CPU temp?

[Krysis]

ok well im planning on building a new comp soon and i was gonna overclock the cpu except idk wat the safe temp range is. ill prob get a 2.0 or 2.4 (ghz? not sure wat label is). also, are there like temp gauges you can get to see temp of various parts in ur comp? any links would be nice (newegg if they have em)

last thing. can any1 rec a good mobo for c2d/quad, SLI ready, and fast FSB? i was gonna go w/ evga but i want a second opinion

[Diablo]

The majority of SLI boards are made by Foxxcon and just relabeled EVGA or XFX or made by Asus. I would just go with price vs desired features since the majority of these boards are more or less the same.

As for flavors the 680 boards are DDR2 RAM and 690 flavors DDR3.

But I would avoid SLI and just get one good video card, knowing that th next gen Nvidias are coming out late this year early next and are reported to be DX 10.1 and even more faster buting the gt280s to bed very early considering the price.

Temp wise speaking generally, since different CPUs have different ranges, 70C is hot, 60C is warm, 50C is good and below 50C is great.

[Calindor]

good temp is anywhere under 50ºC i believe...everest is an awesome program, shows you everything about your comp, temps of mobo, hd, cpu, gpu, fan speeds, bios versions, etc...

p.s.

i hope you had fun on aionsource sagaris

i didnt click the link but i know what it is

[FrozenIce]

For CPU temp(GPU is far different), everyone argues on what is the best temp. In what I've seen from everyone's experiences and myself, CPU on full load running under 50ºC is good. 55ºC should only be hit in cases where the CPU is running during a stress test at 100% like from OCCT. 60ºC and higher is never good.

The alarms that shown in a few programs I use, warn at 50-55ºC and shutdown your computer automatically if no user interaction at around 60ºC.

My computer which is OCed(C2D) from 2.4 to 3.2 on air will sit around 33-34ºC on idle and then can hit 53-54ºC on OCCT stress test running at 100%. I could probably make it cooler with different fans (adding maybe a fan that runs above 1400RPM) or watercooling but it's all about being completely silent for me.

A few people I know have bigger OCs set but have much larger fan setups or even water cooling and they keep their CPU temp under or around 45ºC on a full stress test.

As for what types of motherboard to get, I go Gigabyte as they are really good for OCing.

[zxzlenin]

I would recommend an Asus 750i chipset,extremely stable been a good for motherboard for me.

1.Price is $US160~
2.Good Overcloker,know people who gets 3.6ghz on Q6600 on this board
3. x2 Pci Express 2.0 Both Runing at 16x(For Future purposes)
4.Support 45nm CPU's if you plan on gettin on or in the future.

Link.

Asus P5N-D Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, Gigabit LAN, SPDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID at TigerDirect.com

[Deisan]

Had to post to this thread as I'm a computer builder myself, like most MMO gamers these days.

Shop at newegg.com. Seriously. Just do it. It's the best.

As for motherboard, as people have been saying, Gigabyte boards are nice. If you're planning on using an Nvidia video card, think about getting a board with an Nvidia nforce north bridge since it'll help you get better results with your video card (though not by a whole lot). Something I would suggest looking into is DFI. If you want to OC, definately look into DFI.

Newegg.com - DFI BloodIron P35-T2RL LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards - That board? Absolutely incredible and one of the best overclockers I've ever dealt with. It's also optimized for DDR2 800, which means you'll be spending at least $50 (if you're going with 2Gb of ram) cheaper than if you're going with DDR2 1066 or any DDR3 (Not worth going higher than DDR2 800 at this time as they lend a max of 1-3% increase in FPS for a good $100 or more on ram).

As for CPU, get the E8400. It can be OC'd to 3.6 on just about any machine without increasing the V, and can be increased to upwards of 4.2 on air cooling if you have a descent setup with an aftermarket CPU fan / heatsink. In a heavy load the CPU can get as high as 54c (Mind you this is at 4.2 Ghz, but you have to have a good case for airflow, which I recommend the Antec Nine Hundred) but if you're only going for a small OC, such as the 3.6Ghz, then you probably shouldn't get higher than 50c with the stock cooler. The E8400 is the best gaming CPU on the market for the price. The next best is a good $300 more.

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - E8400.

If you have any more questions I'm willing to talk computer stuff at any time! It's a hobby of mine for a reason, I love it!

I highly recommend "SpeedFan" and "RivaTuner v2.09" to anyone currently overclocking or about to. Another thing to keep in mind is that video cards are rated for MUCH HIGHER temps than CPUs. Most even somewhat recent video cards can get as high as 80c, and maintained at that temp, and not get any issues. I'm currently using a 9800GTX (a mistake, btw, I don't recommend getting one. An 8800GT can be as good, and even better, with a slight overclock. And they have better drivers.) running at 870 / 2175 / 1300 stable at 70c when under a full load. For those of you who don't know much about video card oc'ing, that's a damn lot since stock is 675 / 1688 / 1100. RivaTuner is the best.

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As an afterthought, if you're building a machine for Aion, nothing more than a 9600GT or an equivalent video card is necessary to run the game at max resolution, max setting across the board. You can probably achieve the same affect with an 8800GT, but I wouldn't want to chance it, the cards tend to run games poorly, and for about 30-40$ more you get a card three times better. SLI is not necessary in any stretch of the imagination to run Aion max across the board.

If you plan on playing games like Crysis, AoC or other system resource needy beasts, then SLI might be the thing for you. But unless you plan on playing one of those beasts SLI is a waste of money. My machine runs AoC on max settings, 8xQ AA, 1920 x 1200, all view distances maxed at 35-65 fps, the huge variation in FPS is due to 1, the graphics being pretty crazy, and 2, sub par programming. But I've only running a single video card and an E8400 at stock. I've yet to OC my CPU, I got this computer about a week ago and I'm still messing around with the settings.

[Mark]

Meh, skip the 9600GT and go for a 4850 by ATi. Better bang for buck.

[Deisan]

Originally Posted by Mark

Meh, skip the 9600GT and go for a 4850 by ATi. Better bang for buck.

True, but Nvidia cards have much better drivers and support.

[FrozenIce]

A lot of video cards go hotter than 80ºC. I for one have one of these lol. 8800GTS will hit around 90ºC on full load.

Originally Posted by Mark

Meh, skip the 9600GT and go for a 4850 by ATi. Better bang for buck.

Maybe, but a lot of games support/work better wth nvidia than ATI...which was hugely the case for AoC. I don't think I've seen so many bad complaints about ATI problems with AoC compared to any other game but I noticed its usually more ATI than nvidia problems.

[Deisan]

Originally Posted by FrozenIce

A lot of video cards go hotter than 80ºC. I for one have one of these lol. 8800GTS will hit around 90ºC on full load.

True, however I don't like my video card getting too hot or it'll increase the overall temperature of my case. I'm running on air cooling so that kind of heat can be more difficult to manage, though not impossible. The 9800GTX is rated for going at high as 120c, but there's no way in hell I'll allow it to get there.

[Calindor]

Buy a 4870, they are only $300, and beat a $400 GT260, and can hang in some games with the GT280 for $350 cheaper (cant wait for the x2)...They are hot on stock settings, but the stock driver allows to increase fan speed (I think 17% of utilization keeps it below 70º at all times, but I've heard you can put it on full tilt and get 40º in load or something ridiculous...but it also sounds like a jet engine.

[Cyroth]

if you are clocking/changing fan speeds on your 48xx cards then this is a very handy little tool, unfortunately you wont be able to push over 700 on your gpu without pencil/hard modding the card since the voltage is locked in the bios, do not go using it unless you know what to do and unless you know what you are talking about when it comes to graphics cards, the loss of your card is your responsibility.

[persepha]

im running on air cooling too, and ive oced my 9800gtx a bit and my e8400 (3ghz -> 3.6ghz). atm its 52/51c but can go up to 65-70c on full load. could use an extra fan

edit: -10 degress, real temp showed the right values^^, but Ive OCed it to 3800mhz now so its around 44/45c with a few programs up.

[Howling]

Originally Posted by FrozenIce

A lot of video cards go hotter than 80ºC. I for one have one of these lol. 8800GTS will hit around 90ºC on full load

My 8800GTS is HEAVILY overclocked and doesn't go over 65'C full load ;o
The reason alot hit 90C is because the fan is retarded and never changes speed automatically, you have to set the fan speed on it manually else it stays at about 30% - which does bugger all.

Originally Posted by Mark

Meh, skip the 9600GT and go for a 4850 by ATi. Better bang for buck.

Agreed muchly, I'm even thinking of selling the trust 88GTS and grabbing a 4870. AMD/ATi really pulled their finger out this gen, last gen's hiccups was mostly due to the merger - but they're recovering very very well imho.

Originally Posted by Deisan

True, but Nvidia cards have much better drivers and support.

lol.

[Calindor]

ATI has had better drivers since the days of the 8700's