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Old 11-07-2009, 07:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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why? becuase i get to play an awesome game and you dont?
they removed dedicated servers from the pc version instead of adding it to the console versions.

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you can tell youself that P2P will make the game unplayable, but if that were true then whats with the millions of console gamers (more play these games on console than pc) who play p2p, without complaining.
yesh. them mainstreams have brain.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:17 PM   #32 (permalink)
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everything is a doom clone I guess. my 3 fps games of choice right now is tf2, l4d and quake live. they are all sort of different, and nothing like the OH **** where ma iron sight console scrub fps.

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L4D has so little content that its an insult to list that. They never even made good on their promise of free DLC that they made because the game had like 2 hours of content.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:17 PM   #33 (permalink)
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L4D has so little content that its an insult to list that. They never even made good on their promise of free DLC that they made because the game had like 2 hours of content.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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they removed dedicated servers from the pc version instead of adding it to the console versions.



yesh. them mainstreams have brain.
dedicated serrvers isnt even possible on the console versions. due to XBL and PSN, they whole way they work means deciated 3rd party servers cannot be implemented.

but like i said, dedicated servers have no impact on latency, play an xbox and try it out.

i get around 100ms ping playing COD4 on my pc, on a dedicated local server (one i had to find and discover how well it works, make sure it has no restrictions etc)

playing COD4 on my xbox, quickplay P2P i get aroun 120ms.

the difference is totally unnoticable.

but im sure you'l still have some reason why im wrong and MW2 will suck.

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Old 11-07-2009, 07:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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dedicated serrvers isnt even possible on the console versions. due to XBL and PSN, they whole way they work means deciated 3rd party servers cannot be implemented.

but like i said, dedicated servers have no impact on latency, play an xbox and try it out.

i get around 100ms ping playing COD4 on my pc, on a dedicated local server (one i had to find and discover how well it works, make sure it has no restrictions etc)

playing COD4 on my xbox, quickplay P2P i get aroun 120ms.

the difference is totally unnoticable.

but im sure you'l still have some reason why im wrong and MW2 will suck.
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it is. Theres a reason thousands of people at E3 gave them a petition for L4D content they promise when they announced L4D2, it was an insult. Sorry, I dont play FPS for 4v4.

Oblivion, Morrowind, Fo3, games liek this are when player made content is at its finest, when it is augmenting amazing games, not simply making up for dev laziness.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:31 PM   #37 (permalink)
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it is. Theres a reason thousands of people at E3 gave them a petition for L4D content they promise when they announced L4D2, it was an insult. Sorry, I dont play FPS for 4v4.

Oblivion, Morrowind, Fo3, games liek this are when player made content is at its finest, when it is augmenting amazing games, not simply making up for dev laziness.
meh, I'm content with the content
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:35 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I'll just leave this here.

PC Modern Warfare 2: it's much worse than you thought - Ars Technica

(Summary in spoiler)

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To sum it up
We thought the lack of dedicated servers was bad, but now we can add the lack of console commands, the inability to have a say in who hosts the game, a lengthy pause while the game migrates to a new host if the currently selected host quits, no leaning, no option to record matches, and no way to kick or block trouble players, hackers, or cheaters.

You have to wonder if there are any actual PC gamers working at Infinity Ward, as it will be a challenge to find any member of the PC gaming community that will stand up for any of these omissions, not to mention all of them bundled together. At launch, this will be one of the most locked-down, inflexible, and gamer-unfriendly game ever created.

It won't stay that way, of course. The pirates will have the game up on the torrent sites soon, if they haven't already, and the code will be ripped apart and modded to allow everything gamers want. How quickly will dedicated servers pop up for these pirates? It's hard to say... but we have a feeling it won't be long. Those that buy the game legally will have no choice but to play exactly how the developer and publisher want them to. On the other hand, this has given us some incredibly amusing images from the peanut gallery. The images were found on Evil Avatar's discussion thread.


Welcome to the new face of PC gaming.


Those of you who are buying it for your PC; enjoy your well spent money.

Also mr. welsh vermin, or average joe. It's not about hating change, it's about taking something good and making it into something awful. You fail to see the bloody obvious, and shall therfore be the laughing stock for the rest of this thread, and called out and punished for the following crimes: High nyerggotry, pollution of our forum and general nyerkbaggery. Plead your case.

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Old 11-07-2009, 07:37 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:44 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:26 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Hmm... to each their own. I think the people who are upset have the right to be in my opinion. Most these things don't bother me so much, I don't use mods so whatever (Now for a list of games I use mods on: Doom3 - DuctTape/Duke Nukem 3D - High-Res Pak) . No dedicated servers? Meh ok. Randomly choosing the host? That sucks, at that when the host ups and leaves there will be a delay while the game decides who will serve next, not only that but another worry is people whose ISP says not to host servers, while these aren't permanent servers they do still act as servers, a grumpy ISP could discontinue somebodies service over this. Not cool at all.

9v9 max... I enjoy maps with less people, but I also enjoy maps with alot of people. Why can't we have both? Seems like they took Warfare out of the game and should rename it to Modern Squabble.

Lol@IW answering the question "Will the PC version be the exact same as console?" they replied with "No, PC will use a mouse and allow different graphic settings" Seriously? I'm glad they took lessons from FPS games from 15 years ago.

Activision has been proving to be more and more fail, not at all concerned about their player or ruining franchises that they buy out. They really need to keep their opinions away from the people who actually create their games, example Modern Warfare the first one. Activision was dead set about IW not making a modern war game and instead wanted them to do yet another WWII game, but actually let the developers have their way with it and look what happened.

I'm still going to buy this game for PC... which brings me to my biggest problem with these "improvements" the fact that so many other PC gamers have been turned off to this game that I fear the online factor may not be as competitive as it could/should be.

/cross fingers

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
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PC Modern Warfare 2: it's much worse than you thought - Ars Technica

(Summary in spoiler)

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To sum it up
We thought the lack of dedicated servers was bad, but now we can add the lack of console commands, the inability to have a say in who hosts the game, a lengthy pause while the game migrates to a new host if the currently selected host quits, no leaning, no option to record matches, and no way to kick or block trouble players, hackers, or cheaters.

You have to wonder if there are any actual PC gamers working at Infinity Ward, as it will be a challenge to find any member of the PC gaming community that will stand up for any of these omissions, not to mention all of them bundled together. At launch, this will be one of the most locked-down, inflexible, and gamer-unfriendly game ever created.

It won't stay that way, of course. The pirates will have the game up on the torrent sites soon, if they haven't already, and the code will be ripped apart and modded to allow everything gamers want. How quickly will dedicated servers pop up for these pirates? It's hard to say... but we have a feeling it won't be long. Those that buy the game legally will have no choice but to play exactly how the developer and publisher want them to. On the other hand, this has given us some incredibly amusing images from the peanut gallery. The images were found on Evil Avatar's discussion thread.


Welcome to the new face of PC gaming.


Those of you who are buying it for your PC; enjoy your well spent money.

Also mr. welsh vermin, or average joe. It's not about hating change, it's about taking something good and making it into something awful. You fail to see the bloody obvious, and shall therfore be the laughing stock for the rest of this thread, and called out and punished for the following crimes: High nyerggotry, pollution of our forum and general nyerkbaggery. Plead your case.
i stil dont see how you justify the game being 'awful'

firstly, you havn't played it so these comments are completely redundant anyway.
but the fact is you are making minor gripeds into a big deal, while overlooking the huge improvements matchmaking offers.

hundreds of pc games are released each year with only minor improvements over their console ports, and no one cares. why is MW2 any different? because they havn't put as much into the port as they did with the first game?
who cares, no matter what people will find something to nyerk about. and you can laugh at me all you want. ill be playing the game, and ill be enjoying every minute of it. so im not gonna be the one losing out.

its like:
guy1: oh man i just bought the new ferrari, but it doesnt have a cd player.

guy2: dude, it doesnt have a cd player, why are you buying it? it sucks. if you get a ford focus instead you can have a cd player

guy1: but its a ferrari, its better than the ford in every way, and i only paid 10 bucks more than a ford for it, you should get one.

guy2: no way man, they are ripping us off by not giving us a cd player, the ford drivers get one so why should we lose out? screw them, they suck.

and guy 1 gets his ferarri. who's the loser here?

whatever though, im sure you'll still all make stupid irelevent comments but i honestly dont give a damn. im buying the game, im gonna enjoy it, and so are millions of others. so you can be in the minority that refuses to buy it, miss out on the experince and spend years trying to convince everyone they are idiots.
and ill still be playing MW2 at the end of it all.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:43 PM   #43 (permalink)
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i stil dont see how you justify the game being 'awful'

firstly, you havn't played it so these comments are completely redundant anyway.
but the fact is you are making minor gripeds into a big deal, while overlooking the huge improvements matchmaking offers.

hundreds of pc games are released each year with only minor improvements over their console ports, and no one cares. why is MW2 any different? because they havn't put as much into the port as they did with the first game?
who cares, no matter what people will find something to nyerk about. and you can laugh at me all you want. ill be playing the game, and ill be enjoying every minute of it. so im not gonna be the one losing out.

its like:
guy1: oh man i just bought the new ferrari, but it doesnt have a cd player.

guy2: dude, it doesnt have a cd player, why are you buying it? it sucks. if you get a ford focus instead you can have a cd player

guy1: but its a ferrari, its better than the ford in every way, and i only paid 10 bucks more than a ford for it, you should get one.

guy2: no way man, they are ripping us off by not giving us a cd player, the ford drivers get one so why should we lose out? screw them, they suck.

and guy 1 gets his ferarri. who's the loser here?

whatever though, im sure you'll still all make stupid irelevent comments but i honestly dont give a damn. im buying the game, im gonna enjoy it, and so are millions of others. so you can be in the minority that refuses to buy it, miss out on the experince and spend years trying to convince everyone they are idiots.
and ill still be playing MW2 at the end of it all.
watch this guy ragequit due to rampant hax, sploits and lag.

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Old 11-07-2009, 09:51 PM   #45 (permalink)
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watch this guy ragequit due to rampant hax, sploits and lag.
yeah cause making it more like the consoles means more hax? consoles have never had the problem with hacking that the pc's have, so that problem will be way improved. like i said in my previous post, lag has never been an issue. i play cod4 on both pc and xbox and never have lag issues with either.

and again, exploits? how does a lack of dedicated servers mean more exploits? how bout some logic in your dumb arguments.

and before you come up with the 'we cant instaban people anymoar oh noes' reply, thats ridiculous. IW are much more effective at solving the problem than some guy in a dorm room paying 99c a day for a server.

sure we cant get rid of a cheater instantly, but they can be banned form playing online entirely when IW get hold of them, so the problem will be solved permanatly.

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