PvP outside the abyss ?

[hits79]

Get off your damn high horse.

while pvp is a main part of end game, there are going to be more than that way to attain high end gear, as stated numerous times. I for one enjoy pvp, so dont take this as coming from a "carebear" which by the way, is a ludicrous label to people who enjoy the PvE side of the game, and attain gear that way. I could easily label you as a short sighted individual.

Your hypothetical scenario of one side all doing one thing and one doing another, will never, ever happen, so the point you are making is quite moot.

Both sides will have a mixture of the two, servers will obviously have slightly different quirks but essentially youll have both types of players on each side, so instead of asking people not to be on the same server as you, perhaps you should try to deal with it, or is that too much for you to handle?

well said..........

[Calindor]

Originally Posted by gerrykeen19

Get off your damn high horse.

while pvp is a main part of end game, there are going to be more than that way to attain high end gear, as stated numerous times. I for one enjoy pvp, so dont take this as coming from a "carebear" which by the way, is a ludicrous label to people who enjoy the PvE side of the game, and attain gear that way. I could easily label you as a short sighted individual.

Your hypothetical scenario of one side all doing one thing and one doing another, will never, ever happen, so the point you are making is quite moot.

Both sides will have a mixture of the two, servers will obviously have slightly different quirks but essentially youll have both types of players on each side, so instead of asking people not to be on the same server as you, perhaps you should try to deal with it, or is that too much for you to handle?



Here are the current facts and are currently in game at this point ;

-Full Open Factional based PvP in the abyss.
-Portals that will randomly open for short periods of time into other factions areas for "Occasional confrontation"
-Arena (currently for fun)

Anything else is rumor only or being discussed

It was also stated that just like WoW, all the best gear can ONLY be gotten with PVP points. And its also stated that your whole faction advances as a whole, so the imbalance between the 2 will sometimes get very large, a lot more so than WoW..and I've seen some pretty imbalanced WoW server....although the NPC race will be there to balance things out.

And it was just a joke dude, get the sand out of your ******...of course you can never control who goes on your server....Im just hoping what happened in WoW (pvers tend to go alliance and pvpers go horde) doesnt happen here.

[Couchfugz]

I wouldnt say ALL of the best gear is through pvp.. id say alot fo it will be good but not the best. and even if there are alot of pvers on 1 side it doesnt mean you wont be getting help form them too seeing as they will need to pvp eventually to craft items and what not.

[Cynthe]

Originally Posted by Calindor

It was also stated that just like WoW, all the best gear can ONLY be gotten with PVP points.

Some of the best gear can be obtained that way, but you can also craft uber items, that's why there's dragon materials and Abyss materials... And this is why PvErs will want access to the Abyss either by participating themselves or having their guildmates in there or whatever, I think dragon mats can be obtained from Balaur bosses and will be another incentive to do dungeons runs..

[gerrykeen19]

exactly. SOME of the high end gear, and it was alsa stated, that equivilent gear could be attained via crafting and pve.

Even casual players had their own method of doing short quests do gain the same type of gear.

And if you really hoped that it doesnt become an imbalanced server, then maybe you should accept "carebears" on your team who do pve, (and may infact have better items than the pvp only players) and try and show them the fun in pvp isntead of excluding them.

[hirantha]

Originally Posted by gerrykeen19

Get off your damn high horse.

while pvp is a main part of end game, there are going to be more than that way to attain high end gear, as stated numerous times. I for one enjoy pvp, so dont take this as coming from a "carebear" which by the way, is a ludicrous label to people who enjoy the PvE side of the game, and attain gear that way. I could easily label you as a short sighted individual.

Your hypothetical scenario of one side all doing one thing and one doing another, will never, ever happen, so the point you are making is quite moot.

Both sides will have a mixture of the two, servers will obviously have slightly different quirks but essentially youll have both types of players on each side, so instead of asking people not to be on the same server as you, perhaps you should try to deal with it, or is that too much for you to handle?



Here are the current facts and are currently in game at this point ;

-Full Open Factional based PvP in the abyss.
-Portals that will randomly open for short periods of time into other factions areas for "Occasional confrontation"
-Arena (currently for fun)

Anything else is rumor only or being discussed

Thank you!!Wonderfully said! us all PvE addicts love you for that comment!.. oh i will be pvp (only in the designated zones) so watch out all of ya

[Elitper]

priest can kill some1 on abbys ? i think they dont go abbys when they dont have party and how they can take pvp points ? and who take pvp points if 5-6 players attack 1 person ? who give last hit ? or more dmg? you see many situations where 20 v 5 :P

[lyankyj]

jameinkaiser mentioned me some things, just shoot me if these have been posted before:

""
a couple things that i may not have covered [[in my previous translations]] are:
direct portals only go one-way (you can't use the same portal to return to your own realm)""

""
Q: Do skills work the same way while the characters in flight?

They will work slightly different while the character's in flight. For example, the gladiator has a skill that spikes down on a fallen enemy while on the ground, but when in flight this will have the effect of making the enemy plunge from the sky.

Of the skills that are available while on the ground, there are those that can be used while in mid-air and those that cannot. There are aerial-specific skills as well as skills that allow you to suspend the enemy in mid-air and attack in this state." - nothing new, only confirmation and a concrete example
""
(some of them were mentioned during g*07)

[Sovrath]

Originally Posted by gerrykeen19

Here are the current facts and are currently in game at this point ;

-Full Open Factional based PvP in the abyss.
-Portals that will randomly open for short periods of time into other factions areas for "Occasional confrontation"
-Arena (currently for fun)

Anything else is rumor only or being discussed

This is what it is unless they change it during beta. Verbatim.

It is not an open pvp FFA world. You can pvp anytime in the abyss. At times there are portals that will open to the other side where you can attack the other side. There are areas that are completely safe and those are the lower lvl areas. It is not clear if you have to flag yourself for pvp or not.

You can do arena or duels for your own side.

I knew this was going to happen. People, are looking for another Lineage 2 and they are going to be dissapointed.

[Calindor]

Originally Posted by Sovrath

This is what it is unless they change it during beta. Verbatim.

It is not an open pvp FFA world. You can pvp anytime in the abyss. At times there are portals that will open to the other side where you can attack the other side. There are areas that are completely safe and those are the lower lvl areas. It is not clear if you have to flag yourself for pvp or not.

You can do arena or duels for your own side.

I knew this was going to happen. People, are looking for another Lineage 2 and they are going to be dissapointed.

he never said open ffa pvp world, he said open ffa pvp abyss, which is true and which meants the abyss will be kinda like L2

[Glacius]

Originally Posted by Calindor

It was also stated that just like WoW, all the best gear can ONLY be gotten with PVP points.

Apparently you played a different WoW then I did. "All of the best gear" was not attained through PvP. In fact, only a small percentage of "top gear" was attainable through PvP. WoW was designed this way for balance. The same arguement can be applied to Aion. It would be a fundamental flaw in the game to attribute all of the top gear to strictly PvP. There would be little benefit for anyone to do anything other then PvP which leads to the same continuous end. Boredom.

[Sovrath]

Originally Posted by Calindor

he never said open ffa pvp world, he said open ffa pvp abyss, which is true and which meants the abyss will be kinda like L2

Yes exactly. I'm using his post as the prime example of what the game will be and /agree.

My other comments are to the people who are insinuating that the game is going to or should have an open pvp world everywhere. This is not the case.

What he posted is exactly what the game will have UNLESS it gets changed in Beta.

[Calindor]

Originally Posted by Glacius

Apparently you played a different WoW then I did. "All of the best gear" was not attained through PvP. In fact, only a small percentage of "top gear" was attainable through PvP. WoW was designed this way for balance. The same arguement can be applied to Aion. It would be a fundamental flaw in the game to attribute all of the top gear to strictly PvP. There would be little benefit for anyone to do anything other then PvP which leads to the same continuous end. Boredom.

Actually i think the complete opposite. In WoW when you're 70, pretty much the main thing you can do is get gear, gear shouldnt be the end of the game. Look at L2, imo that game sucks until you already have the max lvl and the best gear. And they said in Aion the best gear is gotten through PvP, the kind of gear you cant change appearance/swap attributes.

[DemonXaphan]

Originally Posted by Calindor

Actually i think the complete opposite. In WoW when you're 70, pretty much the main thing you can do is get gear, gear shouldnt be the end of the game. Look at L2, imo that game sucks until you already have the max lvl and the best gear. And they said in Aion the best gear is gotten through PvP, the kind of gear you cant change appearance/swap attributes.

So basically you have to have PvP/PK points to acquire the best armor and weapons from some shop or npc?

[Hostis]

pvp are in all zones ( RvR): in abyss, in asmos and elios zones freely. you see enemy - you can attack him. but enemy can go to enemy's core zones threw portals, they opens at random time and in random location.