Planning new computer for the Aion? Read here!

[Fishy McFish]

Sounds good. FSP is a good manufacturer.

[Howling]

Originally Posted by DSFARGEG

Also, i'm still wondering if i'll really see any differences between 2x2gb ddr2@800mhz or 2x1gb ddr2@1066mhz. Halp plix :<

The 2gb will be slower, due to not having enough of it get the 2x2gb sticks.

[Duncan Gallagher]

I will choose a 3,2 ghz dual core with 2 gb ddr-ram and the best graphic card i can get... i will play Aion on my 32 inch flatscreenl

[Livvy]

Guys, don't overdo it with these threads . You really do not need some "latest and greatest PC" to run Aion. I you simply use the recommended system specs as your basis it will run just fine.

That applies to all those lists put out by developers ( don't use the "required specs "but the "recommended specs " to be able to enjoy the game to the fullest ) .

Recommended:
CPU: Pentium 4 3.0GHz or AMD Athlon 64 3000+
RAM: 1GB
VGA: GeForce 6600 or Radeon x1550, DirectX 9c or higher
Hard Drive: 20GB available space
Windows XP or Vista

the only thing I would change in above specs is the amount of RAM ( but this has to do with Vista being resources hog and with avoiding LAG ),make that 2 GB .

[Fishy McFish]

Originally Posted by Livvy

Guys, don't overdo it with these threads . You really do not need some "latest and greatest PC" to run Aion. I you simply use the recommended system specs as your basis it will run just fine.

That applies to all those lists put out by developers ( don't use the "required specs "but the "recommended specs " to be able to enjoy the game to the fullest ) .



the only thing I would change in above specs is the amount of RAM ( but this has to do with Vista being resources hog and with avoiding LAG ),make that 2 GB .

There should be 3 rigs people make specs for:

1. Low end
- just a tad above the recommended specs.
- low settings / very little "eye candy".
- decent playable framerates for those on very tight budgets and just want to play this game.

2. Mid end
- those who want to play at good frame rates
- good budget machine with a fair amount of budget
- medium/high settings

3. High end
- Eye candy galore
- maxed settings/resolution
- people with +22" monitors


I probably could have used better descriptions.. but you folks get the idea. :P

[Calindor]

Originally Posted by Livvy

Guys, don't overdo it with these threads . You really do not need some "latest and greatest PC" to run Aion. I you simply use the recommended system specs as your basis it will run just fine.

That applies to all those lists put out by developers ( don't use the "required specs "but the "recommended specs " to be able to enjoy the game to the fullest ) .



the only thing I would change in above specs is the amount of RAM ( but this has to do with Vista being resources hog and with avoiding LAG ),make that 2 GB .

i have better than those specs and i cant even handle L2 at max settings, and l2 is over 5 years old

[Kalean]

Originally Posted by Calindor

i have better than those specs and i cant even handle L2 at max settings, and l2 is over 5 years old

L2 is a different game, it's a full world rendered MMO. Not zone based loading...It's much more demanding on a system. So don't worry too much =P.

[DSFARGEG]

Originally Posted by Calindor

i have better than those specs and i cant even handle L2 at max settings, and l2 is over 5 years old

True ! Even the most powerful rigs can suffer while playing in siege, especially on official servers
Btw there is still something that bothers me about my rig... I just ordered 2 WD Raptors 150gb to set them in raid 0 [175€ per drive *sweats*], and i was wondering if it was really worth it, especially for a game like Aion.
Is one Raptor as main hdd + storage will be sufficient,
at least for THAT quality ? ->

YouTube - Aion - "bird" script fly #2

[Juris]

Originally Posted by Kalean

the 9600 GT can ALSO be had for 150.

Uhm...Where? lol

Edit:
You guys keep throwing around these great pieces with the prices but you never say where we can get them...

Only flaw I see in this thread. That and that everyones fighting lol

[Kalean]

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!

At the very top of the results, click and set it to sort by lower price...there are like 10 models or so under 150.

BTW...If you guys are wondering what brand of cards you should be getting for Nvidia....

XFX and EVGA should be your ONLY considerations. Why buy any of the other when EVGA/XFX offer lifetime warranties? The other's don't, no point...Also keep in mind EVGA/XFX offer special programs, EVGA offers the step up, 3 months you can trade in the card to EVGA for something better, you just have to pay the difference. XFX has the double lifetime warranty, if you sell the card, the person who buys it gets that warranty also. This is great for selling a card easily, and quickly...works out REALLY well for high end cards. XFX also offers a very mod friendly warranty...VERY mod friendly.

BFG Also offers a life time warranty, these are the only 3, but BFG has no special programs.

DSFARG: It's up to you if you want to raid 0 or not, keep in mind there is no data redundancy with a raid 0, if it does go out, which can happen a few times, you'll lose your data and need to reformat. This happens rarely, but it does happen..Happened to me once so far on my raid 0 setup for my video source drives, but luckily getdataback and raid recovery saved my ***.

In terms of if you should or not, up to you...it'll increase your read/write rates my quite a bit...but not your access times, so accessing files and stuff in aion will still be the same amount of time, but it will be able to load the files if they are large at a faster rate. Choice is yours...this also relates to overall system performance as well.

[Diablo]

Actually I read an article about gaming and RAIDs and the performance differences in the FPSs they tested with were only 1-2 FPS so it doesn't appear to be really worth it.

Personally I just can't rationalize spending more to get a raptor for again minimal gain over any other HD.

[Calindor]

FPS is not near as demanding as a MMO when it comes to memory and loading....5fps in a mmo IMO is a huge difference, but its all pretty much the same as long as its over 30, and minimal spikes/drops....I spent around $1k on my rig...I could play HL2 or doom 3 on near top settings at 60 or so fps. Start up L2 and load Aden town + 300-400 characters running around, and I'm lucky to hit 15. Run up the ToI 13 stairs to have a pvp of 100 vs 100 and I'm lucky to get 10fps.

[Howling]

Originally Posted by Calindor

FPS is not near as demanding as a MMO when it comes to memory and loading....5fps in a mmo IMO is a huge difference, but its all pretty much the same as long as its over 30, and minimal spikes/drops....I spent around $1k on my rig...I could play HL2 or doom 3 on near top settings at 60 or so fps. Start up L2 and load Aden town + 300-400 characters running around, and I'm lucky to hit 15. Run up the ToI 13 stairs to have a pvp of 100 vs 100 and I'm lucky to get 10fps.

That, I believe, is down to your cpu though.. Not only do you see things happening in 10fps, but also your response time from you pressing f1 to the command showing on screen drops significantly in those situations - I can't be certain but I'm pretty sure thats down to your CPU.. Happened to me alot aswel. Though someone with more indepth knowledge of how things work might be correcting me shortly

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Kalean

GPU speed is not more essential. They both come hand in hand..If you don't have enough vram to handle all the textures, your gpu would bottle neck by not having enough memory, and vice versa as well. If you have tons of Vram and your gpu isn't up to snuff...the same will happen, performance won't increase due to the more memory, but it won't degrade performance either. They both go hand in hand...

GPU speed is MUCH more essential and I backed it up with loads of tests and can provide more, can you back up your claims that slower GPU than 3850 (like 2600, etc) but with more memory would be faster? You would be right if 3850 would have 64MB, not 256MB Since the latter is quite enough for even recent games, even at higher res if you dont use AA. Why? Because game developers (especially MMO creators) are fine tuning the games for what wast majority of players have, i.e. more than 70% of gamers have 256MB or less vram.

To sum it up:
1. If you can afford faster video card with more memory - the better (or its similar priced). If not - 3850 256MB will be more than sufficient to run Aion even at higher res (not like it will often be used for that, see 2nd point) without AA and with texture settings not on maximum (maybe), but medium to high - definately, I'm sure of it. Example - Hellgate: London, its graphically stunning game, using newer and more advanced engine than Aion, more and better special effects - 3850 with 256MB on 1600x1200 with the highest graphics settings in game (no AA) still runs on 99fps average!

2. About 85% of gamers are using 1440x900 or lower resolution, its safe to assume whoever is buying the least expensive rig is planning to use it on such res or lower. Why dont I limit cheapest rig to 1440x900? Because it actualy can run higher resolutions at acceptable fps, hence "up to" words, see Hellgate results above. Granted, its guestimates since Aion is still far from release and we dont know how it will actualy run, but I can bet if NCsoft will do decent job at tuning the game, 3850 will run 1600x... and even 1920x... just fine w/o AA and second best graphics texture setting (might even run on the highest like Hellgate, I'm just conservative

Originally Posted by Kalean

It's not necessarily an issue if you are playing at 1280x1024 or lower, but if you plan to play in 1650x1050 or higher, you NEED to get a card with 512mb of video memory, otherwise you'd not be getting the true performance of your card under those scenarios...You don't want to be limited by the amount of ram on your card...and the difference in price between a 3850 with 256mb, to a 3850 with 512 or a 9600 GT 512, for 149.99..That's 20 dollars more then the 3850 with 256mb's...

Again, those 20 dollars difference might be in your place, in my country difference is ~50$, thus different price grades in my first post, but since it appears in some countries its similarly priced, I updated the post to include this. About "NEED" part, first of all its gpu performance what counts (proved and proved again), memory size is secondary and even at higher res it may limit AA use and maybe maximum graphics settings, thats it.

Originally Posted by DSFARGEG

Also, i'm still wondering if i'll really see any differences between 2x2gb ddr2@800mhz or 2x1gb ddr2@1066mhz. Halp plix :<

Added to the first post, I hope this helps