Directfeed from Korean forums, Take Two

[BloodGem]

Bot complaints were lessened when NCsoft announced that they'll crack down bots, as many players took "wait and see" stance. However, seeing that nothing is being done (still seeing same bots in same areas), Korean players are protesting now more loudly than ever, desperately trying to persuade NCsoft from letting Aion die from bots like they did with Rohan (a NCsoft MMO that is currently a massive botfest).

Rohan is made by YNK Interactive. But the bot fact is true, i played on the first server, Torian, and even now after 3-4 months since i left the game, the same guild runs the main towns and that guild is KOB aka King Of Botters, yep... they made a guild and were damn proud of it.

[Shoee]

thanks for the translation xD\

btw KOB stands for king of bloods.. not botters

[BloodGem]

Originally Posted by Shoee

thanks for the translation xD

btw KOB stands for king of bloods.. not botters

Yeah yeah, that's what they claimed but it didnt work out that way when they proudly claimed that all the guild uses bots.

[Zegram]

I wonder I they could just cap how much gold you could trade between players... think about it for a second currency is traded in game from gold farmer/bot to player. Why not limit how much money you can trade on a day to day basis if you cap it at lets say 10,000 (or whatever amount is low) then ppl could only buy a minuscule amount of gold per day and it would not be worth it. That may not eliminate item and resource botters but it would at least hinder some of the gold farmers and sellers. If that doesn't work why doesn't NCsoft just regulate the economy every once in a while when it gets out of hand. That being said I doubt they want to get rid of bots as bot accounts still generate actual income for the company it would be pretty silly of them to get rid of paying customers.

Who knows maybe bots are just a ploy of company's to generate more income... I mean I always wondered how on those gold selling websites ppl are able to accumulate that much gold, like you can buy millions of gold in certain games, yet when you play those games for real it takes weeks, months even to get any money really. Maybe its all a conspiracy and the company's are just selling gold themselves...

[Valkadesh]

Regarding spiritmasters and other issues, I'm beginning to think much of the QQ is out of context since we can't actually play the game ourselves. I see videos like this

YouTube - aion mass r vs r

YouTube - aion mass r vs r

and you know what I see? I see a whole bunch of people on the ground. Do I believe they need to do something to make sure we're not completely defenseless in the air? Sure. But it sounds like many are making the mistake of the game being balanced around 1v1 PvP and complaining about everything thusly rather than understanding their role in the overall battle, and accepting that sometimes things are situational. Trying to balance for 1v1 in a mass PvP game is folly, but at the same time most players are self centered and believe they should be the most powerful thing in the game bar none in every instance, so it's very hard to drive home the fact that sometimes, they won't be a one button pwn machine.

[HunterX]

Originally Posted by Valkadesh

But it sounds like many are making the mistake of the game being balanced around 1v1 PvP and complaining about everything thusly rather than understanding their role in the overall battle, and accepting that sometimes things are situational. Trying to balance for 1v1 in a mass PvP game is folly, but at the same time most players are self centered and believe they should be the most powerful thing in the game bar none in every instance, so it's very hard to drive home the fact that sometimes, they won't be a one button pwn machine.

I agree and I bet most of the whining is because of this...it is very tricky to balance a game for mass pvp and 1v1 without screwing something up in the process..balance will come but it'll take time.

[HarukaBanchou]

Very true, the whole balancing issue should wait until lvl 40, when most people get the bulk of their skills before any MAJOR changes are made. I mean summoners get an 15m AOE fear stigma that last 13-18s with 1min CD at 37. THAT'S what i call a REAL CC, instead of the single target root, sleep and Curse:tree that the sorcs get.

[The Ten]

Well, Elliot, if you want to not be called 'Doomsayer', just translate some positive threads too every now and then

[Riku]

More "copy and paste" I see. I'm just gonna skip reading the OP's post for now on because it really does not relate to what we in the west will get.

And yes OP I am playing the game and will make my own opinions about the state of the game and how its progressing as it matures over time.

Go to any games forum site and you can read the same thing you are posting.

[Kindred]

Originally Posted by Riku

More "copy and paste" I see. I'm just gonna skip reading the OP's post for now on because it really does not relate to what we in the west will get.

And yes OP I am playing the game and will make my own opinions about the state of the game and how its progressing as it matures over time.

Go to any games forum site and you can read the same thing you are posting.

If you look at it like that then nothing relates to what we in the west will get, and if we reported on nothing it'd be a pretty boring forum. At least this way we see how the game is developing and what NCSoft KR are doing currently. Don't be so naive in thinking that what we get will be nothing like the Korean version, it'll be exactly the same except for localisation. Watching the game unfold in the east is good hindsight for us.

[Ayase]

Originally Posted by Voramar

I kinda doubt they will do anything about the bots

It's being worked on, but finding new solutions takes time which is why you don't see a 24 hour turn-around. As I've said in every translation thread about bots before - we are still very determined to get rid of bots and things of that nature when we launch the game here, and are doing everything we can think of (and more!) to get prepared.

[sejml]

Thanx 4 this translation! 2 bad its bots /cry i really hope there wont be many in EU/US!

[Chu]

In my opinion, NCSoft would kill off most of those threads if they communicated a bit more than simply what they plan to do in their announcements.

Let the players know that it's going to take time. Tell them that there won't be an immediate turn around, but that they're not being ignored. If money is an issue, tell them so and they'll wait. Just saying "Yeah, we're going to sue some companies and ban the bot accounts" gives them the false hope that one day they'll wake up and the bots will be gone, instead of giving them the realistic view that those bots may still be there a month from now-- but maybe, there will be thirty bots missing.

Two weeks into the game and there's a bot problem? Sorry, I am NOT surprised-- there's already exploits for Aion out in English for crissake (although it's not a bot or a private server, and completely harmless, it still proves the point that things can and will be taken advantage of in the game coding). However, I know that bots can be prevented. I've seen it in other games. I hope NCSoft follows suit.

[Soarecu]

Originally Posted by Ayase

It's being worked on, but finding new solutions takes time which is why you don't see a 24 hour turn-around. As I've said in every translation thread about bots before - we are still very determinted to get rid of bots and things of that nature when we launch the game here, and are doing everything we can think of (and more!) to get prepared.

I really do not want to question your good intentions, but you do realize that those of us who have played L2 have seen such claims dozens of times before and we all know how that turned out, right?
I have a good feeling about Aion, but frankly given my past experience with NCSoft I do not expect anything significant to be done about bots.

[phyx]

ncsoft cant afford another failure after tabula rasa..i think they will get rid off the bots but its just take time