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Old 07-09-2009, 11:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Game guard crash computer



So I have clean my computer and i didn't find anything that it's say, this happen on any game who has Game guard.

I would click yes to heal but i get a Shut down timer on my computer after it give me that screen.

Anyone know how to fix this? or even disable the scanner on it so its not looking for harmful stuff on my computer?

I try contact game guard but they have ignore my emails.

This is how they nyerk me over

Hello, this is Game Security Center from INCA Internet Co., Ltd.

Thank you for contacting us.



You have already sent us erl files. However they are not enough to investigate the cause of error. Erl files are log files that GameGuard creates while in operation. You can receive further advises on problems concerning GameGuard that were not been able to be solved through methods in FAQ.



Please try to run game after all deleting GameGuard folder. If the erl files re-appear into the GameGuard folder, the erl files should be sent us by e-mail. Please send us fresh erl files to game2@inca.co.kr. If you hard to find them, please exact GameGuard folder and send us or refer to the FAQ site as below.



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They don't even try to nyerking help me.

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Old 07-10-2009, 01:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Known GameGuard incompatibiltys :

-ATI Tray Tools
-Ashampoo Magical Defrag
-AutoHotkey
-Avast!
-AVG Anti-Virus
-cFosSpeed
-Cheat Engine (is suposed to but has no efect)
-Eclipse
-EZ Macros
-F-Secure Blacklight
-Filezilla
-Freenet
-KasperSky
-Logitech G-series Keyboard Profiler
-LogMeIn
-Mal Updater
-Media Player Classic
-MSN/Live Plus
-a-squared Anti-Malware*Motherboard Monitor
-NetLimiter
-Norton
-Ollydbg
-OneCare
-Outpost Firewall Pro
-Panda Internet Secuiry 2008
-Process Explorer
-Proxifier, ProxyCap, Aventail Connect and probably any SOCKS tunelling software
-PunkBuster
-Razer
-SetPoint
-Sidebar (Vista)
-Steam
-SpeedFan
-Synergy 1.2.8 - 1.3.1
-The Core Media Player
-TokyoShot Screenshotter
-Tsearch
-VNC
-Vue Series Rendering Software
-WhatPulse
-Windows Sidebar
-WPE Pro
-Xpadder
-Yahoo Widgets
-Zboard

For a game that is supossed to beat wow they could have done better than GameGuard.

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Old 07-10-2009, 04:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Agreed hopeful they just get rid of it seem like so many people have issue with it.

I will check over this list and see if i got any of these running, but i don't think i do.

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Known GameGuard incompatibiltys :

-ATI Tray Tools
-Ashampoo Magical Defrag
-AutoHotkey
-Avast!
-AVG Anti-Virus
-cFosSpeed
-Cheat Engine (is suposed to but has no efect)
-Eclipse
-EZ Macros
-F-Secure Blacklight
-Filezilla
-Freenet
-KasperSky
-Logitech G-series Keyboard Profiler
-LogMeIn
-Mal Updater
-Media Player Classic
-MSN/Live Plus
-a-squared Anti-Malware*Motherboard Monitor
-NetLimiter
-Norton
-Ollydbg
-OneCare
-Outpost Firewall Pro
-Panda Internet Secuiry 2008
-Process Explorer
-Proxifier, ProxyCap, Aventail Connect and probably any SOCKS tunelling software
-PunkBuster
-Razer
-SetPoint
-Sidebar (Vista)
-Steam
-SpeedFan
-Synergy 1.2.8 - 1.3.1
-The Core Media Player
-TokyoShot Screenshotter
-Tsearch
-VNC
-Vue Series Rendering Software
-WhatPulse
-Windows Sidebar
-WPE Pro
-Xpadder
-Yahoo Widgets
-Zboard

For a game that is supossed to beat wow they could have done better than GameGuard.

So basically I can't use my g15 or an anti-virus program?
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I used to run AVG and Online Armor but both of them caused Gameguard to crash.

Installed ZoneAlarm and Avira anti-virus and all is good now.

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Old 07-10-2009, 11:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I use AVG and Windows Firewall and have no problem with GameGuard. Your mileage may vary, of course. Do you have GameGuard's personal Antirvirus installed too?
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't know where this list came from, but I decided to double-check it.

I've installed and run all but 3 of these programs (because I couldnt' find a reliable dl for them, and the results are as follows)

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Known GameGuard incompatibiltys :

-ATI Tray Tools
-Ashampoo Magical Defrag
-AutoHotkey
-Avast!
-AVG Anti-Virus
-cFosSpeed
-Cheat Engine (is suposed to but has no efect)
-Eclipse
-EZ Macros
-F-Secure Blacklight
-Filezilla
-Freenet
-KasperSky
-Logitech G-series Keyboard Profiler
-LogMeIn
-Mal Updater
-Media Player Classic
-MSN/Live Plus
-a-squared Anti-Malware*Motherboard Monitor
-NetLimiter
-Norton
-Ollydbg
-OneCare
-Outpost Firewall Pro
-Panda Internet Secuiry 2008
-Process Explorer
-Proxifier, ProxyCap, Aventail Connect and probably any SOCKS tunelling software
-PunkBuster
-Razer
-SetPoint
-Sidebar (Vista)
-Steam
-SpeedFan
-Synergy 1.2.8 - 1.3.1
-The Core Media Player
-TokyoShot Screenshotter
-Tsearch
-VNC
-Vue Series Rendering Software
-WhatPulse
-Windows Sidebar
-WPE Pro
-Xpadder
-Yahoo Widgets
-Zboard

For a game that is supossed to beat wow they could have done better than GameGuard.
I've installed and run all but 3 of these programs (because I couldnt' find a reliable dl for them, and the results are as follows)

-Ashampoo Magical Defrag - COMPATIBLE (But the program itself is generally so virus filled its ridiculous)
-AutoHotkey - COMPATIBLE
-Avast! - COMPATIBLE
-AVG Anti-Virus - COMPATIBLE
-cFosSpeed - This is a program with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list. However, the program will run, input is simply disabled. It is NOT the -purpose- of the program, but still often used to provide a backdoor.
-Cheat Engine (is suposed to but has no efect) - This is incompatible for what should be an obvious reason.
-Eclipse - COMPATIBLE
-EZ Macros - This is a program with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list. However, the program will run, input is simply disabled. It is NOT the -purpose- of the program, but still often used to provide a backdoor.
-F-Secure Blacklight - COMPATIBLE
-Filezilla - COMPATIBLE
-Freenet - COMPATIBLE
-KasperSky - COMPATIBLE
-Logitech G-series Keyboard Profiler - COMPATIBLE
-LogMeIn - There were about 5 programs with this name. Without knowing which was referenced I can't be sure that I even found the right one, but the ones I tried were compatible.
-Mal Updater - COMPATIBLE
-Media Player Classic - COMPATIBLE
-MSN/Live Plus - COMPATIBLE
-a-squared Anti-Malware*Motherboard Monitor - COMPATIBLE
-NetLimiter - COMPATIBLE
-Norton - COMPATIBLE
-Ollydbg - n/a
-OneCare - COMPATIBLE
-Outpost Firewall Pro - COMPATIBLE
-Panda Internet Secuiry 2008 - COMPATIBLE
-Process Explorer - COMPATIBLE
-Proxifier, ProxyCap, Aventail Connect and probably any SOCKS tunelling software - These are programs with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list. However, the program will run, input is simply disabled.
-PunkBuster - Since this is anothe hack Shield, it should have been obvious that this wouldn't be compatible with GG, the same as two AV's will not cooperate running simultaneously. For this reason, I'm going to mark this one STUPID rather than incompatible.
-Razer - Again, Which Razer?
-SetPoint - COMPATIBLE
-Sidebar (Vista) - COMPATIBLE
-Steam - COMPATIBLE
-SpeedFan - COMPATIBLE
-Synergy 1.2.8 - 1.3.1 - COMPATIBLE
-The Core Media Player - COMPATIBLE
-TokyoShot Screenshotter - COMPATIBLE
-Tsearch - COMPATIBLE
-VNC - This is a program with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list. However, the program will run, input is simply disabled.
-Vue Series Rendering Software - COMPATIBLE
-WhatPulse - Compatible, but since GG hides its processes, it will return false results.
-Windows Sidebar - COMPATIBLE
-WPE Pro - This is a program with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list.
-Xpadder - This is a program with which it is possible to hack from. Its on many hack shields' list.
-Yahoo Widgets - COMPATIBLE
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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My G15 keyboard acts as a totally normal keyboard in Aion, meaning it does nothing special and the programs related to it, including the HUD, are disabled by GameGuard. Keep in mind that not everyone has the same luck with running GameGuard; for some, NetLimiter for instance is fine, but I know that disabling it allowed 3 or 4 people in the beta to play that could not before in an error 114 thread from a couple events ago.

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Old 07-31-2009, 02:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Known GameGuard incompatibiltys :

-ATI Tray Tools
-Ashampoo Magical Defrag
-AutoHotkey
-Avast!
-AVG Anti-Virus
-cFosSpeed
-Cheat Engine (is suposed to but has no efect)
-Eclipse
-EZ Macros
-F-Secure Blacklight
-Filezilla
-Freenet
-KasperSky
-Logitech G-series Keyboard Profiler
-LogMeIn
-Mal Updater
-Media Player Classic
-MSN/Live Plus
-a-squared Anti-Malware*Motherboard Monitor
-NetLimiter
-Norton
-Ollydbg
-OneCare
-Outpost Firewall Pro
-Panda Internet Secuiry 2008
-Process Explorer
-Proxifier, ProxyCap, Aventail Connect and probably any SOCKS tunelling software
-PunkBuster
-Razer
-SetPoint
-Sidebar (Vista)
-Steam
-SpeedFan
-Synergy 1.2.8 - 1.3.1
-The Core Media Player
-TokyoShot Screenshotter
-Tsearch
-VNC
-Vue Series Rendering Software
-WhatPulse
-Windows Sidebar
-WPE Pro
-Xpadder
-Yahoo Widgets
-Zboard

For a game that is supossed to beat wow they could have done better than GameGuard.
Umm... can i Say this is terrible
Its like a medicine with the side effects that are worse than the original condition

Makes you think live with the symptoms or the symptoms of the disease.
And honestly i don't know how a internet game can be secure anyway with a user side checker. Its gonna get hacked and disabled. Certainly not worth the trouble for legit players. Aion - Props NCSoft / GameGuard - FAIL NCSoft
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Help please :(

does anyone know hwo you initially tunr off norton, as i payed for it and do not want to ddeleete it as it is a good program, the only thing wrong wiht it is that its stopping me from playing Aion :O
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I don't know where this list came from, but I decided to double-check it.

I've installed and run all but 3 of these programs (because I couldnt' find a reliable dl for them, and the results are as follows)



I've installed and run all but 3 of these programs (because I couldnt' find a reliable dl for them, and the results are as follows)

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I've installed and run all but 3 of these programs (because I couldnt' find a reliable dl for them, and the results are as follows)

-NetLimiter - COMPATIBLE
Before, I could start the game but it would shutdown after ~2mins of playing.
After many hours of disabling different running processes I found out game works fine if the NetLimiter is disabled.
Ergo, NetLimiter is incompatible.
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does anyone know hwo you initially tunr off norton, as i payed for it and do not want to ddeleete it as it is a good program, the only thing wrong wiht it is that its stopping me from playing Aion :O
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Hmm.

My G15 and my Razer mouse both have no issues with Game Guard. I can use all the buttons and all the macro buttons on my G15. I just cannot program a new macro while gameguard is up.
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yeah so i just restored my computer to factory settings...wipes all programs and such, first and only program i install is Aion.....error 114...

whatever it messing up my gameguard came with my computer, i uninstalled the norton demo that was on it too and none of those other programs were on there...

i have a Dell Inspiron 1720, Vista
i dont know if my comp just has probs or whats up =P


if everyone has problems with this why doesnt NCsoft make one of these things of there own, like bliz's wardon

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