Do you crash a lot during a castle siege?

tpg0007 · 10-01-2009, 12:41 PM

Here's a post from the ATI forum that sums up the problem nicely:

Quote:

Having read all that I decided to play around with that special Process Explorer they messed around with,
and I watched "Virtual Size" for Aion.bin.

I went to Eltnen Fortress, and saw that the application reserved itself a bigger chunk of Virtual Size, kept running around like crazy watching as many people as possible, and the "Virtual Size" kept going up to almost 2GB.

Then poof, the CrySystem.dll error

Aion.bin reserved itself up to 2 038 952K

The second it tries to increase that size to over 2GB the application closes with the dreaded CrySystem.dll error... That's why it tries to write to adress 00000000 as it's trying to write outside the 2GB boundary, and it's either not allowed by Windows, or it can't handle it itself.

Numerous users have contacted NCSoft and even their video card makers about this issue already, and have been either shrugged off and pointed elsewhere or told completely useless things like "try a different video card." We need everyone to pester NCSoft until they at least acknowledge the problem.

Reducing the memory usage by turning down details will mitigate the crashes but is not an acceptable fix. It'll also be interesting to know if K-Aion has the same issue, as I can't imagine how that got out of beta testing (well, obviously a lot of things did...)

Please only vote if you have taken part in a castle siege.

Just trying to collect some data to see if there's a trend. Based on anecdotes the crashes don't seem to be tied to machine performance, though reducing graphic settings may reduce their frequency. Most of the time they occur with no predictability, as if the client simply gave up. Many people say they don' t recall crashing as frequently in such a situation on C-Aion or K-Aion.

Cocowoushi · 10-01-2009, 12:47 PM

I was crashing with all my details turned low and character models off. Video card's drivers are up to date, as is my OS.
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Zamav · 10-01-2009, 01:35 PM

I got 6GB ram, Aion crashes as soon as game reaches 1.7GB ram usage on a castle siege. Yes, I watched its usage from resource monitor as I crashed a lot.

Its probably the symptom of something else, not the cause, but it is quite interesting.

Edit: Vista x64 w/SP2 High end system. Settings doesn't really matter.

Putumayo · 10-01-2009, 01:37 PM

I know this has nothing to do with castles, but I crash a lot in Eltnen. That's the only place. Game just shuts down and windows tries to send an error report. =p Just like you said it "just gives up". I think its do to the mass population of ppl there atm though... riding it out to see.

Server Trin
windows 7

Edit: Participated in siege this weekend. Having same problem there as outlined by op.

tpg0007 · 10-02-2009, 12:36 PM

We need more votes on this.

zyzeast · 10-02-2009, 01:02 PM

seems to be some kind of memory leak in x64 OS, everytime i crashed i open task manager and aion is eating up close to 1.5gb of ram.

Cocowoushi · 10-02-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zyzeast

seems to be some kind of memory leak in x64 OS, everytime i crashed i open task manager and aion is eating up close to 1.5gb of ram.

I've seen this happen with mine too.
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Langel · 10-02-2009, 04:42 PM

I crashed as soon as I like entered the front gate, relog back on just to be automatic moved like a mile away. I just ended up camping stragglers from the other side as they come in until I got gang raped when my hide wore off

huntervictor44 · 10-02-2009, 04:49 PM

I crashed every time I tried to go into the main battle with many players present. Aion is normally using 1.4 gigs of memory and goes up to almost 1.8 at the crash. The log report also lists crysystem.dll. I have all my updates for Vista 64 , this only occurs during sieges, making them unplayable. This problem started in version 1.5 afaik, I didn't have these crashes in 1.0 and 1.2
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Arno · 10-02-2009, 04:56 PM

This and very low fps in sieges (even tho im just above recommended specs) will probably make me quit

Hitsuu · 10-02-2009, 10:52 PM

I get constant crashes in any town, any outpost, and siege, and i got ATI w/ 64x high end specs = 2.8G duo etc. i was SP1 and switched to SP2, thought it solved the problem and BOOM i started getting them again. I saw it happen once when i was lookin at my inventory and it had 3 grey boxes where items would be... maybe that could help them figure out what it is....

Trogdom · 10-02-2009, 11:02 PM

Constant crashes with an excellent computer. Pretty major problem among ATI users, fail on both ATI and NCsoft. NCsoft has a memory leak problem atm and no announcement on fix, which is awful.

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/tech...ati-cards.html

Putumayo · 10-05-2009, 02:10 PM

Bumping this thread. Having problems with this and so are many others. During siege/abyss and populated cities.

Kettle · 10-05-2009, 02:14 PM

Good poll. Please, as many people as possible answer honestly on this.

SmackyTheFrog · 10-05-2009, 02:15 PM

Quick bump.

I never crashed until last night when I *tried* to participate in my first castle siege/defense.

As soon as all the Asmos popped on the screen I froze and crashed.

Set all graphics to minimum/lowest setting and I lasted longer but same end result.

Tried Shift+F12 and lasted longer yet but same end result.

System:

i7 920
6GB Corsair XMS
285 GTX x2 In SLI (just d/led new drivers today so I'll see if that helps)

Hope NCSoft Fixes this soon... or at the very least acknowledges it...

View Poll Results: How often do you crash during a castle siege?
Constant crashes, Win7/Vista, high-end spec	647	42.15%
Constant crashes, Win7/Vista, mid-range spec	173	11.27%
Constant crashes, XP, high-end spec	45	2.93%
Constant crashes, XP, mid-range spec	28	1.82%
Moderate crashes, Win7/Vista, high-end spec	187	12.18%
Moderate crashes, Win7/Vista, mid-range spec	101	6.58%
Moderate crashes, XP, high-end spec	43	2.80%
Moderate crashes, XP, mid-range spec	29	1.89%
Few or no crashes, Win7/Vista, high-end spec	73	4.76%
Few or no crashes, Win7/Vista, mid-range spec	70	4.56%
Few or no crashes, XP, high-end spec	62	4.04%
Few or no crashes, XP, mid-range spec	77	5.02%
Voters: 1535. You may not vote on this poll

10-01-2009, 01:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Putumayo Daeva Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Carolina Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Chanter Legion: Deviance Race: Elyos Server: Triniel	I know this has nothing to do with castles, but I crash a lot in Eltnen. That's the only place. Game just shuts down and windows tries to send an error report. =p Just like you said it "just gives up". I think its do to the mass population of ppl there atm though... riding it out to see. Server Trin windows 7 Edit: Participated in siege this weekend. Having same problem there as outlined by op. Last edited by Putumayo; 10-05-2009 at 03:17 PM..

10-02-2009, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
tpg0007 Great General Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 9 Thanked 75 Times in 24 Posts Character: Fran (as in The Nanny) Class: Ranger Legion: TopGoon Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	We need more votes on this. __________________

10-02-2009, 04:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Langel Daeva Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cardboard box in Arizona Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Lenalee Class: Ranger Legion: Regulus Zaibatsu Race: Asmodians Server: Ariel	I crashed as soon as I like entered the front gate, relog back on just to be automatic moved like a mile away. I just ended up camping stragglers from the other side as they come in until I got gang raped when my hide wore off __________________ 弓星 THE SHOOTING★STAR

10-02-2009, 11:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
Trogdom Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alabama Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Trogdom Class: Assassin Legion: Triad of the Trogdor Race: Elyos Server: Zikel	Constant crashes with an excellent computer. Pretty major problem among ATI users, fail on both ATI and NCsoft. NCsoft has a memory leak problem atm and no announcement on fix, which is awful. http://www.aionsource.com/forum/tech...ati-cards.html __________________ Let the world tremble in what I am about to accomplish.

10-01-2009, 12:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cocowoushi Great General Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rhode Island, USA Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Class: Chanter Race: Elyos Server: Triniel	I was crashing with all my details turned low and character models off. Video card's drivers are up to date, as is my OS. Posted via Mobile Device

10-01-2009, 01:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zamav Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jita Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Larwien Class: Chanter Legion: Brujah Race: Asmodians Server: Gorgos	I got 6GB ram, Aion crashes as soon as game reaches 1.7GB ram usage on a castle siege. Yes, I watched its usage from resource monitor as I crashed a lot. Its probably the symptom of something else, not the cause, but it is quite interesting. Edit: Vista x64 w/SP2 High end system. Settings doesn't really matter.

10-02-2009, 01:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
zyzeast Daeva Join Date: Apr 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Elyos	seems to be some kind of memory leak in x64 OS, everytime i crashed i open task manager and aion is eating up close to 1.5gb of ram.

10-02-2009, 04:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
huntervictor44 Star Officer Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Jersey Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Class: Cleric Race: Elyos Server: Azphel	I crashed every time I tried to go into the main battle with many players present. Aion is normally using 1.4 gigs of memory and goes up to almost 1.8 at the crash. The log report also lists crysystem.dll. I have all my updates for Vista 64 , this only occurs during sieges, making them unplayable. This problem started in version 1.5 afaik, I didn't have these crashes in 1.0 and 1.2 Posted via Mobile Device

10-02-2009, 04:56 PM	#10 (permalink)
Arno Soldier Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Ranger Race: Asmodians	This and very low fps in sieges (even tho im just above recommended specs) will probably make me quit

10-02-2009, 10:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
Hitsuu Human Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Elyos	I get constant crashes in any town, any outpost, and siege, and i got ATI w/ 64x high end specs = 2.8G duo etc. i was SP1 and switched to SP2, thought it solved the problem and BOOM i started getting them again. I saw it happen once when i was lookin at my inventory and it had 3 grey boxes where items would be... maybe that could help them figure out what it is....

10-05-2009, 02:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
Putumayo Daeva Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Carolina Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Chanter Legion: Deviance Race: Elyos Server: Triniel	Bumping this thread. Having problems with this and so are many others. During siege/abyss and populated cities.

10-05-2009, 02:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kettle Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 11 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts Character: Kettle Class: Spiritmaster Legion: Operation Eskimo Race: Elyos Server: Undecided	Good poll. Please, as many people as possible answer honestly on this.

10-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
SmackyTheFrog Daeva Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Tencendur Class: Gladiator Legion: Knights of the Two Moons Race: Elyos Server: Vaizel	Quick bump. I never crashed until last night when I tried to participate in my first castle siege/defense. As soon as all the Asmos popped on the screen I froze and crashed. Set all graphics to minimum/lowest setting and I lasted longer but same end result. Tried Shift+F12 and lasted longer yet but same end result. System: i7 920 6GB Corsair XMS 285 GTX x2 In SLI (just d/led new drivers today so I'll see if that helps) Hope NCSoft Fixes this soon... or at the very least acknowledges it...

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