The hero class

[Grid Iron Ghost]

Originally Posted by Celebrity

NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Here comes Nc again with the stupid unbeatable heroes again!!!!! Anotherr game going straight intto the trash.

For who didn't ever played L2 hero's are the worse thing that EVER happened to l2.

huh? ....nobless drop hero's all day long.....i damn near dropped a hero with my 68 tyrant .....

[Azania]

Originally Posted by Sultan

yea agree, also i think it will be not hard to BECOME 1. and hero, but MUCh harder to MAINTAIN the hero status because you have to keep up your points and keep getting abyss points constantly.

reminds me of the early BG Grinding where you had to play BG 10 hours a day to STAY highest rank in pvp rankings, too much work. i would be happy to be among 100 best if its not too much effort.

in WoW where I got second to highest rank (Warlord, rank #13 from the 14) you had to PvP in the battle ground 12 hours a day, 6 days a week with a very good pre for like 2~3 months(for the last rank I would have to do that for another month, keep standing 1 or 2 of the server to keep getting progress every week ><). Once you had the title there was no reason to keep on having your title. The gear was there for you to wear permanently. The only problem was buying it which you needed the rank for. It wasn't till they removed that title system with honor points that I could have my title back heh. On my server getting that gear (Weapons from Rank 14 was not worth it, there was better in pve which I did got after a while) was good enough for me to join a raiding guild as a shadow priest (this was pre BC where shadowpriests were not quite wanted in raiding at all, only 1 per guild or so for the few guilds that had a shadow priest). With all the PvE gear I collected I became one of the best shadow priests on the server back then heh.

Anyway to compare I think getting this title the buff you get will not be that much but 1on1 against a hero.. you will def not going to win that unless lucky. I am always still waiting to see if we get any high level raiding content. Even then with the bosses I doubt a hero will be that much advantage, I mean aggro stealing and all.. doesn't look that pleasant to me..

Anyway I do not like it that much.. Being the center of unwanted attention looks kinda nasty.. ><

[toptier]

Originally Posted by Celebrity

NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

Here comes Nc again with the stupid unbeatable heroes again!!!!! Anotherr game going straight intto the trash.

For who didn't ever played L2 hero's are the worse thing that EVER happened to l2.

What? Hero class = another game into the trash?


Remember this?

Originally Posted by Celebrity

I gotta admit this is making me rethink whos around those forums on the last days... Elliot don't translate more... A lot of whinning fanboys.... This was a better place not long ago.

Well if it's gonna be fanboys or fantrolls..

I can't decide


Anyway, I'm sure these ranks will appease the most hardcore within us. I'd say that they'd better get some significant buffs because these top ranks will take a lot of trouble to get.

[Lord Devil]

Well I would like the hero system to be more similar to L2 too... a hero per class would be best solutions instead of one ArchLord But lets see how it works out...

Hehe its a long way to go, I am Sergeant now *rofl* ^^

[Foyan]

I would have liked to see a progressive, but minimal incentive across the lower to middle abyss ranks. For a lot of PvPers the PvP is incentive enough - but if there needs to be an individual incentive to PvP it should not translate into a skills or gear availability incentive unless the incentive is extremely marginal. PvPers will always go for it - even a 1% increase in critical hit rate is good enough - every serious PvPer will try to squeeze out the most advantage that they can. But at the same time, extremely marginal advantages don't make the PvP experience game-breaking for PvPers who start out later than the first pack at release.

Better stats, gear, skills based on PvP ranks is nothing to celebrate. The hero system in L2 was not good for PvP in general and Olympiad was a joke.

I can't wait for clans reaching cross-faction agreements to farm points off each other in the Abyss at higher ranks with the points gamed/lost ratio being higher than 1. And at lower-middle levels there will be workarounds to farm points. Two clans can hold down the hero class for themselves for eternity. Good game.

If the advantage is marginal it doesn't matter - server wide announcements, unique skin etc is cosmetic. But if the benefits become tangible for sieges and when points farming starts, it's not going to be pretty lilies for the average gamers rejoicing now.

Originally Posted by Grid Iron Ghost

huh? ....nobless drop hero's all day long.....i damn near dropped a hero with my 68 tyrant .....

Not to make this into a L2 discussion, but Hero skills used to be quite powerful if you were a mage (SH/SpS/*) class. Not all but a couple. When I played, heroic zerk was extremely good for kiting and heroic miracle was a movable UD, a significant boost for both ganks and sieges. The rest could be dismissed as relatively useless. Wether zerk and miracle were marginal or game-breaking or something in between, is up for an argument I don't feel like getting into.

I personally feel the skills themselves weren't a huge issue, its the culture of farming points in Oly which made Oly PvP irrelevant to a lot of PvPers which I had an issue with.

[BrowNTyGeR]

U sure that rank class is legit?

The lowest rank you can get right now is 9, and then you work up...

I do have a gladiator and its rank 7 and it started at 9 i believe
9 to 8 is 1,200 abyss points
8 to 7 is 4,xxx abyss points
7 to 6 is 10,800 abyss points...

At least thats wat i have on my char window..

ly where did u get that info..perhaps its too old.

[AdrianWhiteheart]

I wouldn't really care about maintaining hero status. The fact that you got to hero status should be enough imo. However it would be interesting to see who could hold out the longest on your server.
btw do you think NCsoft will make a list of players from all servers who made it to hero status?

[lyankyj]

Originally Posted by BrowNTyGeR

ly where did u get that info..perhaps its too old.

The stats are from the powerbook iitself, titles from elsewhere.. Infos are legit.


What you're saying are the actual levels as you are getting closer to rank10. You see, in the korean version, the titles for the first 9 ranks are 'Soldier lvl9' - 'Soldier lvl8' - 'Soldier lvl7', etc. After rank 10-14, it is 'Captain lvl 1-5', and there are different titles for each higher rank (general, warlord, commander, com-in-chief, hero). In the english version on each rank you get a different title - as you can see that on the chart.

[Kaldur]

Wow...I wonder how many bags of Doritos and Coca-Cola bottles would take me to become a Hero! @.@

[LaSirene]

Probably a little after you become a diabetic 400lbs man wearing a wrist brace.

And you are all welcome for that lovely mental image,

[Kaldur]

lol10chars

[LaSirene]

Lol@the thanks and groans. lyankyj just wants to go against the grain, huh?

[lyankyj]

Originally Posted by LaSirene

Lol@the thanks and groans. lyankyj just wants to go against the grain, huh?

I thanked and groaned first:PP

Mark obviously would love to see that mental image:PP

[Goat OG]

Hero Class?...rubbish... I do not like the idea at all... No I am not L2 fan (only played for a week)...but why should the top pvper on the server be labeled?...not all hardcore pvper want that kind of attention...ranking is awesome..but Hero Class?..and since they are the top pvper on the server they get acess to hero class gear? (from my understanding?)...So aion pvp is going to be heavily based on gear like WOW :x?... Besides people will know who the top pvper on their server is eventually with ranking alone...I guess I have to see how this plays out....Maybe I am misunderstanding the concept...if hero class was just title then I would have no problem with it...but allowing them acess to hero class specific gear? and making them some sort of miniboss?...I do not support at all

[LaSirene]

Originally Posted by lyankyj

I thanked and groaned first:PP

Mark obviously would love to see that mental image:PP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Ov0URCGr0
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Big
Healthy
Husky
Fluffy
and "DAMN!"

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