Beastly Scar

[Engrave]

Anyone tried it yet? I know it fails for PvP but is it excellent for for PvE?

I understand that you cannot move during the entire animation, but how long exactly is it?

Would appreciate it if somebody can post a clip or gif on the animation... I couldn't find it on Youtube.

[Dushatar]

I wanted to try it out too, (for PvE of course), the problem is that to use it you need both rune burst and rune knife first. That would mean Id have to remove eigther flurry/ambush/AT, witch I dont want. I think Ill try it at 47 tho, when I got 6 slots. And then have AT/Flurry/Amb/Knife/Burst/Beast.

[lsdlsdlsd]

i use it in pve, its good
rune knife + 4 beat chain and finishing works perfect

[faction]

why would you ever swap stigmas for pve in this game

[Kyzara]

I've been using this since I hit 45 and got my first Stigma Slot(Thursday) and I have to say it's amazing while grinding/leveling...

However it has a few shortcomings in pvp...

1) In PvP you really only NEED Pattern level 3 to execute a stun. Since patterns aren't used for their damage in pvp this has very limited use in PvP.

2) The chain is long, the animation for Beastly Scar I is cool looking and fast, but, it's easy to interrupt it since Beast Swipe takes a long time to execute. This isn't something I've tested for sure in pvp, but, during pve instances every time I get knocked down I can't get Beasty Scar I off. This leads to think it'll be easy to interrupt.

3) It does a ton of damage... I have crit for almost 1600 damage with this ability. In this regard it's nice, but, you have to get it off and want to get it off which in PvP i'm not sure either of those will be the case.

For the time being i'm sticking with it since there are no good stigma's which I can afford right now, but, I do plan to switch to normal stigma's as I find/buy them.

[Qbert]

I heard the damage is sick, I'll definitely be testing it @ 45 (41 atm).

[Shioji]

until i can pull shadow walk out of my @$$ ill be using it.

[Mephs]

Originally Posted by Kyzara

1) In PvP you really only NEED Pattern level 3 to execute a stun. Since patterns aren't used for their damage in pvp this has very limited use in PvP.

Even still, getting a 5 pattern rune is still better than a 3, and having it as an option against a lot of classes is still good. Some classes where time is of the essence and you dont need the extra dmg from 2 more runes its maybe not as important. Like against sorc/sm you are on a timer to kill them and its more important to stunlock than add up damage from your carves.

Against glad/templars you sort of do have that time to add the carve dmg in for maximum burst, and clerics/chanters too depending on circumstance. Also having 4 knockbacks is good in group pvp since it will let you keep kicking a flee'ing target back into the group, I do it constantly with just the 3 kicks I get, but a 4th will let you prolong this and acts as sort of a "snare" of sorts. The pushback is really taken for granted and is a lot more useful than people realize. Between stuns and pushback we can lock someone in one place almost indefinitely, works in teh air, too which is a plus. If you get 1 kick off you usually can get your whole chain off on someone in the air, thats why I like to use it whenever I see the opportunity.

2) The chain is long, the animation for Beastly Scar I is cool looking and fast, but, it's easy to interrupt it since Beast Swipe takes a long time to execute. This isn't something I've tested for sure in pvp, but, during pve instances every time I get knocked down I can't get Beasty Scar I off. This leads to think it'll be easy to interrupt.

I am tempted to get it just again, for the option. And yes it may be easy to interrupt but it depends on what you're fighting and when you use it. For instnace if you have no stuns up or you can't stun a target, you might want to build that 5th rune (or try to) and at least do maximum explosion dmg. For example, a glad/templar with UD up if you are forced to fight. Like say you're in an ankle snare, you nyerked up and they're charging at you with UD, you might as well fight back and pressure them with dmg while you're stuck, and pot tank, if the dmg is that good that alone makes Beastly Scar highly worth it.

3) It does a ton of damage... I have crit for almost 1600 damage with this ability. In this regard it's nice, but, you have to get it off and want to get it off which in PvP i'm not sure either of those will be the case.

I would only use it if it makes sense to use it, but the fact it does sick dmg in PVP is definitely a plus to consider. Again, the option to use it is there. You can have Eye of Wrath but do you always use it 100% of the time? Of course not.

At this point I like the way Scar sounds, and might pick it up. The only problem is whether it is worth losing 2 other stigmas to get Rune Burst and Scar, or to get Blindind Burst and EoW/Deadly Abandon instead???

[pandasliver]

Its nice for pve, looks cool and does decent dmg.

however , its rapes ur mana pool, and has slow animation.

[XionValkyrie]

You can't move while using it can you?

[Kyzara]

no you can't move while using it.

Meph i'm kinda of thinking the same thing... I picked up Throw Shuriken I tonight and swapped out but do find I miss Beastly Scar I. Though I'm not actively pvping currently(50 is my goal atm since i'm so close)... I want to test it out and may have my second Adv tomorrow... If so I'll test Beastly Scar I out in pvp and see how it works... I do think against the melee classes it is going to be a very nice tool to use, though I'm indecisive on wether to take Shadow Walk or Deadly Abadon as my final stigma. Leaning toward Shadow Walk though as stealth is just something I love and the element of surprise is ftw.

I'm kinda sad you have to get Rune Burst with it, though, I find if you rune burst > Ambush > SA the burst is kinda good... I did something like... 4k damage to a mob though this is purely a pve example... it could have potential in pvp if executed properly. I figure if you get a stun off, beastly chain, then rune burst > Ambush > Sa the burst would be pretty good... Assuming Pain and Binding are on cool down... burst is also good against those pesky Plate wearers.

As far as the mana goes, to be totally honest I haven't seen a different between when I had it and not.. it may be slightly more mana, but, that's why you carry mana pots or recovery pots with you. I do think I have more an issue with mana while leveling now then when I had Beastly Scar I since things die slightly slower when Binding Rune is on cool down.

Overall I'm really starting to think Beastly Scar will have a place in a stigma build even if most of our other Adv Stigma's are lack luster... Lightening Slash is another Adv Stigma I want to play with as well as I think it has some potnetial... I do feel Beastly Scar can be really solid in mass pvpve and Rifting though.

[Maladay]

Im having a really hard time trying to figure out what to go for with my stigmas. Atm im level 45 and using Shadow walk as my fifth (with AT, Flurry, Ambush and Throw Shuriken). I cant really decide which to go for on my 6th. If i should work my way towards Beastly or just pick up Blind->Lightning.

I think for level 50 its either:

Aion Armory - Assassin Stigma Calculator - By Terhix

or perhaps go for Lightning Slash, that -200 Magical Accuracy is really sweet, which in that case will make room for either Deadly Abandon or OOA for the last stigma.

[Pie Formation]

Originally Posted by Mephs

Like say you're in an ankle snare, you nyerked up and they're charging at you with UD, you might as well fight back and pressure them with dmg while you're stuck,

If you're ankle snared, any glad worth their salt will be beating the **** out of you from outside your attack range. And the beast fang combo would knock them out of your range anyways >_>

[faction]

and if you're ankle snared you nyerked up and are dead anyway, no point even trying to fight back even if they're retarded and attacking from 2yrds

[Mephs]

Originally Posted by Pie Formation

If you're ankle snared, any glad worth their salt will be beating the **** out of you from outside your attack range. And the beast fang combo would knock them out of your range anyways >_>

If they have UD up no it wont, but either way you still should do everything you CAN while in the snare.