Concerns

[Rathi04]

^Did you even read the pages and pages of discussion saying that we don't know exactly what our roll is going to be? Recent-ish patch notes said they are adjusting our dps so we deal more damage. Have you ever played any other game then L2? Most classes broke out of their shell and were able to do many other jobs than just what their stupid lore blurb said in the manual.

How about you use your brain sometime.

[Tareith]

When they said they were adding DPS to priest classes, it was most likely so they can solo/be some sort of threat in PVP. I still personally think they will be great support (not a hybrid) with strong buffs, moderate heals, and lower end DPS. But who knows how it'll be once the game is out.

[Threnody]

I see many posts about 'keeping an open mind' and yet people clinging so dearly to what they knew in a previous game. Forget about classes in WoW, L2, EQ and the like...Aion is not any of those games. The classes in those other games were crafted to specifically work with that game's classes and game mechanics. Everything is speculation at this point and there is no need to pick Chanter apart for the sake of finding flaws and things that need to be "changed" when we're not in the beta ourselves to see first hand what could be improved.

Just looking at the list of skills in the wiki the Chanter has a delicious array of buffs, heals, and casting damage. This class is truly exciting to anticipate playing it. Anyone who focuses on one single aspect will be doing this class a great disservice. You can do so many things, isn't that enough?

((will be playing a Sorc AND a Chanter))

[Rathi04]

One of the main reasons I want to play the chanter is because of all the speculation on the class itself.

[VendorTrash]

Originally Posted by Rathi04

^Did you even read the pages and pages of discussion saying that we don't know exactly what our roll is going to be? Recent-ish patch notes said they are adjusting our dps so we deal more damage. Have you ever played any other game then L2? Most classes broke out of their shell and were able to do many other jobs than just what their stupid lore blurb said in the manual.

How about you use your brain sometime.

uh, adjusting DPS so we do more damage? hmmm, wonder what for?

its a problem most commonly known with healers as they cannot solo well because they are not for DPS.
their DPS is being adjusted for SOLO PLAY, it will not compare to other DPS classes that are supposed to DPS.
this happens to all or most healer classes when a MMO is released. Unlike the recently released MMO AoC where healers are the most OP class in the game atm. However, this will not be the case in Aion.

welcome to the your wrong club.

as for MMO's I've played.

CoH
L2
WoW
AoC
EQ 1 and 2
SWG

not necessarily in that order..

[Rathi04]

So the only one on your list is L2 where classes were completely restricted and you come here with the mindset that you know what a chanter can and cannot do. So you're just another peon spewing dribble about a game you've only read about (like the rest of us) and stating what you think as fact.

Welcome to the you're a close minded min/maxer club

[VendorTrash]

Originally Posted by Rathi04

So the only one on your list is L2 where classes were completely restricted and you come here with the mindset that you know what a chanter can and cannot do. So you're just another peon spewing dribble about a game you've only read about (like the rest of us) and stating what you think as fact.

Welcome to the you're a close minded min/maxer club

I dont have a closed mind to the fact that I know this will not be a DPS/Hybrid/Healer/Buffer class.
Its closed because I know its NOT going to be a THAT class.

If I upset the noobs who want to play a healer and DPS, im sorry....no wait...im not.
Go play WoW, be a Spriest or a boomkin/feral druid or a LOLRET pally or a ele/enh sham. Biggest mistake Blizzard ever could have done was allow the creation of hybrid/dps healers. That among other things ruined the game.

I assure you Aions dev's will not go that route and stick more humbly to THEIR OWN and stick close to what THEYVE DONE IN THE PAST. Especially when it comes to the creating and balancing of their classes.

[Rathi04]

Tell me how you know this? Do you have some inside info that you haven't shared with the rest of us? Because Aion's main site saying nothing about what we're going to be. So you show me proof where NCsoft agrees with anything you say and I'll say we're all wrong and you were right all along.

As you can see Aion - Classes says nothing of the sort. Thats what this whole thread has been about, us trying to figure out what our role is in the game. So don't come in here spewing your BS about how you know what the chanter class will and will not do. Just because you have some biased towards games that allow players to enjoy classes in many different ways does not mean you know how Aion will be ran class wise.

And honestly I don't know how you can come off calling everyone that doesn't share your opinion, noobs. None of us, including yourself, have played the game and we're all going off of what little information we've been given. Which by the way says nothing of how chanters will work at a higher level.

If you would ever take the time to read what people actually write all of our views are just guessing. I've never once said that we're going to be a nuking class. My last discussion with Otium(sp) brought this up a lot, we have nukes and we're going to use them to help a party kill things faster and gain more exp.

[Tareith]

You know, it's funny but I knew the sites were updated but neglected to read them for new info. The chanter description sounds alot like they are a hardline Buffer class, not a hybrid. And the Melee DPS looks secondary to ranged, spell DPS.

Then again, when you compare the class descriptions in WOW vs the actual classes....ya, quite far off.

[Rathi04]

The only reason I refer to the Aion main site is because it was just launched a week or so ago, so the information is the latest we'd have. I do like that they refer to our guardian ability in the class description, "growing stronger to change the tide of battle"

[VendorTrash]

Originally Posted by Tareith

You know, it's funny but I knew the sites were updated but neglected to read them for new info. The chanter description sounds alot like they are a hardline Buffer class, not a hybrid. And the Melee DPS looks secondary to ranged, spell DPS.

Then again, when you compare the class descriptions in WOW vs the actual classes....ya, quite far off.

Thank you

You're the only poster in 8 pages of nonsense that apparently knows wtf is going on.

besides me.


and Rathi im not even gonna reply to your posts anymore, your last two just made me lol in real life.




tard.

[Rathi04]

Glad I could make you laugh, but I'm still wandering how you can get concrete views about what we are when we have such a vague description of what the class actually is. If you don't reply to this I understand why, I'll admit I did go a bit overboard but the way you came off really irritated me.

Calling everyone who doesn't share your opinion on something we know very little about made me pretty angry. You have your view of we are not a hybrid class etc, etc. I have my view of we don't know what the class will actually be until we get more input from the devs or beta tests.

Even then I don't think you went the right way trying to get your point across telling everyone they were noobs and we're straight out wrong on our opinions.

[VendorTrash]

Originally Posted by Rathi04

Glad I could make you laugh, but I'm still wandering how you can get concrete views about what we are when we have such a vague description of what the class actually is. If you don't reply to this I understand why, I'll admit I did go a bit overboard but the way you came off really irritated me.

Calling everyone who doesn't share your opinion on something we know very little about made me pretty angry. You have your view of we are not a hybrid class etc, etc. I have my view of we don't know what the class will actually be until we get more input from the devs or beta tests.

Even then I don't think you went the right way trying to get your point across telling everyone they were noobs and we're straight out wrong on our opinions.

i think my view is so strong about what the class is going to be because I want it to be a strait buffer/support class meant not to have a dps roll in a group, this is what I want to play. thats why I picked this class.

if information is released claiming otherwise I will most likely play a cleric, as I most always play healers in MMO I was looking to play something along those lines but without the responsibility of having to be the main healer.

until then and after watching videos and looking at screen shots of the class im almost convinced it wont have a dps role in a group and therefore i will stand by that until information is officially released stating otherwise.

im not known on these boards for being a nice person ill argue night and day and since you seemed to have come down a bit ill come down too and say we're cool.

[Rathi04]

Okay yeah, then you're view is different then the gladiator who was posting in the thread earlier that really got me riled up. I looked at chanter because they (to me) seemed like a jack of all trades, not amazing at anything but proficient at most. As it looks now we both will probably get what we want as I'm going to stick with chanter no matter what. I'll enjoy being a straight buffer but I gotta use those nukes sometimes =D

Glad we could work it out, I probably get riled up to easy on a game I haven't even played yet. The anticipation is killing me. I'm having fun with AoC but it just doesn't have the right feel to it for some reason.

[birdman]

Rathi, what makes you think that Chanters are going to be DPS/anything that isn't a buffer? Everything that has been said so far points in that direction, do you have some considerable evidence to prove otherwise?