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Old 12-16-2008, 07:04 AM   #151 (permalink)
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I'm just curious, unfortunately I lack the time to be able to read this entire thread, as it was probably mentioned somewhere, but has it been confirmed yet exactly what type of control scheme Aion will have? I personally find CTM very limiting, as it doesn't give me as close of a feeling of connection to my character and what he is doing, and will most likely avoid this game if that is the ONLY option. So if anyone can confirm if WASD will be available, I would be most grateful.

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Both is available: Click2move and WSAD. You can change this in the settings as yo like.

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:30 AM   #152 (permalink)
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i really dont see the point of this topic, i mean have you played Aion yet ? the fact that YOU want one option removed is absolutely selfish and pointless. I played aion in KOBT and i used both styles because that way i move best and i have to admit that although many games have both, in this game the systems didnt get me tangled in them, so if you want to polay with one or the other you are free to do so even if they are both enabled, you wont get mixed in them.

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Old 12-16-2008, 12:37 PM   #153 (permalink)
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Most games that have click tomove have a "keyboard mode" where click is disabled and wasd becomes the movment.... Its all really personal play style preferance. It would be silly to take the choice out ~_^. With more choices in teh game it will apply to a bigger crowd of people which makes more monies! Most people will use one or the other not both, but its just nice to have the option.

Presonnally i use wasd. That leaves my right hand free to move the camera/loot, and hit a chain of keybinds which i normally put on the number pad. also using wasd makes it real easy (for me) to just stick that pinky out and tab target.
Thats EXACTLY how i was playing wow , all keys from the pad + 4 arrows + 6 buttons Home,End etc. total of 27 binds on my right hand and ofc the pinky at the left hand to pick targets with the TAB.It was the thing that i loved most from wow , simply fakin awesome, i hope u can do that in Aion also.

Btw it will be pain in the *** to move at the abyss with click and move , anyone tried to fly like that ? it seems that with wasd flight will be much easier !
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:47 PM   #154 (permalink)
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Some people IRL are click to move (puppets) and some are WASD (self-movers). Some people like to go drive through MickeyD's and others like to make their own damburger.
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Old 12-16-2008, 04:45 PM   #155 (permalink)
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There are a few situations where click to move fails you, for instance, in guild wars, you could walk thru lava, but if you did, it was a super fast death. Click to move usually takes the shortest path, and unless you want to click around obstercals in a multi-point fashion, you have to use manual control, in terrain sensitive areas, it is simply better.

I would perfer WASD movement only, but with click to move availabe, it does navigate the shortest path better than you may sometimes realize, so it is simply a better option if it is available much of the time, the only way to make WASD better is to make direction and terrain sensitive situations which greatly impact combat or nagivation, and if they bother to do all that then they may as well remove click to move.

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Old 12-16-2008, 04:55 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Anyone think they would use City of Heros as a guide to this and have both options on a enable button? CTM for boring travel and WASD for combat as CMT in City of Heros is crap to try and use.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:31 PM   #157 (permalink)
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Both is available: Click2move and WSAD. You can change this in the settings as yo like.
Thank you and great news. I do like using both, CTM for travel at times, and WASD is definitely my prefered way to do combat, due to the greater feeling of control over your character. For me between the two I'd rather have WASD, and usually avoid CTM only games, but I'm glad that many games are now doing both, to make everyone happy.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:55 PM   #158 (permalink)
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ctm= god am I there yet
WASD= oh ****, twitch-reaction ftw
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Old 12-16-2008, 06:08 PM   #159 (permalink)
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Thats EXACTLY how i was playing wow , all keys from the pad + 4 arrows + 6 buttons Home,End etc. total of 27 binds on my right hand and ofc the pinky at the left hand to pick targets with the TAB.It was the thing that i loved most from wow , simply fakin awesome, i hope u can do that in Aion also.

Btw it will be pain in the *** to move at the abyss with click and move , anyone tried to fly like that ? it seems that with wasd flight will be much easier !
She also keeps her right hand free for "other" reasons too ;p.

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Old 12-16-2008, 06:22 PM   #160 (permalink)
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WoW's movement and combat promote jumping around like retards

if you are on a 2h warrior or pally that takes 1.9 seconds to swing his axe, in between swings are you gonna stand there taking damage? hell no im gonna jump around like a moron and only get near him every 2 seconds
You can use skills between swings :S

You can blame WoW for that senseless crazy WASD action on 1v1 duels but I found 1v1 duels in WoW much better and skill involving than Aion static 1v1s only with combos giving them some fun ( Im playing Aion since Korean Open beta until its released in Europe)

I wish they could just rip off click to move system in order to improve WASD in Aion, that would be very nice.

Looks like they wanted to satisfy both styles WASD and click to move without a real success.

Anyway WASD control is not that bad but I bet it would be better if they had build up the game for WASD only.

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:33 PM   #161 (permalink)
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Click to move is an abomination, and the main reason I never played L2 (for very long) or Guild Wars.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:47 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Click to move is an abomination, and the main reason I never played L2 (for very long) or Guild Wars.
Ye, I went from GW to WoW and at first I was a bit annoyed that there was no click to move/auto follow attack, but then after a few days I started to prefer the freedom and I LOVE how you don't have to stand still to execute a skill on your opponent. I mean thinking back on it when I was PvPing in GW it was annoying as hell reaching my enemy, raising my sword only to have him run off and my attack not going off because it auto cancels if I move, and then we go into the cat and mouse game for 10 mins before I land a hit, it's a shame that there's an auto follow/attack in Aion, brings down the PvP side of things.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:38 PM   #163 (permalink)
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what i'm wondering is if CTM in aion will function like it did in L2. ie left is CTM and right+drag is position camera?

and to all who failed @ CTM, it's preference. maybe better for YOU, different people different tastes/abilities bla bla bla. i got really good at kiting/pvping/pve CTM and i really liked it.

what about flying with CTM? OBT players? is it like EVE?
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:44 AM   #164 (permalink)
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Can you hold down both mouse buttons or middle mouse button to move?
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Can you hold down both mouse buttons or middle mouse button to move?
Yes, hold down both left and right.

Holding down the middle button lets you move around the camera while your character moves in one direction (holding down shift does the same thing).
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