The Abyss

[SoraNashimi]

Ok well I have seen in some threads that mention the Abyss and whatnot but havn't seen it discussed into detail yet.

For one I would like to mention is about the 7 castles that are in it which are going to be occupied by the Balaur at first. These castle sieges seem to be kinda like L2 in a way atleast I think, so well anyway when you gain control a castle no pvp will go on for a certain amount of time is what I have read. This is interesting too because it gives a chance for the ruling guild of that castle be able to build it up, put guards at gates, also siege weapons, set up other defences and etc for this time. Also whichever guild controls this at the time gets access to the resources around the castle and other benefits.

Also where do the Balaur come in? Since they balance the power between the two factions will they attack a random tower of the winning side or the strongest one of the winning side? Lets say they attack an Elyos castle, will the Asmodians be able to fight along side with them to take over that castle? Or as I stated above, since the castle at first were theirs, will they attack the Asmodians too cause they are trying to take it back for themselves.

One last thing to mention is that it will most likely take raids to take over these castles, maybe 3 groups minimum but It may all verywell depend on the Strategy of the players. I don't think it has been said yet that there will be a barrier to prevent the enemy flying into the castle itself so with that in mind the Flying System can be fun for an ambush on all sides, maybe a group inside as a distraction while the outside forces destroy the defences, alot of things are possible which seem pretty cool to me.

So yeah lets see what everyone thinks on how the Abyss will be since the second CBT hasn't started yet and it's not really well known

[DemonXaphan]

They already said that flying will not help in the sieges. As for the Balaur attacking is still not clear how it will happen, just that at random times they will attack either side. Yes the castle sieges will be like L2 is and the winners will have access to the mobs that are in the hunting grounds nearby. Not much of anything else of info on what will be available is out but CBT is still happening.

[lyankyj]

Originally Posted by SoraNashimi

is about the 7 castles that are in it

1 single segment of the Abyss (which will be opened in the second stage of ccbt) has 9 castles, so you could only imagine how many segments and castles are actually there.

Feel free to continue the discussion in one of these threads:
Abyss
Abyss #2

[aznkenshin]

Originally Posted by SoraNashimi

Also where do the Balaur come in?

As of now, the only official "answer" I can give you is when the balance of power has become uneven. In other words, when one faction is overwhelming the other, the Balaur will intervene to level it out. This is most prominently depicted in the G-STAR 2007 Trailer released a while ago.

Originally Posted by SoraNashimi

Since they balance the power between the two factions will they attack a random tower of the winning side or the strongest one of the winning side? Lets say they attack an Elyos castle, will the Asmodians be able to fight along side with them to take over that castle? Or as I stated above, since the castle at first were theirs, will they attack the Asmodians too cause they are trying to take it back for themselves.

Although we have heard about Balaur intervention in Abyss battles, I (for one) have never heard about intervention during castle sieges. Of course, there's a possibility I may have overlooked this.

Originally Posted by SoraNashimi

One last thing to mention is that it will most likely take raids to take over these castles, maybe 3 groups minimum but It may all verywell depend on the Strategy of the players. I don't think it has been said yet that there will be a barrier to prevent the enemy flying into the castle itself so with that in mind the Flying System can be fun for an ambush on all sides, maybe a group inside as a distraction while the outside forces destroy the defences, alot of things are possible which seem pretty cool to me.

So yeah lets see what everyone thinks on how the Abyss will be since the second CBT hasn't started yet and it's not really well known

And no, flying is disabled. Each castle has an Aetheric Field (magic force field) around it as a default setting, and it restricts flight around the castle. However, because they can still infiltrate the castle, players can use the Field strategically.

For further information about Castle Sieges and the Abyss, see the articles I wrote here and here, respectively.

[Calindor]

I have heard the Balaur will be showing up at sieges. Ken Choi described it in his interview...for example if the Asmo and Elyos show up at a siege, the Baular will come (they drop out of the sky from those ships), and they will either ally 1 side, or attack both and try take the castle for themselves....Kind of used as a server balancing tool. I think the place you will see them most is at sieges. The balaur also control all the castles when the game first launches.

[Ziaku]

Hmmm, So say the elyos start the first siege on a castle that the balaur control... can the asmodians interupt the fight once the elyos engage?

[Calindor]

Yes, and if the Asmo own a castle and the Elyos fight, the Balaur can interrupt

Its a 3 way war and the key is you never know what the Balaur are going to do, and the enemy faction can do whatever it wants.

[Ziaku]

Well it sounds like the abyss is going to be quite the struggle... I wonder if in the future they will add other means of pvpve to the abyss or just in general. But not like the crappy WoW BGs >.< they get too boring.

[Calindor]

Hmmm, well the constant ganking, raiding, sieging and just random encounters of enemies should be enought ot keep everyone busy. However if they could think of something else to add it would be cool. However since you get bonuses from PvP, there should never be an instance/arena that lets you farm this....Being able to farm BG and get gear from it in WoW is extremely stupid imo, but there is no real world PvP in that game anymore so it doesnt really matter.

Aion's main focus is PvP and confrontation out in the open inside the Abyss, and if some arena game was introduced it would completely destroy that. I also wouldnt be suprised if you didnt get any PvP bonuses during sieges. In L2 you dont really get bonuses from PvP except the satisfaction from killing your enemies...but in sieges or arenas, your PvP score doesnt increase.

[Ziaku]

Hmm i think you get bonuses from any pvp business in Aion. But I don't see why an arena thing would be bad.. not like instanced but some what of a scheduled tournament and the winner would receive rewards.. like once a week or whatever...but hey we can sit and throw ideas at eachother as much as we want still not gonna change the fact that the game looks to be amazing..

Damn we need this.

[Calindor]

Well a scheduled arena thing would be nice..and afaik the arena in Aion is just for fun/practise, there is no benefit. A prearranged arena tourney is fine, but if you make it casual like WoW's arena/bg what incentive will people have to go fight in the open world. You shouldnt be able to play hours a day and never have to leave a town.

One of the main reasons I'm insterested in Aion is that I'm expecting PvP to be found everywhere in the Abyss....From sieges, to meeting the enemy at raid bosses, meeting them in the middle of the quest to simple gank parties just out hunting PvP points....Kind of like L2's style PvP, with the gameplay and features WoW...it will be better than both. If everyone is farming dungeons and farming PvP in arenas, you might aswell be playing Guild Wars or something.

[Ziaku]

A prearranged arena tourney is fine, but if you make it casual like WoW's arena/bg what incentive will people have to go fight in the open world. You shouldnt be able to play hours a day and never have to leave a town.

Well of course I'd speculate it'd only be once in a while, probably sundays or what not, and in different places in the world for each side maybe. Which would still give people a reason to travel from the towns and cities.

One of the main reasons I'm insterested in Aion is that I'm expecting PvP to be found everywhere in the Abyss....From sieges, to meeting the enemy at raid bosses, meeting them in the middle of the quest to simple gank parties just out hunting PvP points....Kind of like L2's style PvP, with the gameplay and features WoW...it will be better than both. If everyone is farming dungeons and farming PvP in arenas, you might aswell be playing Guild Wars or something.

Oh yeah, I'm anxious for the full world pvp, not instanced junk. Its good for the communities as well, more interaction, more fighting, more friendships... and in the abyss can the 2 separate factions communicate with one another? That would bring a cool feel to the PvP, like in L2 you could talk to your opponents unlike WoW where its orchish or common you feel like you're kill an animal or alien or something. but yeah i am hoping that the PvP is everywhere in the abyss as well.

[Calindor]

I would love to be able to talk, but I dont think you can. It gives a better sense of community. I can only hope ppl will be active on the forums. I want a sense of who my enemy is, be able to recognize them and their clan...I have no sense of that in WoW...some guy i run into out in the world i will probably never see again. And in BG its inter server now which gives even less of a sense.

[Ziaku]

Yesir. judging by the activeness of this forum alone with its generally good community i'm sure the forums will continue to be just about or more active on launch.

Did you notice me and you are like.. making the thread >.>

[SoraNashimi]

Originally Posted by AznKenshin

As of now, the only official "answer" I can give you is when the balance of power has become uneven. In other words, when one faction is overwhelming the other, the Balaur will intervene to level it out. This is most prominently depicted in the G-STAR 2007 Trailer released a while ago.



Although we have heard about Balaur intervention in Abyss battles, I (for one) have never heard about intervention during castle sieges. Of course, there's a possibility I may have overlooked this.



And no, flying is disabled. Each castle has an Aetheric Field (magic force field) around it as a default setting, and it restricts flight around the castle. However, because they can still infiltrate the castle, players can use the Field strategically.

For further information about Castle Sieges and the Abyss, see the articles I wrote here and here, respectively.

Seemed to have missed this somewhere, but thx for the info ^^

Originally Posted by lyankyj

1 single segment of the Abyss (which will be opened in the second stage of ccbt) has 9 castles, so you could only imagine how many segments and castles are actually there.

Feel free to continue the discussion in one of these threads:
Abyss
Abyss #2

Wow thats going to be alot...Well atleast ya wont have to worry about the top guilds taking over all 7 castles that I thought there were before =p