Game state? What are the most irritating things in the game so far?

[Sardunos]

Ah Gotcha.

[toptier]

Originally Posted by t0yo

Good luck finding the answers you seek here. The last person who tried to point out the negative things about the game got *****ed at by a few people who are hardcore aion fans and can not take criticism from the korean players.

-It mostly has to do with class balancing issues at the moment were classes are stronger then others (sorcerers).
-Melee classes in the air don't work because people move out form their range
- A majority of the korean archer players state that they are forced to use "bugs" to do well.
-Sorc's pets can't fly

Mostly thats been the biggest of complaints, however its under speculation that NcSoft is doing their best to fix these issues

- Archers don't use bugs anymore - their skills got buffed, and the bugs disabled.
- Sorcerers never had pets - what are you smoking? I doubt Spiritmaster pet were designed to fly at all.

Apparently b*tching about a game you haven't played before is cool around these parts.

Anyhow main problems seem to be class balancing and botting.

[Crystal]

Originally Posted by toptier

- Archers don't use bugs anymore - their skills got buffed, and the bugs disabled.
- Sorcerers never had pets - what are you smoking? I doubt Spiritmaster pet were designed to fly at all.

Apparently b*tching about a game you haven't played before is cool around these parts.

Anyhow main problems seem to be class balancing and botting.

it's pretty obvious t0yo meant Spiritmasters since he mentioned Sorcs were the op class. I doubt he would then go and logically say a disadvantage of the same class after mentioning it was OP, the disadvantage being the main weakness in the class's feature itself. Spiritmaster's pets not being designed to fly is a major design flaw.

[Kaldur]

I just wanted to clarify that t0yo has played the game, but he does complain a lot about it.

[toptier]

Originally Posted by Crystal

it's pretty obvious t0yo meant Spiritmasters since he mentioned Sorcs were the op class. I doubt he would then go and logically say a disadvantage of the same class after mentioning it was OP, the disadvantage being the main weakness in the class's feature itself. Spiritmaster's pets not being designed to fly is a major design flaw.

Based on what? Your extensive first-hand experience?

Seriously, guys, why claim all this crap when you can't support any of it? Instead of stating something "is a major design flaw" as fact, why don't you say, "I think it is a major design flaw" and come up with reasons why you think so? There's a plague of "I think, therefore it is" mentalities running wild in these forums.

[Mark]

I concur wholeheartedly. Opinion != fact.

[Livvy]

Originally Posted by Mark

I concur wholeheartedly. Opinion != fact.

I'll just quote

forum Show phonetics
noun [C]
1 a situation or meeting in which people can talk about a problem or matter especially of public interest:
a forum for debate/discussion

2 in ancient Rome, the area in the middle of the town used for public business

3 a place on the Internet where people can leave messages or discuss particular subjects with other people at the same time:
Discussion forums are a way of contacting people with similar interests from all over the world.

(from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary)

If you just give the facts you might as well close shop here . These forums are rapidly turing into Aion's very own GWonline.

[Kaldur]

Man, if all the opinions in this message boards were facts, Aion would be an octopus with 3 eyes in the face and 4 in the butt, it would cry sh!t, it would walk backwards thinking its flying, and chew bubble gum with a cherry on top while at it. @_@

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Livvy

I'll just quote



If you just give the facts you might as well close shop here . These forums are rapidly turing into Aion's very own GWonline.

I...

I don't get it, man. What does that have to do with "opinion != fact"? You confused me, can we start over from the beginning? I feel as if I missed something important.

[Crystal]

Originally Posted by toptier

Based on what? Your extensive first-hand experience?

Seriously, guys, why claim all this crap when you can't support any of it? Instead of stating something "is a major design flaw" as fact, why don't you say, "I think it is a major design flaw" and come up with reasons why you think so? There's a plague of "I think, therefore it is" mentalities running wild in these forums.

I wasn't aware of the fact you wanted me to explain my reasoning behind how I thought it was a design flaw. It should be implied that it is an opinion, sorry for not making it so obvious to you. I feel it is a major design flaw because pretty much every other class is able to fly, yet the pet, an extension of a character itself, is not. If a character flies away, do you expect a SM to chase after it without its pet? I would seriously be embarrassed to fly up chasing after someone while my pet is on the ground as I'd probably look like a complete retard, would you? That means basically as a SM when someone flies away the only available option is to let them go, which no other class has to do.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Crystal

I wasn't aware of the fact you wanted me to explain my reasoning behind how I thought it was a design flaw. It should be implied that it is an opinion, sorry for not making it so obvious to you. I feel it is a major design flaw because pretty much every other class is able to fly, yet the pet, an extension of a character itself, is not. If a character flies away, do you expect a SM to chase after it without its pet? I would seriously be embarrassed to fly up chasing after someone while my pet is on the ground as I'd probably look like a complete retard, would you? That means basically as a SM when someone flies away the only available option is to let them go, which no other class has to do.

That's a valid analysis. However, SMs can still use a few skills when in the air without their pets. Some pets are ranged, also. And I think the SM may have a skill to bring people in the air to the ground, but I'm not 100% sure.

[Sardunos]

Originally Posted by Kaldur

Man, if all the opinions in this message boards were facts, Aion would be an octopus with 3 eyes in the face and 4 in the butt, it would cry sh!t, it would walk backwards thinking its flying, and chew bubble gum with a cherry on top while at it. @_@

That would make a pretty good Boss IMHO.

[Crystal]

Originally Posted by Mark

That's a valid analysis. However, SMs can still use a few skills when in the air without their pets. Some pets are ranged, also. And I think the SM may have a skill to bring people in the air to the ground, but I'm not 100% sure.

Regardless, that doesn't change the fact SMs are disadvantaged in the air. Pets are ranged to an extent yes, but by how many meters? If someone is running away with flight.. they will with that knowledge just go higher into the air. The SM skill to bring people in the air to the ground is good, and i'm not 100% sure either. There's alot more hypotheticals that I don't know because I havn't played the game. Such as once they're on the ground from the skill, what is stopping them from flying again, granted they're not dead :P

[Mark]

Flight timer cooldown? I don't know. It's a problem in theory, yep. But I doubt SMs are going to try and solo PvP. Solo PvE is easy for them, amazingly so. But in PvP they should probably party up with someone else.

[Crystal]

Originally Posted by Mark

Flight timer cooldown? I don't know. It's a problem in theory, yep. But I doubt SMs are going to try and solo PvP. Solo PvE is easy for them, amazingly so. But in PvP they should probably party up with someone else.

lol so now we just tell all the SMs, "sorry, your class sucks too much to solo PvP, don't even think about dueling." In a situation where it wasn't a duel they would probably be partying anyways, who solo PvP ganks in the Abyss?