be complete character builds, or so it is seen by most developers. The Testers already have an advantage in that they will have a better understanding on character building, therefore the general thought by other players (non - beta testers) is that they should have their beta test characters wiped. I have to agree with this.

However, being a beta tester in the past myself and having your level 60+ character wiped or having the level roled back to level 20 or 25 is quite discouraging. Afterall, we donate our time to play the game looking for connectivity issues and gameplay problems and taking the time to report them to the powers that be and therefore you expect a little loyalty from the companies that you are testing for. I understand the frustration for I have had to deal with it myself. There should be some sort of accomplishment insentive for the beta testers but I don't think it should be to keep their characters. I suggested on several other games to gift the beta testers free currancy, skill points, or weapons/armor based on their level and the number of valuable problems they reported. Not something that would be to adventagious but something to show they were appreciated by the game developers and companies.

Conclusion to this little rant is that they beta test characters should be wiped but the players should have something to show for their time they donated in the test phase of the games development.

[Seeka]

Originally Posted by mmr@knology.net

I have been on both sides of this discussion. I have been a beta tester for a few games and I have to say that there is a part that is somewhat annoying about having your character either wiped or your level roled back. I was an open beta tester for the game 2moons and there was no wipe after beta closed.

As a tester I have to say I completely understand the point of both closed and open beta testers. They are there simply to test the aspects of the game, and therefore aren't expected to be complete character builds, or so it is seen by most developers. The Testers already have an advantage in that they will have a better understanding on character building, therefore the general thought by other players (non - beta testers) is that they should have their beta test characters wiped. I have to agree with this.

However, being a beta tester in the past myself and having your level 60+ character wiped or having the level roled back to level 20 or 25 is quite discouraging. Afterall, we donate our time to play the game looking for connectivity issues and gameplay problems and taking the time to report them to the powers that be and therefore you expect a little loyalty from the companies that you are testing for. I understand the frustration for I have had to deal with it myself. There should be some sort of accomplishment insentive for the beta testers but I don't think it should be to keep their characters. I suggested on several other games to gift the beta testers free currancy, skill points, or weapons/armor based on their level and the number of valuable problems they reported. Not something that would be to adventagious but something to show they were appreciated by the game developers and companies.

Conclusion to this little rant is that they beta test characters should be wiped but the players should have something to show for their time they donated in the test phase of the games development.

The something they get as a bonus was to actually get to take part in the beta hey I would do the beta w/o any bonuses except to get to test the game out and help to offer my ideas ... to me thats a huge bonus

[Lucius]

I have to say that I agree in theory but in the case of actually testing the games I find that after 6 or 8 months of playing and developing your character and learning the game and reporting bugs and such just to help the developers create a better game experiance, then you have all your work wiped out (i.e your character ) it is a little discouraging.

I did say that I agree that the players should be wiped but I have to say that I have had my characters wiped in the past and when I was a little younger I was far more upset about it. Now I understand more why they do what they do and I agree to a point. I just think that having a slightly better weapon at the beginning of the game or a few extra $$ at the beginning is addiquate for the time that someone puts in to test a new game. I don't think it is something that will ever be done but I think it would be a nice little thing to say thanks to the testers. Maybe even a little logo next to their Character name, or a VGM for a period time or something like that. Just my thoughts.

[Raven.]

This game is shaping up to be no where close to ludicrous as a Lineage 2 as far as leveling up yourself. Therefore, I am confident they will wipe the characters from OB. Open Beta is a time to experiment and experience what you like best. That in itself is your edge/reward and because the game is going to be a heck of a lot easier to progress you are a lot less likely to cut your wrists when they wipe chars.

[slytemplar]

Originally Posted by Corum

I remember a time when people were vigilantly arguing for no wipes after open beta, when did it change?

now i guise we think it kind of cheep and unfair to get that advantage over evry one and OB is a testing fase so evry thing might not run right.

[Arrowtaru]

Originally Posted by slytemplar

now i guise we think it kind of cheep and unfair to get that advantage over evry one and OB is a testing fase so evry thing might not run right.

.....What?

[marthyr2]

If we get an Open Beta with a wipe , lol i dont care , its just a test session , idk why ppl want to keep their tests char...

[Arrowtaru]

I dont really wanna keep my test character. I just want to play the game and have some fun ffs.

[Killer]

Originally Posted by Arrowtaru

I dont really wanna keep my test character. I just want to play the game and have some fun ffs.

Ya same lol. i was reading what they did in GW like they save ur name i like that idea.

[Valentina]

I definitely agree with Wipes. Everyone should start on equal grounds, although I believe a good pre-order benefit could be Early Access. It lets you get into the launch version of the game a few days early, and get a head start before the masses come flooding in. This is also good for the games economy so that not EVERYONE is a newbie on the first day, and it's good for clearing up the starter areas a little.

[Arvalo85]

well now it doesnt matter i hope this stupid thread finally dies, there is no open beta.

[0lli]

Originally Posted by Fayeth

I think they will learn from their mistakes ^_^

They definitly SHOULD be a wipe after open Beta

Learn from their mistakes???

They havent during the years I have played Lineage 2 =(

That said let's hope they will this time

[SkatMan]

When in doubt wipe it out!