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Old 10-05-2009, 10:44 AM   #16 (permalink)
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although djn is right to an extent, nobody say that towards DP jelly.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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They are worthwhile, take example the 30 Magic Boost and Accurecy Food, 30 Magic boost result in 2,5% damage boost, if this isn't much then what the heck much do you want? PS end game they give 50 Magic boost and thats equal to an 4% DPS increase you wouldn't have at all.
No it's not. Magic Boost increases your base damage, not your DPS. Assuming you had around 1500 Magic Boost to start with, 50 more would increase your DPS by 1.85%
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Not quite. The first is 1.5 MBoost, almost 4 Macc. The 2nd is 1.5 Mboost, 2 MP. The third is 1.5 attk and 2 hp.

Basically, food is equivalent to the manastones you would put in 1.5 of your items. The blue recipes have better buffs but you'll get better stats and more manastone slots on your blue gear. It's a pretty pathetic improvement imo relative to the cost of leveling the craft and the inconvenience of repeatedly using the food (which is temporary). Food buffs need to be doubled or tripled before the craft will be decent.
While I would like to see an increase to cooking stats they are not quite as bad as you are saying.

level 30 food and level 30 manastones as this is my current bracket in cooking and character level:

sushi= 30 MAcc and 30 MBoost =6 MAcc stones (+5MAcc each) and slightly under 2 MBoost stones (+16MBoost each)

sandwich = 30 MBoost and 120 MP = slightly under 2 MBoost stones (+16MBoost each) and 3 +MP stones (+40 MP each)

steak = 6 PhysAtk and 120 HP = 3 PhysAtk stones (2 atk each) and 3 +Hp stones (+40 HP each)

Because no one really buys food it is pretty cheap. Yea its temporary but you only need to pop it when you are doing some serious questing/grinding..

Also note the small stat differences between a green crafted item and a blue one...
For example: (level 28 armor so fitting with the level 30 examples above)

Aion Armory Item
Physical Def 107 Magic Resist 43
Evasion 59
Magic Boost +10 Maximum MP +43


Aion Armory Item
Physical Def 115 Magic Resist 46
Evasion 63
Magic Boost +14 Maximum MP +58

The difference:
Physical Def 8
Magic Resist 3
Evasion 4
Mboost 4
MP 15
and one manastone socket (which is the biggest benefit IMO....)

Food is a great, cheap way to buff up your player. People have the mentality that its crappy, and thus it feels crappy. BUT when you look at the other ways to improve your stats, I think it stacks up nicely.

*I'm pretty tired and I'm not in game, but hopefully all my numblers are correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong.*

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Old 10-06-2009, 08:36 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I think the biggest reason people are so down on cooking (and this is just my opinion; rip me to shreds, as I'm sure you will) is WoW. Cooking in WoW was effing amazing and the stats you got from food buffs were worth purchasing food or leveling cooking. Food was REQUIRED for most raiding guilds. I think compared to the food buffs in WoW, the food in Aion seems weak to most people. But it isn't; it scales quite nicely with the rest of the stats in game and can really supplement players.

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I think the biggest reason people are so down on cooking (and this is just my opinion; rip me to shreds, as I'm sure you will) is WoW. Cooking in WoW was effing amazing and the stats you got from food buffs were worth purchasing food or leveling cooking. Food was REQUIRED for most raiding guilds. I think compared to the food buffs in WoW, the food in Aion seems weak to most people. But it isn't; it scales quite nicely with the rest of the stats in game and can really supplement players.

Just my two cents.
Uh, what? Food in WoW was horrible and on par with this game. It didn't cost anything to level though which is what makes Aion cooking so bad.

Food in FFXI, now we're talking. A real profession on par with the others.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Aion Armory Item is very very nice

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Aion Armory Item is very very nice
If by very nice you mean almost unnoticeable, yup it is.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:26 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I find people who don't use food to just be silly. It's incredibly cheap and gives you bonuses. You're going to complain over bonuses? It's a simple concept... you either have bonuses (food) or you don't (no food). I would personally like to have something over nothing.

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Everyone saying the sushi is useless, or unnoticable is insane. +30 Macc is the difference between your CC spell landing on an elite and saving your char/group, or not landing and having a wipe with all it's associated costs. The 30MBoost is a nice little bonus, but the MAcc is the equiv of me slotting 3 more Macc stones on my SM.

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So food buffs are very similar to Chanter buffs, which are very well regarded. I think it's interesting that people complain about food but then talk about how great Chanter buffs are-- that Bacora Sushis is IDENTICAL to Magic Mantra II, and it stacks.

Regardless, if you're grinding without an appropriate food/drink, you're doing it wrong. Even the very first food is worthwhile-- 4 damage is 4 manastones of equivalent level.

To those saying 30MA and 30MB is useless, that's a 3% reduced chance to resist for your target and a 2.5% increase to damage. That's amazing for food that costs you a couple hundred kinah a stack.

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Why stop at level 30 foods? It's not like using food is dependant on level.
Esosa Sushi is +40 Magic Boost and +40 Magic Accuracy.
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yea its sad how people are not aware of the benefits of food buffs.

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Why stop at level 30 foods? It's not like using food is dependant on level.
Esosa Sushi is +40 Magic Boost and +40 Magic Accuracy.
Well, Esosa and Megrim aren't exactly easy food to gather for a L20 But it does have a very clear advantage - if you are cooking for your legion (which I and a small team are doing), you only have to make one type of Sushi and can distribute it to any spellcaster in your legion, not just those who are L30. The stat benefit of Esosa Sushi on a L32 sorceror is great, but its frickin' marvellous for your friends who are trying to catch up to your higher level players.

Implemented well, cooking is a good way to boost your legion as a whole. I doubt you'll ever make money out of it in the early days, though.
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when you are grinding for hours, even a 1% boost in your abilities is noticeable.
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Why stop at level 30 foods? It's not like using food is dependant on level.
Esosa Sushi is +40 Magic Boost and +40 Magic Accuracy.
I was just using the level 30 foods/manastones as an example. Oh course food is always an added benefit.
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