DP helps to PROC? - Page 2

lildoc · 10-23-2009, 07:17 PM

That wiki is from the Official Aion website. Right or wrong it is official.

Vivi · 10-24-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lildoc

That wiki is from the Official Aion website. Right or wrong it is official.

Yes the only thing that "proves" is that it is official. Being official in itself doesn't make it automatically right.

Drekor · 10-25-2009, 05:24 PM

I've been keeping track of my manastone conversions... have about 200 for no DP and 200 with 4k DP... once I get to about 1k for each I should be able to get some solid results as right now don't have a big enough sample size.

Moondemon · 10-25-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lildoc

That wiki is from the Official Aion website. Right or wrong it is official.

When I enter GM Headquarters and put a note to their blackboard saying that they have been bought by Volkswagen, my note also is on the official blackboard. Still doesnt make it true.

As it has been pointed out, it is a WIKI and the entry was not written by anyone appearing to be an NCSoft employee.

crazyscorp · 10-26-2009, 05:28 PM

Test it with cooking even at starting level you can do a run of 1000 and vendor to get your money back then try with DP. Other proffesions are just to expensive to get a large enough sample to come to any conclusion saying 1 out of 5 proced with full dp means nothing as the sample is just too small

Alexor · 10-26-2009, 06:58 PM

Well , from what i have noticed recently i'm having very high success rate with my DP at 4000 compared to DP at 0.
I'll take work orders as an example : i got to 150 the hard way, and figured how to do work orders and which level will fail few times certainly no matter what (such as crafting 150 work order while your crafting is 150) .
I would usually always fail work order of same level as my crafting at least 3 times and i always had 0 DP (usually did crafting when i log on).
But , last 2 days i was crafting with my DP bar filled (just to test out :P ) and whoah! crafted 180-250 with maybe 2-3 random fails which would usually be somewhere high (such as crafting 210 order at craft lvl 219) but haven't failed a single craft on order the same level as my crafting.
Weird i know , could be my lucky streak , but i highly doubt it. There's no such things as lucky streak for me , i'm one of those that rolls 1-6 90% of the time.

loftel · 10-27-2009, 09:36 AM

I did 1000 stone converts yesterday with 4k DP - had a 12% crit percentage. soo...

Thonatos · 10-28-2009, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by loftel

I did 1000 stone converts yesterday with 4k DP - had a 12% crit percentage. soo...

Read recently there is a +5% crit chance with full DP. I read it here, perhaps in the alchemy threads...

Food/Jelly, whatever the hell it is for +2k or full DP is selling everywhere, and apparently pretty well.. if it isn't for crafting I could not imagine spending that coin on food with insane cool downs for one use of an ability....

Just saying here... it seems there 'may' be some truth here..

Warrender · 10-28-2009, 07:31 AM

Really curious if anyone who really believes that just anyone can edit this official wiki has actually tried?

Aspecti · 10-28-2009, 07:49 AM

This "official wiki" of yours says that DP increases healing crit rate. Really.

Warrender · 10-28-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Aspecti

This "official wiki" of yours says that DP increases healing crit rate. Really.

Sure, the info is sketchy especially the part about the non-existent crit heals.

But, seriously, you can't doubt that it is an "official wiki".

kriS411 · 10-28-2009, 09:01 AM

did 1000 manastone morphes this night, got 161 crits (16%) - zero DP.

compared to:

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I did 1000 stone converts yesterday with 4k DP - had a 12% crit percentage. soo...

I don't believe in this "DP increases crafting crit" ****...

Lieto · 10-28-2009, 11:50 AM

Actually its so easy to check with alchemy.
Testing it will crafting 500+ potions with and without DP would sure as hell give solid evidence.

Saying smth like "i craftet 5 and one crited" is meh. Craft 100, better 500 or 1000 and then come with your results.
Ty.

[edit] ok it had already been made. Check above.
Doing smth 1000 times has nothing to do with luck

Kalma666 · 10-29-2009, 05:24 AM

There's a tiny error in the wiki. Healing and damage crits (even dot crits!!!) actually increase dramatically if you do/cast them without any gear on. Try this in your next instance run, you'll see a major difference in outcome.

Crafting crits can easily be increased to 100% by flying 3 times counter clockwise around each abyss gate, and then going to pandemonium and setting up a gold spamming vendor for exactly 49.7minutes (note: you cannot stop the vendor during this time for this to work)

Also you can get infinite fly time in abyss by first flying to spot where there's no ground under you. Then close and reopen your wings 8 times within 30 seconds (you'll get this right with bit of practise), and bang: infinite flying time.

There, the 'cheats' are public now. Use them quick before NCsoft removes them.

lasjoss · 10-29-2009, 07:01 AM

u kidding me right???? gold spamming vendor for bla bla. yeah right

10-25-2009, 05:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
Drekor Officer Join Date: Jul 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Drekor Class: Cleric Legion: Salty Dogs Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	I've been keeping track of my manastone conversions... have about 200 for no DP and 200 with 4k DP... once I get to about 1k for each I should be able to get some solid results as right now don't have a big enough sample size. __________________

10-28-2009, 07:31 AM	#24 (permalink)
Warrender Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Warrender Class: Templar Race: Elyos Server: Triniel	Really curious if anyone who really believes that just anyone can edit this official wiki has actually tried? __________________

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Aspecti Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Finland Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Ashemmi Class: Cleric Legion: Astralis Race: Elyos Server: Perento	This "official wiki" of yours says that DP increases healing crit rate. Really. __________________

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10-23-2009, 07:17 PM	#16 (permalink)
lildoc Human Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Elyos	That wiki is from the Official Aion website. Right or wrong it is official.

10-26-2009, 05:28 PM	#20 (permalink)
crazyscorp Soldier Join Date: Aug 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Class: Gladiator Race: Asmodians Server: Nezekan	Test it with cooking even at starting level you can do a run of 1000 and vendor to get your money back then try with DP. Other proffesions are just to expensive to get a large enough sample to come to any conclusion saying 1 out of 5 proced with full dp means nothing as the sample is just too small

10-26-2009, 06:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
Alexor Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Race: Undecided Server: Undecided	Well , from what i have noticed recently i'm having very high success rate with my DP at 4000 compared to DP at 0. I'll take work orders as an example : i got to 150 the hard way, and figured how to do work orders and which level will fail few times certainly no matter what (such as crafting 150 work order while your crafting is 150) . I would usually always fail work order of same level as my crafting at least 3 times and i always had 0 DP (usually did crafting when i log on). But , last 2 days i was crafting with my DP bar filled (just to test out :P ) and whoah! crafted 180-250 with maybe 2-3 random fails which would usually be somewhere high (such as crafting 210 order at craft lvl 219) but haven't failed a single craft on order the same level as my crafting. Weird i know , could be my lucky streak , but i highly doubt it. There's no such things as lucky streak for me , i'm one of those that rolls 1-6 90% of the time.

10-27-2009, 09:36 AM	#22 (permalink)
loftel Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Georgia Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Zikel	I did 1000 stone converts yesterday with 4k DP - had a 12% crit percentage. soo...

10-28-2009, 11:50 AM	#28 (permalink)
Lieto Star Officer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kiev, UA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Lieto Class: Ranger Race: Asmodians Server: Perento	Actually its so easy to check with alchemy. Testing it will crafting 500+ potions with and without DP would sure as hell give solid evidence. Saying smth like "i craftet 5 and one crited" is meh. Craft 100, better 500 or 1000 and then come with your results. Ty. [edit] ok it had already been made. Check above. Doing smth 1000 times has nothing to do with luck

10-29-2009, 05:24 AM	#29 (permalink)
Kalma666 Daeva Join Date: Oct 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Castor	There's a tiny error in the wiki. Healing and damage crits (even dot crits!!!) actually increase dramatically if you do/cast them without any gear on. Try this in your next instance run, you'll see a major difference in outcome. Crafting crits can easily be increased to 100% by flying 3 times counter clockwise around each abyss gate, and then going to pandemonium and setting up a gold spamming vendor for exactly 49.7minutes (note: you cannot stop the vendor during this time for this to work) Also you can get infinite fly time in abyss by first flying to spot where there's no ground under you. Then close and reopen your wings 8 times within 30 seconds (you'll get this right with bit of practise), and bang: infinite flying time. There, the 'cheats' are public now. Use them quick before NCsoft removes them.

10-29-2009, 07:01 AM	#30 (permalink)
lasjoss Daeva Join Date: Sep 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Race: Undecided Server: Perento	u kidding me right???? gold spamming vendor for bla bla. yeah right

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