Heroes in pvp - Page 2

Jack · 12-21-2007, 03:07 PM

Wow, truely I don't like this. PvP in my eyes is meant to be balanced, everyone should have an equal chance at being killed and getting a kill through their skill. The guy that gets hero rank should not get buffs of the sort, just a title, as this is not really promoting skill, but 'LO LOL I'M HERO SO ICANZ INSTAKILLZU !'.

Birdman · 12-21-2007, 03:11 PM

Well if what you said were true, then everyone should also have equal gear, not LO LOL I PLAY MORE SO ICANZ INSTAKILLZU

Calindor · 12-21-2007, 03:42 PM

you dont think the best person of their class deserves some sort of bonus like skills/gear?

^^ to jack

Mark · 12-21-2007, 03:47 PM

Have ANY of you people ever come CLOSE to touching DAoC? Then you'd know what the Studio 5, Aion Team, means when they talk about "Hero" ranks. Think of them like Realm Ranks. Don't know what Realm Ranks are? Then you're not a true MMO fan, you haven't played one of the best MMOs ever made.

That's sad.

Birdman · 12-21-2007, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

Have ANY of you people ever come CLOSE to touching DAoC? Then you'd know what the Studio 5, Aion Team, means when they talk about "Hero" ranks. Think of them like Realm Ranks. Don't know what Realm Ranks are? Then you're not a true MMO fan, you haven't played one of the best MMOs ever made.

That's sad.

????

I was busy playing EQ. Why would I stop playing a game I had progressed so far into and gotten great gear to start a brand new mmo? At that time I wasn't close to being bored with the game yet. Despite EQ's flaws, it's higher on the "must play MMO" than DAoC because of it's effect on MMO's as a whole.

Mark · 12-21-2007, 04:12 PM

And RvR? :l

(I never did play EverQuest, too busy playing PristonTale for free.

)

Jack · 12-21-2007, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calindor

you dont think the best person of their class deserves some sort of bonus like skills/gear?

^^ to jack

A title or some fame, then yes, but gear, skills and weapons that make them unstoppable then no.

Fayeth · 12-21-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calindor

you dont think the best person of their class deserves some sort of bonus like skills/gear?

^^ to jack

I wouldnt say skills or gear... different wings, a title, a mount, or a new skin only they can use for their armor sure.

Infinity · 12-22-2007, 03:28 PM

If their the best of their class... odds are they are already in one of the top PvE/PvP guilds, have the best gear, and are slightly renown... Giving them more hardware... like Gear, Skills etc. Is only gonna make them more Imba... However, Like others said, I think Titles, or armor that isn't useful, but to show off... I think that is deserved.

Infinity

Birdman · 12-22-2007, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinity

If their the best of their class... odds are they are already in one of the top PvE/PvP guilds, have the best gear, and are slightly renown... Giving them more hardware... like Gear, Skills etc. Is only gonna make them more Imba... However, Like others said, I think Titles, or armor that isn't useful, but to show off... I think that is deserved.

Infinity

Don't worry, I'll keep it simple for you.

Best tank: Birdman
Best dps: Birdman
Best chanter: Birdman
Best mage: Birdman
Best dragon: Birdman

Mark · 12-22-2007, 04:04 PM

Best dood you'll never see at max-level: Mark

Because I'll be too damn lazy to ever get there before the game dies.

Infinity · 12-23-2007, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman

Don't worry, I'll keep it simple for you.

Best tank: Birdman
Best dps: Birdman
Best chanter: Birdman
Best mage: Birdman
Best dragon: Birdman

Ok lol thanks Birdman... I was afraid it was gonna get complicated >,>

and whats a Dragon ?? (in that context that is)

Infinity

Fuz · 12-23-2007, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

Wow, truely I don't like this. PvP in my eyes is meant to be balanced, everyone should have an equal chance at being killed and getting a kill through their skill. The guy that gets hero rank should not get buffs of the sort, just a title, as this is not really promoting skill, but 'LO LOL I'M HERO SO ICANZ INSTAKILLZU !'.

That's assuming the game is based on 1v1, or that your side will never have a hero.
I couldn't care less about how individual classes are balanced for 1v1 duels, as long as each player can contribute to their side's cause in the long-term. Even if a hero can oneshot me, he's a waste of enemy resources if our alliance and hero can take him down before he does any substantial harm.

I'm not going to say one or the other is "better" between 1v1 and Side vs Side games, but I was always more likely to get hooked on the latter, and that's why I get into mmo's. I still play console fighters with my friends and won some money playing UT, but mass pvp with an emphasis on fighting for your side and not for yourself is what pulls me in.

Aggelos · 12-23-2007, 09:49 AM

What are you guys talking about?! The whole idea of having heroes IS making them imbalanced :S They become mini-raids through hard work... it's logical.

And heroes have never been unstoppable, like a raid, they can be killed. Not 1v1, as Fuz said, of course.

Birdman · 12-23-2007, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinity

and whats a Dragon ?? (in that context that is)

You know, the third faction. The entire concept of PvPvE??

Yeah that's right, best dragon son

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Jack Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Thanks: 31 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Character: Osred Class: Spiritmaster Legion: Mystical Awakening Race: Asmodians Server: Perento	Wow, truely I don't like this. PvP in my eyes is meant to be balanced, everyone should have an equal chance at being killed and getting a kill through their skill. The guy that gets hero rank should not get buffs of the sort, just a title, as this is not really promoting skill, but 'LO LOL I'M HERO SO ICANZ INSTAKILLZU !'.

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Birdman Senior Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	Well if what you said were true, then everyone should also have equal gear, not LO LOL I PLAY MORE SO ICANZ INSTAKILLZU

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Mark Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Character: Mark Legion: AionBlah.com Race: Undecided	Have ANY of you people ever come CLOSE to touching DAoC? Then you'd know what the Studio 5, Aion Team, means when they talk about "Hero" ranks. Think of them like Realm Ranks. Don't know what Realm Ranks are? Then you're not a true MMO fan, you haven't played one of the best MMOs ever made. That's sad.

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Mark Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Character: Mark Legion: AionBlah.com Race: Undecided	And RvR? :l (I never did play EverQuest, too busy playing PristonTale for free. )

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Mark Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Character: Mark Legion: AionBlah.com Race: Undecided	Best dood you'll never see at max-level: Mark Because I'll be too damn lazy to ever get there before the game dies.

12-23-2007, 09:49 AM	#29 (permalink)
Aggelos Star Officer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chile Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Exdeusmachine Class: Cleric Legion: Imperio Race: Elyos Server: Triniel	What are you guys talking about?! The whole idea of having heroes IS making them imbalanced :S They become mini-raids through hard work... it's logical. And heroes have never been unstoppable, like a raid, they can be killed. Not 1v1, as Fuz said, of course.

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