Divine Points (DP) do not increase cooking crits

Neyjour · 11-02-2009, 01:19 AM

I've seen some people saying that DP increases the crit rate for crafting, and others who say it doesn't. I wanted to test this out for myself, so I did an experiment today and can confirm that it does not increase crit rate...at least not for cooking.

Note:
I do not consider 1 extra crit (out of 100) to be anything to write home about.

For both tests I crafted "Kirka nyerktail" which was white to me (later turned grey). I decided to do this one since it was pretty much guaranteed that I wouldn't get any failures. I also had a tonn of Vinna and Kirka since I harvest the hell out of those for the petals. You can also turn a bit of a profit (if you gather all the Vinna and Kirka yourself) by simply selling the finished product to the cooking merchant.

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Test 1
Crafting: 100 Kirka nyerktail
DP: 1 full level (2,001 to be precise)
Kirka nyerktail (regular): 146
Tasty Kirka nyerktail (crit): 54

Screenshots:

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Test 2
Crafting: 100 Kirka nyerktail
DP: 1
Kirka nyerktail (regular): 148
Tasty Kirka nyerktail (crit): 52

Screenshots:

kriS411 · 11-02-2009, 04:06 AM

I like how this forum makes nyerktail out of co.cktail...

And well - a sample sice of 100 doesn't really proof much huh.
I don't believe in this DP **** either - I did my alchemy mastery w/o DP, so what.

Raesana · 11-02-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriS411

I like how this forum makes nyerktail out of co.cktail....

Old news!

The DP thing is looking like a rumour across the board, not just cooking.

kriS411 · 11-02-2009, 04:11 AM

*nyerking double post - deleted*

Mayen · 11-02-2009, 04:12 AM

I would try with full DP, not just one level

Neyjour · 11-02-2009, 04:33 AM

Yep, I've been thinking about maybe doing the tests again with full DP. Don't think it'll show any different results, but what the hell...at least we'll know for sure.

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Well, we can now say with absolute certainty that DP does not increase cooking crits, at all.

I just did the experiment again, this time with maximum DP (4,000) and double the amount of crafted product. And I actually got more crits with zero DP. :P

Here are the results:

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Test 3
Crafting: 200 Kirka Co.cktail
DP: 4,000
Kirka Co.cktail (regular): 308
Tasty Kirka Co.cktail (crit): 92

Screenshots:

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Test 4
Crafting: 200 Kirka Co.cktail
DP: 0
Kirka Co.cktail (regular): 302
Tasty Kirka Co.cktail (crit): 98

Screenshots:

Kupofather · 11-03-2009, 04:04 AM

I regularly make thousands of food items.
The crit rate varies anywhere between 15 and 30%.

I've never crafted with DP though.
Sometimes I queue up 1000 pluma steak and get 600 tasties. Sometimes I queue it up and get back 300 tasties. Random number generator is random.
DP is always 0 though.

sporkBrigade · 11-03-2009, 12:27 PM

If nothing else, I like seeing confirmation that crit rate is 25%.

GoldenArrow · 11-04-2009, 09:31 AM

Hahaha, the DP has nothing to do with crits.

The crit rate is based on the day of the week (IRL) and the night/day (ingame).
Also the table you are using has differences. Each "crafting table" has a certain critical rate depending on the time.
But the "hot crafting table" changes around randomly so finding the right table can be time consuming and expensive.

Imagica · 11-04-2009, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupofather

Random number generator is random.

Results may be totally random but it is easy to check if DP affects crit chance, if anyone cares to conduct a proper statistical test.

11-02-2009, 01:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Neyjour Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas, USA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Jidai Class: Spiritmaster Legion: Blood Cabal Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	Divine Points (DP) do not increase cooking crits I've seen some people saying that DP increases the crit rate for crafting, and others who say it doesn't. I wanted to test this out for myself, so I did an experiment today and can confirm that it does not increase crit rate...at least not for cooking. Note: I do not consider 1 extra crit (out of 100) to be anything to write home about. For both tests I crafted "Kirka nyerktail" which was white to me (later turned grey). I decided to do this one since it was pretty much guaranteed that I wouldn't get any failures. I also had a tonn of Vinna and Kirka since I harvest the hell out of those for the petals. You can also turn a bit of a profit (if you gather all the Vinna and Kirka yourself) by simply selling the finished product to the cooking merchant. ---------------------------------------- Test 1 Crafting: 100 Kirka nyerktail DP: 1 full level (2,001 to be precise) Kirka nyerktail (regular): 146 Tasty Kirka nyerktail (crit): 54 Screenshots: ---------------------------------------- Test 2 Crafting: 100 Kirka nyerktail DP: 1 Kirka nyerktail (regular): 148 Tasty Kirka nyerktail (crit): 52 Screenshots: __________________ AION Screenshot Gallery \| AION Character Creation Recipes Last edited by Neyjour; 11-02-2009 at 01:28 AM.. Reason: typo

11-02-2009, 04:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
kriS411 Star Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Class: Ranger Legion: Borked Race: Elyos Server: Votan	I like how this forum makes nyerktail out of co.cktail... And well - a sample sice of 100 doesn't really proof much huh. I don't believe in this DP **** either - I did my alchemy mastery w/o DP, so what. __________________ nyerk nyerk

11-02-2009, 04:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
kriS411 Star Officer Join Date: Jun 2009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Class: Ranger Legion: Borked Race: Elyos Server: Votan	nyerking double post - deleted __________________ nyerk nyerk

11-02-2009, 04:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mayen Soldier Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: EU Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Mayen Class: Spiritmaster Race: Elyos Server: Lumiel	I would try with full DP, not just one level __________________ Down in a hole, losin' my soul Down in a hole, feelin' so small I'd like to fly but my wings have been so denied

11-02-2009, 04:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Neyjour Officer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas, USA Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Jidai Class: Spiritmaster Legion: Blood Cabal Race: Asmodians Server: Lumiel	Yep, I've been thinking about maybe doing the tests again with full DP. Don't think it'll show any different results, but what the hell...at least we'll know for sure. ------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Well, we can now say with absolute certainty that DP does not increase cooking crits, at all. I just did the experiment again, this time with maximum DP (4,000) and double the amount of crafted product. And I actually got more crits with zero DP. :P Here are the results: ---------------------------------------- Test 3 Crafting: 200 Kirka Co.cktail DP: 4,000 Kirka Co.cktail (regular): 308 Tasty Kirka Co.cktail (crit): 92 Screenshots: ---------------------------------------- Test 4 Crafting: 200 Kirka Co.cktail DP: 0 Kirka Co.cktail (regular): 302 Tasty Kirka Co.cktail (crit): 98 Screenshots: __________________ AION Screenshot Gallery \| AION Character Creation Recipes Last edited by Neyjour; 11-02-2009 at 07:37 PM.. Reason: Automerged Double-Post.

11-03-2009, 04:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kupofather Daeva Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Arizona Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Kupwned Class: Spiritmaster Legion: The Moogle Mafia Race: Elyos Server: Kaisinel	I regularly make thousands of food items. The crit rate varies anywhere between 15 and 30%. I've never crafted with DP though. Sometimes I queue up 1000 pluma steak and get 600 tasties. Sometimes I queue it up and get back 300 tasties. Random number generator is random. DP is always 0 though.

11-03-2009, 12:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
sporkBrigade Human Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Character: Bertrum Class: Ranger Legion: Trial By Fire Race: Asmodians Server: Azphel	If nothing else, I like seeing confirmation that crit rate is 25%. __________________ - Bert

11-04-2009, 09:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
GoldenArrow Officer Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Finland Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Character: Phantom Class: Ranger Legion: The Unit Race: Elyos Server: Perento	Hahaha, the DP has nothing to do with crits. The crit rate is based on the day of the week (IRL) and the night/day (ingame). Also the table you are using has differences. Each "crafting table" has a certain critical rate depending on the time. But the "hot crafting table" changes around randomly so finding the right table can be time consuming and expensive. __________________ CB6 <---<< Lagoz >>-----------> 12 - Chanter OB <-------<< Priceless >>------> 25 - Templar Launch <----<< Phantom >>-----> xx - Ranger

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