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Old 12-14-2008, 01:38 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Eh, they experimented on us medically, we experimented on them with nuclear detonations, I think we actually were worse, come to think of it.

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Old 12-14-2008, 02:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Eh, they experimented on us medically, we experimented on them with nuclear detonations, I think we actually were worse, come to think of it.
You guys experimented on yourselves with nuclear detonations lmao
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Old 12-14-2008, 02:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I dont think this is the right place for this. Still i dont really aqree with you.

In fact noone blames the USA for killing millions of pepole with nuclear weapons and so called "peacemaker" aspect.
So i suggest go to some iwiw or whatever you have forum and spam there.

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Old 12-14-2008, 02:41 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Even if i'm pretty young, i know a lots of things from WWII, since i got many members of my family who were/died in French army or in paris' rebellion, and i heard things you would never imagine.

And I came to a point where i think that War is War, and nothing need to be justified during war, nothing needs an explanation, there are no good, nice, cool, ok, war; it's meant to be slaughters, or even those kind of experiments.

War is war, and what's done during it can't be judged by absolutely NOONE.

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Old 12-14-2008, 02:43 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I dont think this is the right place for this. Still i dont really aqree with you.

In fact noone blames the USA for killing millions of pepole with nuclear weapons and so called "peacemaker" aspect.
So i suggest go to some iwiw or whatever you have forum and spam there.
Lol and I suggest you to stfu. The tricky thing though is that I won't listen to your suggestion and I highly doubt you'll listen to mine, so why even bother suggesting, hum?

So you don't agree with me that those experiments were ****ed up? Lol I won't put words in your mouth... what do you disagree with? Me posting this article? Rofl... get the **** outta here.

P.S. sorry for being so harsh on you, I simply hate idiots.

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Old 12-14-2008, 02:57 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I most certainly hope you did not think I was pointing fingers at the Japanese. I thought you could read and you were smarter than that, seriously.
That was and wasn't directed as you. I mean a topic needs a topic. You just happened to choose one involving Japanese. That's cool. A topic needs a topic. But if anybody takes it up as an excuse to bash Japanese people, well, then we have a problem.

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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That was and wasn't directed as you. I mean a topic needs a topic. You just happened to choose one involving Japanese. That's cool. A topic needs a topic. But if anybody takes it up as an excuse to bash Japanese people, well, then we have a problem.
Oh of course...
But I'd be the first one to point someone taking advantage of this topic to expose their racism.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:01 PM   #38 (permalink)
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War is war, and what's done during it can't be judged by absolutely NOONE.
Two things about your post. #1: Don't you dare go there. Maybe its justified to have some relaxed standards. But no standards? Don't **** with me. A human life is still a precious gift. #2: Try me. My parents were Chinese during the Japanese invasion. My best friend's family? They literally were having a dinner when a Japanese bomb fell through their house's roof, crushed their dining table but did not explode. They still count their lucky stars today.

That said, I'm not too happy about seeing all these humanity sucks threads. Can we get some good **** in here? I thought that thread about robots was pretty cool.

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:09 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Agreed. (10)

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:11 PM   #40 (permalink)
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did you know about project mkultra?

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:11 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Two things about your post. #1: Don't you dare go there. Maybe its justified to have some relaxed standards. But no standards? Don't **** with me. A human life is still a precious gift. #2: Try me. My parents were Chinese during the Japanese invasion. My best friend's family? They literally were having a dinner when a Japanese bomb fell through their house's roof, crushed their dining table but did not explode. They still count their lucky stars today.

That said, I'm not too happy about seeing all these humanity sucks threads. Can we get some good **** in here? I thought that thread about robots was pretty cool.
He has a point though, he never intended that people's lives mean nothing but the fact is that when wars occur its always been an eye for an eye. I didn't see americans go "Oh hey lets not bomb Afghanistan, we might hurt innocent civilians." No it was the complete opposite "KILL THOSE MOTEHRFCUEKERS BOMB THEM TILL THEIR COUNTRY DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE". Do I blame americans for saying that? No, 9/11 was a very serious issue and if it would have happened to me and my family would have been in the incident I would have said the same thing.

I just "pray" and hope it won't ever have to come to a world war 3. Well actually its not even a question of if its a question of when.
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:12 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Two things about your post. #1: Don't you dare go there. Maybe its justified to have some relaxed standards. But no standards? Don't **** with me. A human life is still a precious gift. #2: Try me. My parents were Chinese during the Japanese invasion. My best friend's family? They literally were having a dinner when a Japanese bomb fell through their house's roof, crushed their dining table but did not explode. They still count their lucky stars today.

You see human life as a precious gift, i see human like any another animal that as step on any freaking planet that has/is/will exist. However, the "precious life" is soooooooooo precious that fights, wars for power, territories has and will always take place that's how "our nature" is. Now, if your with a loaded gun in front of people shooting at you, all of these humainity crap fades out. Not to mention that if you have standard during a war, you've lost it. Look at all the meaningless papers signed by all the countries at the UN HQ to limit the impact of war, and what is constantly happening in the world.

As for the second one, i won't enter in a "my family suffered more than yours" words fight, just saying that for bombing, my granpas were living at 100m of an airport, i let you imagine as its the primary bombing target during an invasion.

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:14 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Eh, they experimented on us medically, we experimented on them with nuclear detonations, I think we actually were worse, come to think of it.
don't forget the implicit inter-populace experimentation provided by perverting economies and the political malfeasance of social experiments
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Old 12-14-2008, 03:17 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Total war and low intensity war are different, but they are both wars nonetheless.

In defense of the US, the US is pretty friendly with civilians. US soldiers are under strict command to not open fire until they have confirmed that their target is an enemy. How do you think the confirmation process goes? "SHITFCUK THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US!" And if the enemy is hiding in a crowd of innocents and using them as human shields, well, American soldiers are simply SOL. American weapons cost a shitload because they are loaded down with various homing technologies so they can be more precise in hitting their intended targets and not civilians. In fact the US just completed a multi-million project to produce homing artillery shells. Not really homing, but you can control them slightly midflight to adjust for wind and so on. The US is also one of the leading nations in developing non-lethal technologies.

We're a contradiction, I know. But seriously, we developed all that surgical strike weapons for a reason. But at the same time, we want to develop orbital satellite stations so that we may strike other via virtually unstoppable orbital bombardment with weapons that are equivalent in firepower to the original atomic bomb, yet being entirely conventional, are not banned by any WMD laws.

Seriously, despite being a super power, the US is considered one of the most ***** countries by many leading military strategists due to the extremely high public sensitivity to casualties.

If you've read any number of my posts, you'll know I judge the worth of any human purely by their accomplishments. When it comes down to judging people, I'm a lot more harsh and unforgiving than most people I know. But I will still respect a life.

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As for the second one, i won't enter in a "my family suffered more than yours" words fight, just saying that for bombing, my granpas were living at 100m of an airport, i let you imagine as its the primary bombing target during an invasion.
Yes, let's not. Those type of arguments are some of the most ******** waste of breath arguments in existence. I always get an overwhelming sense of "what the **** do you want from me? Pity?" What I meant was just about anybody has one of two stories up their sleeve. You'd have to be extremely lucky to be a special case.

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Old 12-14-2008, 03:40 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Actually, a woman from Montreal was caught in that ****ed up story about mind control and all. Pretty ****ed up too.
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