Directfeed from Korean forums, Take Two

[Chrome]

Well... when a protection failed, most people don't say "hey, let's use it again anyway. I bet it'll work now."

I am happy to read that NCsoft is putting a lot of energy into this, but having a special team of monks dedicated to pray at the temple, wishing that GG will finaly work as it's supposed to by who knows wich miracle, doesn't look very effective to me.

[FallenSpirit]

Originally Posted by Ayase

Actually, I haven't. I never worked on L2 and neither did anyone here in my team. I trust that you have your reasons for being sceptical however and there is very little I can do about it. We've got one chance to prove ourselves when we release the game, and our team is not really in the mood of letting anyone down.

Excuses, Excuses Excuses !!! come on man. We dont care if you didn't work on it. NCSoft is a groupe and you all represente it.



Needless to say but everyone that played 2 hours of L2 lost fate on what NCsoft is capable to do against bot. (meaby they are just hidding the fact they want them.) And ok, you never work on L2 does'nt mean you never played it and that you dont understand why are fate in NCSoft bot control is lacking. We just have one thing to say Yall better do something about it or else I greatly dought you'll get this game to become Epic. You may have all the ingredients for a great game but add poison (bots) and it still will die.

Sry but bots for me are the greatess flaw in any MMO.

I still can't wait to play it and thx for the translation.

[finalfight]

i forgot to thx Elliot for this translation, keep them up brow!!!

[DemonXaphan]

To all the nay sayers...give it a rest ok. NCWest has been doing it's best in L2 to eradicate bots but its a slow process that can never be a quick fix. It's good to see reports from the Korean site about this or that be it good or bad, but don't say it will be the same here because you have no idea if it will. No one really knows what will happen when Aion releases for retail here, we all have couple of months before we even play it, so who knows what issues will be the main problem at launch.

I'm pretty sure WoW had the same problems at start up and took them time before figuring things out for the betterment of the game. You guys/girls like to see the worse in a game even before it has a chance to be developed further, as many before me have said before wait till our release then lets let NCWest know what game issues are not working for us.

[finalfight]

Originally Posted by DemonXaphan

To all the nay sayers...give it a rest ok. NCWest has been doing it's best in L2 to eradicate bots but its a slow process that can never be a quick fix. It's good to see reports from the Korean site about this or that be it good or bad, but don't say it will be the same here because you have no idea if it will. No one really knows what will happen when Aion releases for retail here, we all have couple of months before we even play it, so who knows what issues will be the main problem at launch.

I'm pretty sure WoW had the same problems at start up and took them time before figuring things out for the betterment of the game. You guys/girls like to see the worse in a game even before it has a chance to be developed further, as many before me have said before wait till our release then lets let NCWest know what game issues are not working for us.

yes we did see it for many years, thats why we'r obcessed with BOT's and theyr policy's didnt worked for so long.
I give 2 week's for Aion, yes ill be playing it like i did in KOBT and i for sure will be very intent about botters, if i see anything botting i LEAVE the game and thats all, realy dont give any ****tard the time to excuse how they ill be working on it... since i have losted many years listening those same excuses. got it? kkthx

[Plastik]

if i see anything botting i LEAVE the game and thats all, realy dont give any ****tard the time to excuse how they ill be working on it...

You should stop browsing the internet finalfight. There's spyware and virus' all over it.

A little extreme don't you think? I play L2 too... i see botters every do. I report them and move along.

[Celebrity]

Hum, nice post, once i can't play the game there is nothing i can do, just wait they 'major' patch. But i would like to hear the post about bot comparing with wow. I have no problems in see this game compared to another mmo i'm familiar with.

It's pretty nice to see Korean players scream very laud about the game problems, so it means that if Nc still whant to make their way to success they will need to WORK on this game.

[finalfight]

Originally Posted by Plastik

You should stop browsing the internet finalfight. There's spyware and virus' all over it.

A little extreme don't you think? I play L2 too... i see botters every do. I report them and move along.

no dude im already playing other games, got CoD5 last week and playing WAR very often, i mean i giving Aion a try to make it worth PAYING MY 15 BUCK's!!!!

[Livvy]

Originally Posted by Ayase

It's being worked on, but finding new solutions takes time which is why you don't see a 24 hour turn-around. As I've said in every translation thread about bots before - we are still very determined to get rid of bots and things of that nature when we launch the game here, and are doing everything we can think of (and more!) to get prepared.

I hope this means you will use all means available to combat the bot accounts :

- adjust game economy ( less money dependency)
- ban accounts of bots ( and block the IP# associated with them )
- have strict penalty for goldbuyers
- implement measures to avoid use of automated playing ( anti-script code , limit use of macros etc. )

If you do all of the above you have a reasonable chance to achieve a decrease in the number of bots . Just tackling the supply side won't help at all.

[Plastik]

I'm not sure what NCWest will be doing, but i dont think they can alter gameplay mechanics (such as lowering the dependency on in-game currency).

As for banning accounts, that's pretty obvious, of course they'll try and do that.
Gameguard and such will try to prevent 3rd party usage (scripting).

Can't speak for gold buying, not sure how to track that securely.

[Livvy]

Originally Posted by Plastik

I'm not sure what NCWest will be doing, but i dont think they can alter gameplay mechanics (such as lowering the dependency on in-game currency).

As for banning accounts, that's pretty obvious, of course they'll try and do that.
Gameguard and such will try to prevent 3rd party usage (scripting).

Can't speak for gold buying, not sure how to track that securely.

Obviously NCsoft-west can't do that, but the developers in Korea need to do that ( before porting the game to the west ).

[anarcho]

Hehe, i know you (most likely) don't have a webpage for selling adena and so on. Just that the rumour of ncsoft having a website for selling adena and botting isn't actually unknown. Heard it often being said when we saw bots, since we actually felt like ncsoft couldn't care less.

Since NcWest is a new branch, it should start with a clean sheet. Sadly when most people hear the word NCsoft is games full of bots, and guildwars offcourse. Can't even get friends to try Lineage2 anymore since they just see bots and want to quit. and they feel ncsoft was lazy when they didn't implement (WASD) and that i can agree with.

[Anirk]

Originally Posted by Untrackable

This bot issue has been brought up many times but i was wondering how much the bots actually affect gameplay. Are they just an eyesore or do they actually cause problems for other players (ie taking your mobs, etc).

They ks all your mobs and they are usually higher level than you would be too so chances are theyll outdmg u

[Kaldur]

Thx for the article, Elliot. very interesting.

[t0yo]

Originally Posted by HunterX

A little over 2 weeks into retail and they expect the bot problem to be gone that fast? These things take time...so give them time.

What I don't understand is the fact that this game had 3 CBTS

When most games generally have 1 or at the most 2 and they don't surface with these severe issues, on the other hand Aion had 3 and the most basic gaming issues that should have been worked on in CB totally were not even touched.

It's very disappointing even though I'm pretty sure we won't encounter these issues here, I'm still angry, angry at the people who complained about Aion coming out late in the west and then seeing these people complain about elliot being too harsh failing to realise that they would be part of those people flaming ncsoft for their lack in balancing their game well.

I'd like to read the WoW comparison too Elliot, pretty please :3