Most wanted changes by Korean beta testers.

[SaroVati]

Lol not to be a grave-digger or anything, but seriously, why do people want swimming implemented and everything else to suit THEIR tastes? I mean seriously, I personally do a bit of game programming as a hobby (still in school), and adding a WHOLE new system in about 2-3 months and expecting it to be amazing is just ridiculous. Yes, the gamers can decide to stop playing the game, and the makers have to attempt to please them, but stop asking for the impossible lol. If they are working on the swimming system/underwater battle right now, chances are they will have a decent system running before the official release.

Just my thoughts on some peoples comments lol.

[RenegadeAngel]

Originally Posted by SaroVati

Lol not to be a grave-digger or anything, but seriously, why do people want swimming implemented and everything else to suit THEIR tastes? I mean seriously, I personally do a bit of game programming as a hobby (still in school), and adding a WHOLE new system in about 2-3 months and expecting it to be amazing is just ridiculous. Yes, the gamers can decide to stop playing the game, and the makers have to attempt to please them, but stop asking for the impossible lol. If they are working on the swimming system/underwater battle right now, chances are they will have a decent system running before the official release.

Just my thoughts on some peoples comments lol.

The basics of swimming are already implemented, but really the only reason people wanted the basics of being able to swim was to add realism to the game. I do pretty much agree with you, though.

[BahamutKaiser]

Gameplay emersion is what makes the game so sweet. Perhaps we could go back to the 2D sprites and recognize why all these visual and operational enhancements are neccessary. People want to experience a fantasy, and a good fantasy is a completely functional world, with it's own reality, opportunities and limitations. Being able to swim, jump, attack and defend in lifelike manners, communicate, and anything else in a game whether it be pivotal or simply viceral is a means to enjoy a fantasy, and modern achievements in technology are expected to be available.

Albert Einstein once said that once a mind grows, it can never return to it's previous size. Likewise, once the player base unviels a new gameplay element, they never want to go without it, reguardless of how small or viceral it may seem. Just watch, in 3 years, no 2 years, nobody will want to play a new MMO which does not have advanced character creation. They will be like, "What!?!?, I can't give my dude a huge chest and a tiny waist like Popeye, this game blows!".

[Otium]

Originally Posted by RenegadeAngel

The basics of swimming are already implemented, but really the only reason people wanted the basics of being able to swim was to add realism to the game. I do pretty much agree with you, though.

It's not only about realism, it's about having other game possibilities besides aerial and ground. It's kinda ridiculous that a 2008 MMORPG doesn't have swimming implemented, and the fact that we can fly in game doesn't really work as an excuse to not present a solid under-water world, that I would tremendously like to explore.

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Albert Einstein once said that once a mind grows, it can never return to it's previous size.

Albert Einstein would like to see swimming in Aion.

[Fiend]

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Just watch, in 3 years, no 2 years, nobody will want to play a new MMO which does not have advanced character creation. They will be like, "What!?!?, I can't give my dude a huge chest and a tiny waist like Popeye, this game blows!".

I'm already there. Without advanced character creation I tend to get tired of the stock designs that are available. Especially if too many people choose the same face/hair/etc because they're the 'best looking' ones.

I actually already want free flight to be in every game I play as well. After playing a couple games that allow the character to have flying mounts (not just WoW), I really hope each upcoming game features this form of travel. It presents an extremely effective method for exploration and helps a character see how the area they are in fits into the larger world.

I wouldn't refuse to play a game that doesn't have either of these features, but I most certainly look for them. Luckily Aion will have both and should be claiming my attention for quite awhile.

[SaroVati]

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Gameplay emersion is what makes the game so sweet. Perhaps we could go back to the 2D sprites and recognize why all these visual and operational enhancements are neccessary. People want to experience a fantasy, and a good fantasy is a completely functional world, with it's own reality, opportunities and limitations. Being able to swim, jump, attack and defend in lifelike manners, communicate, and anything else in a game whether it be pivotal or simply viceral is a means to enjoy a fantasy, and modern achievements in technology are expected to be available.

Albert Einstein once said that once a mind grows, it can never return to it's previous size. Likewise, once the player base unviels a new gameplay element, they never want to go without it, reguardless of how small or viceral it may seem. Just watch, in 3 years, no 2 years, nobody will want to play a new MMO which does not have advanced character creation. They will be like, "What!?!?, I can't give my dude a huge chest and a tiny waist like Popeye, this game blows!".

Lol I agree with you that you MUST have new features or else your game won't be very popular, but if we are talking about realism, there's alot of things besides swimming they could implement. A good fantasy is a functional world? If we are talking about functional worlds, half of the things already implemented in the game don't really follow the rules of the world lol.

[Livvy]

This is what the keyboard turners often say themselves, yet none of them have been able to show results. Clicking is one thing, but keyboard turning means you are just completely hopeless.

I knew a guy who was in a top 4 guild in guild wars -LuM - and he clicked his skills ( he used wasd for movement and clicked his skills ) . So the argument you can't PvP well with that system is bogus .It's just about what you're used to ( or what works best for you) .

[Cylph]

Guild wars is easy period

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Livvy

I knew a guy who was in a top 4 guild in guild wars -LuM - and he clicked his skills ( he used wasd for movement and clicked his skills ) . So the argument you can't PvP well with that system is bogus .It's just about what you're used to ( or what works best for you) .

That's how I roll.

Originally Posted by Cylph

Guild wars is easy period

Aww, come on now, it's not easy when you only get to choose 8 skills. WoW players have it easy. Just look at how many tiny 5x5pixel buttons that somehow mean different somethings are on their screens at once!

[Livvy]

Guild wars is easy period

Try getting into the semi-final of the $100,000 world championship guild vs. guild series . That's what that guild did . Then come back and say Guild wars is easy .

[Zyuu]

Originally Posted by SaroVati

Lol not to be a grave-digger or anything, but seriously, why do people want swimming implemented and everything else to suit THEIR tastes? I mean seriously, I personally do a bit of game programming as a hobby (still in school), and adding a WHOLE new system in about 2-3 months and expecting it to be amazing is just ridiculous. Yes, the gamers can decide to stop playing the game, and the makers have to attempt to please them, but stop asking for the impossible lol. If they are working on the swimming system/underwater battle right now, chances are they will have a decent system running before the official release.

Just my thoughts on some peoples comments lol.

Luckily developers ignore people like this most of the time. Thank god for developers with a plan and a vision. It would be terrible if the dev's listened too much to players. Sometimes, sure. But not too often.

[RenegadeAngel]

Originally Posted by Zyuu

Luckily developers ignore people like this most of the time. Thank god for developers with a plan and a vision. It would be terrible if the dev's listened too much to players. Sometimes, sure. But not too often.

True, otherwise you'd be creating the Frankenstein of MMORPGs.

[Aeshec]

This list is extremely helpful! Thanks Irisviel.

[Shilenne]

Originally Posted by RenegadeAngel

True, otherwise you'd be creating the Frankenstein of MMORPGs.

LOL omg, best thing I've seen on this thread as of now.

[Xemnas]

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Gameplay emersion is what makes the game so sweet. Perhaps we could go back to the 2D sprites and recognize why all these visual and operational enhancements are neccessary. People want to experience a fantasy, and a good fantasy is a completely functional world, with it's own reality, opportunities and limitations. Being able to swim, jump, attack and defend in lifelike manners, communicate, and anything else in a game whether it be pivotal or simply viceral is a means to enjoy a fantasy, and modern achievements in technology are expected to be available.

Albert Einstein once said that once a mind grows, it can never return to it's previous size. Likewise, once the player base unviels a new gameplay element, they never want to go without it, reguardless of how small or viceral it may seem. Just watch, in 3 years, no 2 years, nobody will want to play a new MMO which does not have advanced character creation. They will be like, "What!?!?, I can't give my dude a huge chest and a tiny waist like Popeye, this game blows!".

funny you say that, I've had friends say that about a couple of other MMORPGS/Console games before lol.