Anyone else think this game is Lineage 3?

[Scyris]

I ask this because I bet Aion is just going to be another crappy korean grinder like lineage 2 is/was. Anyone know anything saying its not? The game does look good and I love the fact you can fly, but, I seen the video's and the combat looks clunky like lineage 2 does. Thus I worry that the grind will be just as horrid and boring.

[Fleiva]

It's not hard to do a bit of research, please, look at the articles section, faq, and beta reports from Irisviel/Zyuu/Shillene/New Satan, all of those state that Aion is not a grinder, but a beautiful game where you can level up just by doing quests (which amazingly aren't as dumb as in most of the games, they have cut scenes and great story under them)

YouTube - Aion CBT2 Elyos Daeva Quest Full Video *Spoiler*

YouTube - Aion CBT2 Elyos Daeva Quest Full Video *Spoiler*

About the combat, how is it clunky? Have you watched CBT2 videos? Check them out, It was compared to WoW's combat by many people.

Also, check out this developer interview series

[RenegadeAngel]

NCsoft already stated it won't be as bad of a grind. There was a problem with this in CB2, but they claim that the Abyss, released in CB3 will help solve this problem. There are still problems with the top and bottom animations, which is to be expected, since I think that would be a rather complex system. I think all we can really do is wait and see.

[ern3sto]

omg yet another some1 asking $***, u can be sure aion wont be a grinder

thread should be at graveyard the next time u search for it^^

btw: i take on that bet of urs, how much do u want to loose?

[Zanion]

As Fleiva said REASEARCH is the keyword


oh jesus...i hate everytime someone tries to compare Aion with L2 it may be the same company behind but i think they are on a different road and it's a much better road they are taking

[Scyris]

Ahh well thats good to hear . Though now I dislike the idea it might be another World of crapcraft clone/wannabe. Mind you it looks way better. I'll love to try it out when beta starts and go from there. Nice to hear its not a grinder but I hope it doesn't force you into the abyss to level up at a decent speed. I bet the abyss is prob a pvpve dungeon, which I dislike, because in another game called Neosteam there is something simmlar and high lvs go around ganking low levels all day and they can't get anywhere. Which just makes it no fun. Btw just FYI I hate WoW and usually any game that tries to resemble it. Its why I dislike Lotro and Age of Conan (After tortage the game feels like wow).

[RenegadeAngel]

That could be true, but the Abyss is supposed to be a multi-layered, very large area with monsters in it that would take much more than one person to kill. I don't think it would be very easy to just wait around in their all day waiting for low level players, and since they'd have to be the opposite faction, doing that could lead to warfare.

[Scyris]

Originally Posted by Fleiva

It's not hard to do a bit of research, please, look at the articles section, faq, and beta reports from Irisviel/Zyuu/Shillene/New Satan, all of those state that Aion is not a grinder, but a beautiful game where you can level up just by doing quests (which amazingly aren't as dumb as in most of the games, they have cut scenes and great story under them)

YouTube - Aion CBT2 Elyos Daeva Quest Full Video *Spoiler*

About the combat, how is it clunky? Have you watched CBT2 videos? Check them out, It was compared to WoW's combat by many people.

Also, check out this developer interview series

The video's I seen where the first ones released, never seen CBT2 videos till now, I take back what I say about it being clunky, they fixed it.

Originally Posted by RenegadeAngel

That could be true, but the Abyss is supposed to be a multi-layered, very large area with monsters in it that would take much more than one person to kill. I don't think it would be very easy to just wait around in their all day waiting for low level players, and since they'd have to be the opposite faction, doing that could lead to warfare.

Thats great. In Neosteam the area's are very small so you easly run into the other faction and all out war ensue's. Man I love the flying though, seen that video that was posted in this thread. I want the game now badly. Last game I played that had flying you can fight with was Perfect World.

[Fleiva]

Originally Posted by Scyris

Ahh well thats good to hear . Though now I dislike the idea it might be another World of crapcraft clone/wannabe. Mind you it looks way better. I'll love to try it out when beta starts and go from there. Nice to hear its not a grinder but I hope it doesn't force you into the abyss to level up at a decent speed. I bet the abyss is prob a pvpve dungeon, which I dislike, because in another game called Neosteam there is something simmlar and high lvs go around ganking low levels all day and they can't get anywhere. Which just makes it no fun. Btw just FYI I hate WoW and usually any game that tries to resemble it. Its why I dislike Lotro and Age of Conan (After tortage the game feels like wow).

Im almost sure many things will remind you WoW's ones, however, the daily activity endgame is going to differ a lot, and that's what makes you feel it's a clone or not. While in WoW you wait for the raiding day and while that happens you level alts or go to arena for some pvp ranks, in Aion you'll be killing mobs in a pvp zone, going to the opposite's faction lands through rifts to kill their NPCs and conquering castles for your faction, while you'll be raiding as soon as those mobs spawn since they are in open world, thus requiring pvp competition.

We can see Aion might be a bit more group dependant than WoW, and deffinetly more pvp dependant.

About low level ganking, that's not happening in Aion, since there is no complete freedom to walk on the opposite land's fields, NPCs will try to kill you, and sneaking from the rift zone to the lowbie zone is going to be quite hard to do since everyone will chase you. And, even if you manage to arrive, there might be no pvp in that zone, the first zone is channeled, and a high level from the opposite faction might be waiting there.

[Scyris]

Originally Posted by Fleiva

Im almost sure many things will remind you WoW's ones, however, the daily activity endgame is going to differ a lot, and that's what makes you feel it's a clone or not. While in WoW you wait for the raiding day and while that happens you level alts or go to arena for some pvp ranks, in Aion you'll be killing mobs in a pvp zone, going to the opposite's faction lands through rifts to kill their NPCs and conquering castles for your faction, while you'll be raiding as soon as those mobs spawn since they are in open world, thus requiring pvp competition.

We can see Aion might be a bit more group dependant than WoW, and deffinetly more pvp dependant.

About low level ganking, that's not happening in Aion, since there is no complete freedom to walk on the opposite land's fields, NPCs will try to kill you, and sneaking from the rift zone to the lowbie zone is going to be quite hard to do since everyone will chase you. And, even if you manage to arrive, there might be no pvp in that zone, the first zone is channeled, and a high level from the opposite faction might be waiting there.

Well thats good that they though of this. Well, time to hope beta starts soonish and I get in ^^.

[Ayanami]

Originally Posted by Scyris

Well thats good that they though of this. Well, time to hope beta starts soonish and I get in ^^.

Apparently beta isn't going to get to us until much later in the year. *Depressed face*

[DeiF]

You can watch these videos to get a glimpse of how Aion quests are:


In this quest you transform into a parrot to spy a pirate ship:

YouTube - Aion - parrot quest

YouTube - Aion - parrot quest

I don't know what's going on here, but you can see that some quests have cutscenes:

YouTube - Aion - Headless Statue Quest

YouTube - Aion - Headless Statue Quest

They know that they were criticized in the past for making grind games and they are trying now to break that sort of thinking, so they are adding a lot of content to Aion.

[Pancak3s]

Yep this is yet another grinder.
Yep combat is clunky point and click.
Yep just another lineage clone.
Give up all hope.
Screw the search button and FAQ sticky.

[Sensai]

Originally Posted by Pancak3s

Yep this is yet another grinder.
Yep combat is clunky point and click.
Yep just another lineage clone.
Give up all hope.
Screw the search button and FAQ sticky.

Hawt! Lets all go to Gludio and Greif noobz!

[Krystoffer]

It seems NC is learning. To keep players from feeling like every quest is a kill something quest, they are attaching stories to them just like Guild Wars. So now your following a story and it could possibly be Multi-Tiered. Which would help refrain from having a complete linear feel. Not to mention that PvP will add more of an affect the world (server) instead of just being large duels.