Females and the reverse armor rule

[Fleiva]

Actually in L2, Orc males were as naked (in many armor sets) as Dark elven females, didn't see any guy complaining about that, hell, take a look at orc shamans swimming.

You girls and some guys just should get a more relaxed pose at all of this, putting focus on wether your char's armor doesn't make sense in tolkien's world is something you shouldn't be doing, it's all of this "im the victim" attitude that creates sexism imho. I don't care if your char wears less or if mine has its ***** hanging, im not gonna be jerking at your online pixels.

[Disrupter]

Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!

[Ipmia]

Originally Posted by Fleiva

Actually in L2, Orc males were as naked (in many armor sets) as Dark elven females, didn't see any guy complaining about that, hell, take a look at orc shamans swimming.

L2 Fashion

[Howling]

Originally Posted by Fleiva

it's all of this "im the victim" attitude that creates sexism imho. I don't care if your char wears less or if mine has its ***** hanging, im not gonna be jerking at your online pixels.

+1 omfgwtfbbq this thread is silly

[Nebel]

Originally Posted by Fleiva

You girls and some guys just should get a more relaxed pose at all of this, putting focus on wether your char's armor doesn't make sense in tolkien's world is something you shouldn't be doing, it's all of this "im the victim" attitude that creates sexism imho. I don't care if your char wears less or if mine has its ***** hanging, im not gonna be jerking at your online pixels.

......yeah..........

[Kaldur]

Originally Posted by Disrupter

Thank you Mario! But our princess is in another castle!

1UP!!!!! ^^b

[Kattrina]

I know it's been said, but hopefully this issue will be resolved by Aion giving you the ability to customize armor and such like that. Actually, I have no idea if it's been said or not. I don't have the mental willpower to read pages 2-10 of this thread. I've been just way too busy and stressed out. Hahaha.

As the lady pointed out when she first posted, it's not about the sexism, it's just about the feel of the game. In WoW, I always liked my characters in the really bulky armor. In fact, I never felt the armor was bulky enough. Why? I just think girls are cute in huge armor o_O

I've always wanted a game to have an armored dress though. Something like Saber:

[Nebel]

Originally Posted by Kattrina

I've always wanted a game to have an armored dress though. Something like Saber:

Like WoW's Paladin tier 2? I always liked that one.

[Yame]

Where is the victim attitude here? I am giving my opinion about something that bothers me in some games which I am hoping Aion will not follow. I said a thousand times I don't feel offended or objectified, I simply am not usually attracted to games that do that.

I'm not the one making a big deal about this. I actually never even gave this issue any thought at all (because I never played any MMOs like that) until very recently when I was looking at a thread on a different forum about which sex people choose to play, and I noticed that there were a fair share of girls who choose to play male characters solely due to this armor issue. Of course not all girls have a problem with this, some might even like it. A lot of guys might like it, too. But I saw an issue when I read that post, and when I put myself in those girls' positions I realized that I fully agreed with them.

So you can disagree, but realize that for some people out there this is a problem, and respect that opinion.

I'm not gonna argue this anymore because really, it's a circular argument, and some of you will never think it's sexist, and will never think that the "realism" argument is valid, or will keep insisting that sex sells and therefore this should stay. You'll either agree with me or you won't, I invited everybody to share their opinions and here we are, what's so silly about that?

It seems though that some of you don't really get what I have a problem with, and it's like all of a sudden I have a problem with nudity or with being less than fully covered in a game, period. This is not what I mean, so let me be ultra-specific now. As newbies, we all start with only a couple pieces of armor, that makes perfect sense. We can all start naked and I'd be perfectly fine with that. By the time we are at maximum level though, all our armor slots should be filled. Then we get better and better armor sets, and they will tend to look cooler, more elaborate. There may be stylistic differences between races and classes which are perfectly acceptable, and perhaps even stylistic differences between genders within those races and classes, which are acceptable as well. What wouldn't be acceptable to me though, would be for armor sets to consistently cover less as they level up, and in a distasteful and overtly sexual manner... perhaps looking something like this [spoiler][/spoiler], for females only, while the same isn't happening to male armor sets.

[Kaldur]

...which Porn MMO is this from? Didn't know strippers ruled war torn battlegrounds o.O

[Howling]

Originally Posted by Yame

Where is the victim attitude here? I am giving my opinion about something that bothers me in some games which I am hoping Aion will not follow. I said a thousand times I don't feel offended or objectified, I simply am not usually attracted to games that do that.

I'm not the one making a big deal about this. I actually never even gave this issue any thought at all (because I never played any MMOs like that) until very recently when I was looking at a thread on a different forum about which sex people choose to play, and I noticed that there were a fair share of girls who choose to play male characters solely due to this armor issue. Of course not all girls have a problem with this, some might even like it. A lot of guys might like it, too. But I saw an issue when I read that post, and when I put myself in those girls' positions I realized that I fully agreed with them.

So you can disagree, but realize that for some people out there this is a problem, and respect that opinion.

I'm not gonna argue this anymore because really, it's a circular argument, and some of you will never think it's sexist, and will never think that the "realism" argument is valid, or will keep insisting that sex sells and therefore this should stay. You'll either agree with me or you won't, I invited everybody to share their opinions and here we are, what's so silly about that?

It seems though that some of you don't really get what I have a problem with, and it's like all of a sudden I have a problem with nudity or with being less than fully covered in a game, period. This is not what I mean, so let me be ultra-specific now. As newbies, we all start with only a couple pieces of armor, that makes perfect sense. We can all start naked and I'd be perfectly fine with that. By the time we are at maximum level though, all our armor slots should be filled. Then we get better and better armor sets, and they will tend to look cooler, more elaborate. There may be stylistic differences between races and classes which are perfectly acceptable, and perhaps even stylistic differences between genders within those races and classes, which are acceptable as well. What wouldn't be acceptable to me though, would be for armor sets to consistently cover less as they level up, and in a distasteful and overtly sexual manner... perhaps looking something like this [spoiler][/spoiler], for females only, while the same isn't happening to male armor sets.

Sure, the male chars never get anything remotely revealing...

And the char screenie you picked there, I believe is a dark elf, and the lore of dark elfs is that they are seductive.. so that kind of armour fits their race....

Edit: And I've already stated womens armour HAS to be different because women ARE different.. They move in different ways, thus will always wear either lighter armour, or less armour in non-vital places. Guys don't have that, thus guys armour can be hugely bulky and cover their entire bodies..

[Disrupter]

I don't know whats going on here but that green dude is wearing assless chaps and I declare the thread pretty much destroyed and over.

[Yame]

Originally Posted by Howling

Sure, the male chars never get anything remotely revealing...

And the char screenie you picked there, I believe is a dark elf, and the lore of dark elfs is that they are seductive.. so that kind of armour fits their race....

hahaha sorry but when I saw those male dark elf screenies, I had to laugh out loud

Anyway yea, so like I said before, stylistic differences between races and whatnot are cool, some are more seductive and more brutal than others or whatever. Between classes, same thing. Between genders, sure. But it's how far it goes, and how consistently.

[Howling]

Originally Posted by Koji

Morbo displeased with this thread. I will destroy you.

lol... We got owned

Originally Posted by Yame

hahaha sorry but when I saw those male dark elf screenies, I had to laugh out loud

My screens were Orcs i think

But it just shows that male chars are not immune to nudity

[Acyd]

You can close threads!?

Nope! =)

Awww you edited it.