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Pdef importance

mrJones — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:35:20 GMT

http://www.aionsource.com/forum/mech...ly-2009-a.html

2.2 Physical Attack and Physical Defense

Base calculation: Very simple. Take the physical attack of the attacker and substract from it a tenth of physical defense of the defender. Example: Attack=140 ; Defense = 500 -> average damage equal to 140 - (500 / 10) = 90 HP

so 1000 pdef for example mitigate only 100 dmg. With 1k,1.5k, 2K damage hits at endgame why this stat is so useless? Other "squishy" (but how lack of useless pdef makes them squishy?) classes get Mresist on gear which DO matter. Does this makes sence that some classes get more of useful stat on gear, others do not?

NCsoft, rework pdef into something useful or do less pdef but more mresist for Scout classes, thx.

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p.s.

1] Physical Defense:

You would think physical defense, the main stat on armor would effect your characters physical mitigation to a large extent. After all, that's what separates the big bulky plate wearing templars from cloth wearing sorcerers. But physical mitigation isn't calculated as a percentage based on your level, only an absolute number subtracted from incoming damage. Every 10 physical defense mitigates 1 point of incoming damage per check.

Cursed Mail - Items - Aion
This level 35 BLUE chainmail tunic has 217 defense.

Miragent's Mail - Items - Aion
This level 50 FABLED chainmail tunic, which is the best tunic currently in the game, has 282 defensive.

There is a difference of about 65 defense between these two items. 65/10=6.5. This means that the player wearing the best chainmail tunic in the game will mitigate an additional 6.5 damage per incoming hit over the player wearing the mediocre level 35 blue tunic. When elites are hitting you for 4,500 and players are hitting you for 1,000+ what difference does 6.5 damage make? Assuming a mob swings for 3,500 damage on both players:

35 blue chainmail tunic: 3500 damage taken.

50 fabled miragent tunic: 3493.5 damage taken.

That's a difference of 0.001857% mitigation between a medium level tunic and the best chainmail tunic IN THE GAME when calculated against the average level 50 elite's hit.

Poison Mechanic change

Roslinn — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:58:24 GMT

Just thought I'd toss this into the Scout forum as a heads-up since it affects both of our classes.

Poisons don't prevent flight activation since the newest patch, so don't rely on it in PvP anymore.

Unknown if this is a bug or intentional.

Tonight, we dine in hell

.violence — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:53:52 GMT

OK, but seriously, get ready for the [MASSIVE] Aethertwisting nerf. :cry:

New and donno wot to pick :S

sherifelabd — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:32:24 GMT

well guys im pretty new to the game =/ and i rly rly dunno wot to pick:S i like the mage but they seem to be too squishy, glad looks cool but dunno about the melee in this game as well as sin, rangers were cool in wow so maybe they r here dunno :S

but i think ive narrowed it down to ranger or glad till now, the question is, r the rangers boring?? is it simply standing from far far away and pew pewing all the time?

why is my damage so low as a scout

rawrbear — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:11:29 GMT

As a Lv5 scout why am I only hitting 1 to 2 damage on mobs? I'm dual wielding Merc Swords bought from the vendors

Hide I and Hide II not really that hidden?

Feign — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:26:57 GMT

So what all sees through hide because I'm not finding that hide actually hides me most times. I have had a gladiator follow and unhide me in hide II and it wasn't like he got lucky he ran right at me.

Ranger or Assassin

Gris — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:50:31 GMT

Hey,

I know there are plenty of similar threads out here but they are either to old (pre-release) and i don't really know if the people know what they are talking about or they cover mostly pve.

As main i'm playing a sorc, mostly in groups, and want to make a stealther toon but can't decide between ranger and sin. Played both to lvl11 but you can't really say much at that lvl.

I mostly want to do solo rifting/solo abyss pvp with this class. I know i can do that with my sorc too but i really like stealther twinks for that :D

So what would you recommend if you wouldnt care about pve or mass pvp? Sin would be a nice because it would be really different from my sorc. But i heard they have problems in the abyss cause most skills don't work in airial combat. They have the better stealth but i can't really compare cause i don't know how much difference there is. On the other hand i like ranged classes that can kite and have a lot of instant skills. I would play both but don't have the time... lvling isn't the fastet in aion and neither of them will be my main char ;)

tia for your answers
Gris

please don't mind my bad english. it's not my main language.

Sin Downtime when Grinding?

shahmat — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:16:42 GMT

Is it that bad...I have the Ability to twink one out ( 36 Sorc ) and just curious....Is it bandage after every fight? Casters hard to deal with?

Making the switch: Ranger or Assassin

Mickael — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:08:38 GMT

I've played my gladiator close to 40 and I'm getting a bit bored with him. I will continue to level him to 50 but I'd like to level an alt just in case I get to 50 and I don't like him. To be honest, I've been let down by my gladiator a lot.

I've been looking at either a ranger or an assassin because I love the play styles. Both seem to be able to take care of themselves, both hit hard and have great dps. Both also require some skill to play and I really enjoy sitting down and learning the class inside and out.

I just don't know what class to pick. I love doing melee damage/dps, but the rangers ability to solo and CC really intrigues me. I guess I just need suggestions of which to go. I want to be able to solo, hit hard and fast. Is the CC ability of the ranger worth it to overlook the great dps/damage of the assassin? I hear that assassins have a ton of keybindings but their damage isn't that based upon luck and that rangers do go through mana pots a lot more.

Any suggestions would be great. I need a vacation from my gladiator.

Attack Speed +, which is it better for?

Criticalol — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:57:14 GMT

Right now I have a 33 Assassin and a 27 Ranger. I like both classes really, but that's a given since I suffer from playing a lot of alts. Both characters I have crafting on due to the fact that I like to craft my own gear. I want to get expert tailoring on one of them for now (both are level 200 tailoring at the moment). Given the fact that getting expert is extremely pricey I will pick one. Both are at or near the level of benefiting from the Expert Noble Strong series, the one that I'm looking at in particular is the gloves and the boots for the attack speed and simple speed increases. Given the fact that I have the level 30 Daeva armor on the Assassin and can easily get it on the Ranger when I hit 30, I figure I would craft the Expert Noble Strong gloves and boots and use 2 pieces of the Daeva gear as the other parts.

I've noticed that with Assassin it's very gear dependent. Both characters are wearing full blues at the moment. I'm wondering which of the two characters I should give my first set of Expert Noble gear to first?

Sin or Ranger? Watch my 48 sin live feed!

Tashohnie — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:50:36 GMT

Well just for anyone who wants to know what PvE is like on a sin...

Im grinding 49 mobs and I'm half asleep so forgive me if I die!

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Off-tanking non ranged mobs as ranger.

Ojike — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:51:45 GMT

You can kite non ranged mobs easily as ranger, if you hit and kite well. That's something i have noticed. I love my ranger.
Will get it to 50 before i get any other char to 50.

LF vids

yazziel — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:35:28 GMT

Kinda looking for ranger or assassin vids that are recommendable. Ya i know i can search randomly on youtube but would rather here some recommendations from ppl on these forums. The type of vid that makes you say '' damm this vid really makes me want to roll x class''.

Preferable not to much outdated ones.

Ty.

Better grinder Sin or Ranger?

Dabrixmgp — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:31:12 GMT

Looking for a new class since Templar is kinda boring me. Guess I dont like tanking. Which out of ranger and sin will grind faster and thus level faster? Templar is at 290 alchemy so I can make all the pots I need to help level.

Ranger-- king of Abyss?

Rizzice — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:30:13 GMT

I'm trying to find a class that can own in abyss, which includes aerial combat. I see a lot of PvP videos of templars owning and assassins owning, but those are in tournaments where wings aren't allowed, and combat is extremely limited. I've been looking for a class that can function in all-around PvP, whether it's group, abyss, or rifting, but I just can't seem to decide.

I'm heavily considering becoming a ranger, but I'm just wondering what weaknesses the ranger has besides really low defense? It seems any lack of defense can be made up by kiting, but I'm not completely sure since I haven't experienced the game at 50. Sad thing is, a lot of people who will reply to this probably haven't either, so I don't even know how much this will help >.<

Turning into animals?

Lucean — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:11:54 GMT

I saw a few people turning into animals and would like to know which job class this is a trait of or skill. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Which is better with Off-Weapon?

Yurdaddy — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:23:06 GMT

Are Rangers better with swords/daggers or are Assassins better with the bow?

My guess is that Rangers are better with the sword/dagger.

PS - If you didn't know, assassins die A LOT while leveling!

Ranger and Assassin

Kensei69 — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:17:37 GMT

I was wondering, what is the main difference between the Ranger and the Assassin class? I know one is ranged and one is melee, but if both classes can wield both bows and daggers, then what's the main difference?

Do Assassins get more ranged/bow skills than a Ranger gets dagger skills?

I'm trying to decided whether to go Assassin or Ranger, hence my question/confusion.

Scout Duo

Deos — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:35:44 GMT

Me and my brother are going to play 2 scouts to sneak up and gank people. He s going to play Assassin but I cant decide if it would be better for me to play an Assassin as well or if a Ranger would be better for adding diversity to our group.

Assassin + Assassin for double the *** kicking
Assassin + Ranger for versitility and ranged dmg

edit: Would the assassin overlap to much with their runes?

what stones should i use for a sout

Tiff — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:14:54 GMT

i was woundering which stone are better for a scout?

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sorry what i ment to say was which manastone are good for a scout..lol :what:

Which has more DPS? Ranger vs. Sin [lv. 30]

Balance5135 — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:22:14 GMT

Hi, yes I used the search engine, and yes, there is a total count of 5 threads similar to this once SINCE release (headstart).
But since me and my friend hit 30, I am a Ranger and he is an Assassin, which does better dps? [lv.30]

Obviously the first thing thats going through your head is " what a dumb azz.. I mean couldn't they just duel or fight mobs?!" yeah well I wish we could. We're on different servers O.o.

So, me and my friend were wondering if we should switch classes, seeing as though we a both the same level, I have more friends on Siel, and he has more friends on Zikiel.

So at [lv.30], what does more dps?

I think it might be that Rangers have more burst, but Sin's have more dmg over time (DEEPS).

Can I change from Sin to Rng and vice versa?

Aziz — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:30:22 GMT

I'm still at level 10, is it possible?

Macro questions

vinhnyc — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:24:27 GMT

Is there a way to link the Skill cool down into the Macro Icon ? just like WOW ?

Using bows sin vs ranger?

Andriel — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:19:28 GMT

Is one class better than the other with a bow? Can u use the same arrows? Is a bow usful for a sin?

Dual-weilding two daggers, or a dagger and a sword?

Darverses — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:41:24 GMT

Because I've got a Night Sky Sword, Fiendish Dagger, and Aldelle Dagger.. and I don't know if I should dual-weild two daggers or the Night Sky and Fiendish.