Aion on Macs

[Ipmia]

Originally Posted by Diablo

Can we stop spreading that myth?

Any benefit to using a Mac for graphics was lost when they switched to Intel chips.

yes right, go tell that too all my friends working in the anim/photo industry and to my little sister that is in a sup. art school.

[Diablo]

Thats software and a better quality monitor available for a lower price, a shock from apple I know. Not the actual everyday I need a computer I bought a Mac type mac.

[Ipmia]

who cares ? fact is still there, mac = more a artistic professionnal tool regadless if its more or less perfomrant than high end PC hardware wize , period.

but try to stay on topic if you can manage

[Diablo]

Indeed why Pixar runs Intel and Linux OS.

Doesn't Apple own Pixar?

[Wontuan]

Windows XP fo' life! Gotta admit though, Apple's MacBooks are so damn nice and clean looking.

/sign

[Diablo]

Thats the true strength of apple, marketing, they just happen to make comoputers as well.

[Kalean]

Mac's are more of a artistic tool as Ipmia stated. Heck, go to Art Center in Pasadena, California....Most the students there will be running on a mac =P. Heck, I'd know, my bro has a Mac pro in the other room and just graduated from Art Center...lol. It still has penetrated the professional industry, but it's very minor...The largest portion being photo/art, and video...

Diablo: That's actually not true, the switch from IBM PowerPC processors to Intels cpu's was actually a major step up, performance increased big time, as well as the ability to dual boot Windows and Mac OSX, it's a definite step up.

But, the true benefit to Mac's is the operating system, it's built off linux, so that's a huge plus. But does this justify the purchase?...Imo, hell no.. They are just too overpriced for what they are worth, you are paying for the name and the os, nothing more. The commercials get on my nerves big time now. Especially the one that implies that the Macs hardware is all built by the same person, while PC's need to all be bought by different vendors...This is indeed true for PC's, but it's a strength considering how versatile and budget friendly they are. For Apples, that ****ES me off considering Foxconn makes their mother boards, crucial their ram, Intel the CPU and bridges, Nvidia and ATI the gpu's, Intel owns the EFI, and the cases are probably made on the same manufacturing line as Lian-li cases...-_-

Way to go Apple!...Marketing for the lose. My bros Mac Pro was worth 6 grand when he purchased it. Keep in mind they are socket 771 systems, but he got two dual core 2.67 ghz intel processors, 8 gigs of ram, a 320gb drive, and a 7300GT graphics card. Come on man, utter horse crap, 6 grand for that?..he didn't even get a monitor or anything -_-..I hate mac's, even though I work with them from time to time considering I build/fix computers.

The way I see it, Mac's are for people that just want their computer to work without learning how they operate and how to handle them...PC's require more effort at times considering issues you can run into, but it raises your overall computer related knowledge if you spend the time to understand them. They are also MUCH cheaper obviously, and you get a LOT for your money, and hey look!..they are built for gaming.

Personally, I'm never buying a Mac...

In regards to the whole NCSoft Aion and mac debate...It's just not beneficial. Yes mac users might be able to play Aion if they did, but the Apple community has such a small percentage it's not even worth it. Let alone that's just the apple community, there will be a smaller percentage that actually plays Aion....It's not for no reason that very few companies port over to the Mac, they can end up losing money if it doesn't work out.

For the mac users, just be happy you at least have boot camp imo, that gives you the option of at least playing the game. Mac + Gaming = not a smart idea business wise, unless your company has so much funding, it wouldn't put a dent into your cash flow....

After all..WoW = 10,000,000 subscribers....10,000,000 x 15 a month = 150,000,000 dollars monthly...Minus the costs of upkeep on servers/hardware, and paying staff...You still have a WHOLE LOT left over...The blizzard following alone, as well as the fact that prior blizzard titles worked for Macs, already secured that market....So why try to penetrate it now as a "experiment"?...Too dangerous for such a small gain.

[Diablo]

Originally Posted by Kalean

Diablo: That's actually not true, the switch from IBM PowerPC processors to Intels cpu's was actually a major step up, performance increased big time, as well as the ability to dual boot Windows and Mac OSX, it's a definite step up.

Yes performance wise, not just better able to perform graphical operations. Remember that back in the day when Macs were truly superior the huge commercial scanners and high end tablets were Linux and or Apple only, they just weren't made for PCs and that is where the entertainment industry got its initial mac infusion.

And yes Apple can simulate more colors, they say a million though it is far less, than a PC can but that is it. So I will give it that nod but practically all the above work can be done just as well on a PC.

[Kalean]

Well I'm not disagreeing with you on the PC factor, I would never trade up my PC's for anything =P..

But in regards to the scanners/tablets, it isn't an issue at all, software based drivers..Mac OSX still runs off Linux, and their is no issue what so ever when it comes to scanners and tablets.

In regards to current technology, there is pretty much no difference between the two imo....PC's can do everything a mac can do and more (gaming). I don't know where you heard of this color argument, and I don't believe it to be true..Although I may be wrong since I'm not a mac expert =P...But PC's can handle CMYK/RGB, as can a mac..So I don't see how color factor can be an issue. If you are speaking in terms of monitors, it's bogus....You just need to get a god monitor, a 8 to 12 bit S-IPS panel will accurately display colors if it's of high quality...Such as a tasty Nec 2490WUXI ^.^...Although expensive at 1,400. When it comes to color accuracy right now, it's monitors that are the issue. Most people hate CRT's, but they are actually superior to LCD's in MANY ways....LCD's have many negatives including backlight bleed, dead/stuck pixels, ghosting, input lag, response times, image persistence, etc....CRT's only REAL draw back is the size/weight factor...for some, the scan line method of displaying the picture can be an issue for those using a camera, and other slight negatives but nothing as drastic as quality of the monitor it self. It's not for no reason pixar, Lucas Arts, and the production company behind the movie "300" used Sony FW900 monitors (24" widescreen CRT Trintron)...They offer the best color accuracy and visual quality, plus you literally have a .01 ms delay in response times compared to LCD's.

But yea, the color accuracy scenario is more monitor related....If you get a pc with a cheap 22" inch monitor using a TN panel, comparing it to a cinema display use a IPS panel, of course they will be more accurate on colors....It's monitor based, not computer based....LCD's are just bleh..=(...Bring on FED/OLED! ^_^

[Lifaen]

Diablo if you don't agree whit this post just leave dude

[Casket]

Originally Posted by Lifaen

Diablo if you don't agree whit this post just leave dude

I'm sorry, you must be new to the concept of friendly debate.

[Waterelfo]

Yami is that true?!I want Aion on macs :3

[KatzuyAion]

I honestly don't care if they make a version of Aion Mac compatible, however i do hope that this is done after the PC version is released.

Why? Because I do hope that they dont push release date even more, or the final details of Aion are forgotten, because someone had a bad idea of wasting Aion's programmers time in a Mac Version.

It's well known, that Mac's aren't gaming machines, their graphic's cards are poor, the compability with the overall of the hardware is very low (you can't just reach a shop, ask for a nvidia 9800, and hope it to run on MAC). It has a great OS which Mac Os Leopard, However that's more for multi purpouses and more useful for professional users.

As said above, you have an option to use bootcamp to instal another partition, heck if you had money to pay double the price for a mac, i reckon you have an extra pair of bucks for an OS.

So i say again, as long as it doesn't compromise release date and the game quality, i couldn't care less. However, if you want to play games with good quality, just buy a platform based on PC.

Originally Posted by Lifaen

Diablo if you don't agree whit this post just leave dude

if everyone did that, all forums of the interwebz would be empty or they would be like:

Random1: Omg so pretyy.. its pink.....!
Random2: Yes pink... pretyyyyyyyy so pretty!
Random3: I agree with you all.... PInkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

O.o YUCK! a Debate where all voices speak the same, can't be really called a debate can it? =)

[JacobZ]

Have you guys ever seen this guys videos?
YouTube - emeek77's Channel
Die-hard mac crazy

[Waterelfo]

We shouldn't start another discussion about Mac vs PC. Let the people choose! But I would liek that there were Aion for macs too atet he pc release if needed :P