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Old 11-05-2009, 03:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Life Potions T2 and above all sell great for me. Making 500-800k a night just off HOT potions. The direct heals also sell great on my server. Honestly the T2 stuff sells faster than the Greaters and Majors.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I've already stopped attempting making money through alchemy because of those gather bots. Fresh Subella is selling for 4k each usually, but there are people selling Major Life Serum for 1.4-1.5k per pot.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The best money maker in Alchemy is hands down Weapons.
If you are making money on orbs/books, that's great for you, but I don't see why anyone would buy lvl 30ish or 40ish blue weapons for a few 100k or even millions of kinah when you have both the FT quested blue around 32 and the gold weapon from the lvl 41 questline.
Especially the Fire Temple questline is so easy I just can't see why anyone would buy a lvl 35 blue instead for the minor upgrade a crafted blue would be? The gold weapon questline is longer and harder, but it's still a gold weapon for a few hours of work, and a lvl 40+ gold weapon isn't going to go for less than a few millions on any server, I just don't see why anyone would spend that much either when they can have one basically "for free" and spend their millions of kinah on something else.

And yes, all the various bots are really screwing up this game on all levels, not only do you often find more bots than real players when you go out questing, now I see more and more gather bots all over the place, some even seem to have the node spawns on timers, and when you go to craft, well if it isn't mr. Sgfdez sitting there in the corner crafting, and then when you go to the broker you first pass 5 private stores advertesing RTM sites and then you go search on the broker only to find that a ton of the guys selling stuff is named Fsghrf...
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I've stopped making Greater Wind Serums for the time being since people are selling them for 44 gold more than the merchant would give. I was almost tempted to buy all of the cheap Aether Gems from the bots listing them to make serums and just throw them for a merchant.

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:08 AM   #35 (permalink)
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If you are making money on orbs/books, that's great for you, but I don't see why anyone would buy lvl 30ish or 40ish blue weapons for a few 100k or even millions of kinah when you have both the FT quested blue around 32 and the gold weapon from the lvl 41 questline.
Especially the Fire Temple questline is so easy I just can't see why anyone would buy a lvl 35 blue instead for the minor upgrade a crafted blue would be? The gold weapon questline is longer and harder, but it's still a gold weapon for a few hours of work, and a lvl 40+ gold weapon isn't going to go for less than a few millions on any server, I just don't see why anyone would spend that much either when they can have one basically "for free" and spend their millions of kinah on something else.

And yes, all the various bots are really screwing up this game on all levels, not only do you often find more bots than real players when you go out questing, now I see more and more gather bots all over the place, some even seem to have the node spawns on timers, and when you go to craft, well if it isn't mr. Sgfdez sitting there in the corner crafting, and then when you go to the broker you first pass 5 private stores advertesing RTM sites and then you go search on the broker only to find that a ton of the guys selling stuff is named Fsghrf...
Believe it or not some people actually care about Good gear not the garbage ones from quest and they are really greens with a Blue title. The lvl 45 expert tome is better than the lvl 50 Free gold you get from quests by far. In fact if it fails to go gold and turn out blue that still way better than the lvl 50 gold. FT does not "give" you a gold weapon you get it from the boss that has a 1% chance of dropping A weapon, not a tome or a orb A weapon, and if a tome does happen to drop and there is another mage in the party you get to roll 50/50 for that 1% drop yay those stats are amazing. I know people who did 60+ runs and still didnt get there weapon. So to pay for the weapon instead which better stats is much much more practical.

Quest gear is worst than crafts for a reason. It should be that way. And players that care about there gear seek the best. There will always be a buyer.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:25 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Mana potions, they're selling for double-triple what life potions are at the moment.

Major Life Potion is currently at 750 kinah each on my server, whereas even with bots selling bulk loads of 1000 elemental stones the cheapest is 570 each.

Maybe I'm just greedy, but making 10k profit (if that) per 100 you sell seems like a waste of time considering how many you would have to move to buy anything at the intended level (50).
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:25 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Believe it or not some people actually care about Good gear not the garbage ones from quest and they are really greens with a Blue title. The lvl 45 expert tome is better than the lvl 50 Free gold you get from quests by far. In fact if it fails to go gold and turn out blue that still way better than the lvl 50 gold. FT does not "give" you a gold weapon you get it from the boss that has a 1% chance of dropping A weapon, not a tome or a orb A weapon, and if a tome does happen to drop and there is another mage in the party you get to roll 50/50 for that 1% drop yay those stats are amazing. I know people who did 60+ runs and still didnt get there weapon. So to pay for the weapon instead which better stats is much much more practical.

Quest gear is worst than crafts for a reason. It should be that way. And players that care about there gear seek the best. There will always be a buyer.
I think you misread what he meant when he said "both the FT quested blue around 32 and the gold weapon from the lvl 41 questline." The 41 quest ([Group] RM-114c) does not involve FT (at least I dont think it does.. havent done it yet). The only FT related quest he meant was the lvl 32 one.

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Old 11-09-2009, 09:11 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Raging Wind/Running Scrolls/Courage Scrolls/ PCH Scrolls are the biggest, they keep me afloat and are the only reason I ever have money to do anything, bout 1m in profit per day, not too bad imo

Haven't tested with weapons yet, haven't bothered getting into it.
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Old 11-10-2009, 02:26 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Recently I've been buying bulk manastones and hoping for crits. Been working out fairly well for the most part, making all my kinah back solely on the crits themselves and selling the excess white stones alone for a decent profit. Think I spent around 500k total for catalysts and a stack of 100 crit +8 stones and managed to sell back the +13s for 60-65k each and the white +10s for 4k. I imagine the +12/15 market would be even better but my alchemy is still about 60 shy of 399.

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Believe it or not some people actually care about Good gear not the garbage ones from quest and they are really greens with a Blue title. The lvl 45 expert tome is better than the lvl 50 Free gold you get from quests by far. In fact if it fails to go gold and turn out blue that still way better than the lvl 50 gold. FT does not "give" you a gold weapon you get it from the boss that has a 1% chance of dropping A weapon, not a tome or a orb A weapon, and if a tome does happen to drop and there is another mage in the party you get to roll 50/50 for that 1% drop yay those stats are amazing. I know people who did 60+ runs and still didnt get there weapon. So to pay for the weapon instead which better stats is much much more practical.

Quest gear is worst than crafts for a reason. It should be that way. And players that care about there gear seek the best. There will always be a buyer.


the FT blues in question are not the drops, its the rewards from this quest, which only requires 2 trips to FT.

[Spy/Group] Hannet's Vengeance - - Aion

if someone is willing to pay 1-2m for the difference between these blues and crafted blues, good for them. me? dont have that kind of money for +10ish m. acc
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:26 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Believe it or not some people actually care about Good gear not the garbage ones from quest and they are really greens with a Blue title. The lvl 45 expert tome is better than the lvl 50 Free gold you get from quests by far. In fact if it fails to go gold and turn out blue that still way better than the lvl 50 gold. FT does not "give" you a gold weapon you get it from the boss that has a 1% chance of dropping A weapon, not a tome or a orb A weapon, and if a tome does happen to drop and there is another mage in the party you get to roll 50/50 for that 1% drop yay those stats are amazing. I know people who did 60+ runs and still didnt get there weapon. So to pay for the weapon instead which better stats is much much more practical.

Quest gear is worst than crafts for a reason. It should be that way. And players that care about there gear seek the best. There will always be a buyer.
Please read my post again, first of all (as people pointed out already) when I'm talking about the quested FT weapon I'm obviously talking about Hannet's Jewel/Hannet's Tome which require only two trips to FT and a rather easy prequest, not the kromede drop. As for the lvl 45 expert crafted blue, yes it's slightly better than the xenophon orb (thought you need 4 extra levels before you can use it also), but I already said that the crafted weapons was a small upgrade in the original post.
The point is, most people I know who plays the game aren't spending their hard earned kinah on these marginal weapon upgrades when they get perfectly fine weapons for free while also getting good xp. When someone have enough kinah to upgrade their gear, they mainly seem to go for armour and accessory upgrades, since upgrades for those slots often are harder to get from quests. Most people start going for the Good gear at 50, since having the Good gear at level 35 is rather pointless when you will replace it in a matter of days/weeks of leveling.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:07 AM   #42 (permalink)
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impossible to sell major potions and scrolls on my server these days, mats cost more than the crafted item..
used to make millions per day with manastones now the market is flooded with them

had to go back and start making greater potions instead, and mix small amounts of other stuff as you find cheap mats on the broker


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how could i forget, sold 4 misery jewels buying lvl 45 fluxes for the price of the 35's when they had the same name <3<3
i hate ncsoft for fixing it.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:03 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I am pretty much just a Greater Mana Potion guy right now, well, still. I toss some Greater Life and a couple stacks of other pots here and there..

Market is great today and dead tomorrow.

I gather a bit more today, not relying on crazy material prices from the broker.

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