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Abyss points grinding @ lvl50?

MickeyMouse — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:37:13 GMT

How fast is it grind AP with farming guards? If I start with 10 000 AP, how many hours roughly until I'm a 1-star officer?

Dumb Question

Hesitate — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:29:15 GMT

How do you end a duel or have it be a "draw"?

Abyss silver & gold medals

Nagal — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:41:16 GMT

When you ATTACK a fortress how is the medals devided? Because if you are in a party its not devided equally, our cleric didnt get any. Only one person got medals witch were the only high dps class we had in our grp so is it only dmg thats counted when it comes to Attacking?

Where do you get <[Group] Confront Asmodian Officers>

Reikai — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:41:14 GMT

I've finished killing 10 Rank 1 asmos... but I'm looking to get this quest:

[Group] Confront Asmodian Officers - Quests - Aion

I'm just wondering where do I get this quest?

Dredgion Mob Training - Quick fix?

Azzer — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:21:54 GMT

On our server it's got to the stage where the majority of groups we face in Dredgion runs are from a particular guild with a bad reputation (even with their own side), who will do nothing but try to train mobs right from the very beginning (running one after the other from their spawn point directly to yours, while trying to send a couple of people soon after to "ninja" the surkanas for quick points). While this can be endured, and such tactics can be beaten with perseverence and gradually clearing a path through, it's simply not fun, and requires no talent on the part of the enemy (any attempts at genuine Dredgion runs has quickly shown no talent from them - up to enjoying a lovely final score of 40 PVP kills to 0 :P).

So I just thought - wouldn't a really simple and quick fix be to stop mobs "dropping aggro" on the opposite faction if the opposite faction had not built up any aggro at all?

For example, let's say "Bob" from Elyos faction trains 10 Balaur through 2 rooms in to the Asmo group. The Asmo's do no AOE's and nothing of any kind to the Balaur, and so are not on their aggro list. When Bob dies (from the mobs or from the Asmo's, or a mix of both), the Balaur should now do their usual mob reset, because they have nobody else in range that's in their aggro list, and they are X metres away from their spawn point.

Currently, they will instantly dump all aggro on the Asmo group instead.

Anyone can do this "mob training", from either side, and sadly it requires no abilities, no real tactics, and I am sure is not the intended way for Dredgion runs to play through - especially a group doing it for the entire course of a Dredgion run, beginning to end.

Is there any possible abuse to this "quick fix" of stopping the instant aggro dump to the enemy faction unprovoked? As long as that doesn't provide any new forms of abuse, then can we get it in? It'll help keep Dredgion runs to a bit more their "intended play".

(please nobody bring up Fear shriek or SM's in this thread, this is purely about mob training).

Dancing Glad PvP Vidz (in HD with combat analysis :D!)

NaJJ — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:02:53 GMT

Evasion Glad O RLY o.O?

Out in the Abyss...

YouTube- NaJ's Abyss PvP as a Dancing Gladiator

In Teminon's Landing

YouTube- Aion Duel Dancing Glad 43 Naj vs Sin 46 Steb 2

YouTube- Aion Duel Dancing Glad 43 Naj vs Sin 46 Steb 1

Siege PvP Vid coming up, enjoy X)!

more guards? seriously?

Knutzi — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:57:17 GMT

so now it appears that the idiots over at nc thought it would be a nice idea to add tons of boss guards at red mane cave so that rifting now just got even more useless... how can they even call this a pvp game in the first place? : (

The perfect solution to Aion class balance

gessekai — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:03:04 GMT

Wait, now that i think about it. Even with this change i think that clerics might be a bit op...

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Guard Towers useless?

falc410 — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:21:55 GMT

Well I wanted to turn in a quest in Upper Abyss but a few Asmos were close to the guard tower. I thought that I'd be safe at the guard tower, but those 3 Asmos - only lvl 40 - stormed towards me, they didn't even care that the guard tower and npc's were on them.
I mean wth do we have the tower for if it's useless? It didn't even scratch those asmos.

What is the most OP class in PvP?

gessekai — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:28:18 GMT

Just curious, which class does everyone think is the most OP in pvp?

Mod Edit: Added "Spiritmaster" as the last option.

SM pets can taunt you in PvP!?

Venicore — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:56:16 GMT

I dont usually duel but this spiritmaster challenged me so I figured what the hell. We were both level 20 so he didnt have fear. I had the SM targeted and ran towards him before the duel started to try and get his shield down. After my first attack landed I saw him cast so figured it was gonna be the pet attack then for some reason I switched from him to his pet. At first I thought OK i must have accidentally clicked on his pet. Then it happened 3 more times before I finally was able to win. Please tell me there isnt some retarded bug that actually lets pets taunt players?

Drop's From Player's?

ZogJhones — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:35:22 GMT

Well, i think that it would be a good idea, that if in PVP, whether its by rifting or Abyss, whenever you kill somebody of the other side, they should leave something behind, by this i dont mean something they use they're hard-earned money for, something like, oh, lets say, "Asmodian Feather", which would only have around 30% of dropping, and, if in a group, people would have to roll for it.

The feather could be sold for a semi-high price on broker, or used for materials (crafting), my idea also is, that the feather DROPS, so the victim docent teleport away, leaving the killer/group with no prize.

What do you guy's think?
What would be your suggestion's?

OMG that guy turned into a TREE!!!

Ooby — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:48:14 GMT

Your next thought should be, "I shouldn't hit that guy that just turned into a tree because the Sorc who did it to him is winding up for the uber lock down massive damage spell that takes forever and a day to set up and cast."

Your next thought should NOT be, "Hey look, free whack's. I'm gonna run up to this guy who WAS running away until the super nice Sorc turned him into a tree, and I'm going to haul off and hit him for 300 damage and hope I crit for 900 damage so that I can get the kill shot. I don't care if I only hit him for 300 and break the tree so that he can run away because I have no way in the world to stop him once I hit him and break the tree."

In short. If we CC it, DON'T hit it. This happens ALL the time in PvP, and you know what, most of the time the char we turn into a tree is a CLERIC!!!

Azphel's curse is broken.

Flaming — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:18:12 GMT

Someone explain to me how that makes any sense whatsoever.

why close my thread?

incisorr — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:56:21 GMT

yes its true masto the ancient is very imba, but bah i guess you moderators couldnt know since ur all lowbies from spamming forums all day and locking wonderful threads such as mine

racism and favoritism

incisorr — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:33:41 GMT

are so obvious, devs must hate elyos and worship asmos

*asmo eyes glow
*asmos flip on jumps
*asmo gold weapon quest is soloable and much easier than elyos one , who gives a nyerk u need 43 to start it instead 41 , its much easier than elyos one and takes less time
*belusian sucks balls because the only way to pass from left to right half as elyos is to go thru red mane cavern which has guards and asmos, while heiron is open like a nyerking book seriously what the nyerk?
* elthen is also open like book while morheim isnt since theres a nyerking wall with guards on it which you have to pass if u wanna go to sprigg habbitat, OH AND YES I KNOW HOW TO PASS IT SO stfu , many people dont and im not sure ncsoft wanted elyos to pass it since they put a wall there with guards
*with no forts taken in abyss, asmos have way better towers
*asmo capital town is much better than elyos one(atleast from what i can see on map) , you know fellow asmos, elyos got nyerking outter dock and to go there u gotta wait a boat for 3 min then u fly2 min then when ur done with ur job on outter dock u gotta wait 3 min more and then 2 min more, so yeah there you go wasting 10 min every time u go do some quest in outter dock, which are kinda alot, and entrance to steel rake is there also.
Elyos also got nyerking elevator near the artisans hall which u gotta take if u wanna learn skills or talk to npcs or put stigma, and elyos dont have WH near the artisans hall like asmos do, so if i count the time i lost for WH/Waiting boat/Elevator i couldve been 2 levels higher , no wonder why asmos were higher lvl than elyos at start HUH?H?!?!!?
*asmos got better emotions
* masto the ancient is a nyerking beast, and since hes near rift entr for elyos they are easily fooled by his innocent appearance and get slaughtered by him ~~~~~
*Storm Circle in heiron, YA RIGHT u dont get hit by elite mobs u got stupid boss to hide on and u know whats the funny part? Bollvig isnt even a nyerking asmo , i checked his butt he doesnt have ugly mane there , and i seriously doubt hes smart enough to shave it to get his beloved elyos chick

THOSE are the reasons i can think of, im sure there are more i couldnt remember and im sure there are more that i dont know about , such as asmo main quests being easier , their farm zones being easier
and whats the price asmos have to pay?

*their female chars have horse feet
*heiron has more bosses than belusian... oh wait , without this because hows that a good thing? Asmos can make raid alliances and get the bosses as well , its not like any elyos force can stop you UNLESS they know bout you, but thats gonna be kinda hard if u cover urself, and if they know bout you then you get a mass , not too big non-laggy awesome group pvp , and elyos cant get that since belusian sucks and the only raid there is masto the imbalanced, which like i said in my point above is near the rift entr so elyos raid alliance cant even venture thru belusian to get pvps and raids and stuff like asmos can in heiron

kinda unfair dont ya tink.

Your favorite Dredgion setup.

Lieto — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:32:36 GMT

Post it here -)

Two clerics, templar, sm and 2 rangers worked awesome for us.
Even though i dont have a lot of practice as lvl 49 for now.

Rangers basically keep mortal strike at all times, 2 dispellers, SM with bodyguard, good burst, lots of cc, 3 silences. strong healing, long range attacks with constant stunning, whole floor covered in traps and lots more. Awesomeness -))

What is strange is how surprisingly better 2 clerics are then cleric+chanter. Probably just because chanter is forced to heal most of the time while cleric is nuked or CCed and thats not smth he does the best. Also 2 dispels are pure love.

If you can't win..log out

-Richardo- — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:58:30 GMT

I recently hit 49, and to celebrate my new level, I thought Id go do some abyss, and see how hard I get ganked by the 50s up there.

So there I am, quietly looking like an innocent Pve'r killing the mobs around Krotan, when I spies a red dot heading towards me on the map, I brace myself for incoming gankage...or payback. The offending red dot becomes visible as a ranger, and of course bravely engages me as Im seemingly otherwise occupied, like the pro-player (sarcasm) I am, I pop my wings and drop the mob and proceed to engage the ranger. This is gonna be tough, he's rank 1, and has taken me before a few times, but I'm brave and stupid, so I'm damn well gonna do my best or die trying!

An epic battle ensues with much kiting, potion taking, interrupting, flying, running and all that good Pvp stuff, finally it looks like Im gaining the upper hand, he's recently potted, is at 40% and falling into the range when I can nuke him down...OH my lord! IM GODLIKE,.. shaking in my chair...such sweet revenge for all the ganks hes done on me while leveling......*ding*......huh ...wait..what? The ranger has completely disappeared...check combat log...no hide message... check ground..no Asmo splat from falling. Feeling a little disappointed and perplexed, I get a whisper asking if I wanna heal an instance for a buddy, and of course being the nice guy I am and slightly deflated, I agree to be his healbot and head off to SR.

Later that day my regular tank buddy suggests we go guard farming, we aimlessly wander about, and eventually find ourselves at divine fort, seems there aren't any guards here we can get to worth killing, so we start to exit the core....Hey its my ranger friend again! Maybe we can take him out this time....Inescapable judgment lands, I wind up my root.....*DING*.. ranger disappears again :angry:

Next day, I log in and see my tank buddy is still on line, the crazy fool has been farming Guards all night, and starts regaling me with his tails of AP gain and loss, and finding that ranger again, and fighting with him until *DING* ranger vanishes like morning mist in sunlight.

Okay by this time my interest is piqued, we are pretty sure this guy is logging out, but as we all know, you have to wait 10 secs before you leave the game, right? So there's no way you can instantly log if things go bad..RIGHT?

So I spend some time experimenting with a friend, I stand beside him and try various methods of leaving the game and it does seem you can have almost complete control over when you leave the game.

Method one:- second client
Have Aion fired up on another PC, with your log -in details typed in, but don't press enter. If things go bad, hit enter on the log in screen, within 3-5 second your character will be kicked from the game on the first screen.

Method two:- constant logout
Bind a key to the /quit command, this means you can instantly start a logout timer, and cancel the logout as it reaches 2-3 seconds by hitting escape, then hit you logout keybind again. Okay its a bit clumsy, but definably usable against slow killers like Templars and clerics, giving you a median time of 5 seconds to decide if to bail. Also has the benefit that if you see multiple hostiles on your map, you hit your logout keybind, by the time they've engaged you, your logout time will be expired...adios! Also the logout time dialog doesn't prevent you from playing the game at all, so your perfectly free to fight and take someone out then bail before his buddy finishes you off.

Any road up some top tips taught to me by a pro rank 1 player, I hope you find them useful until it becomes a big enough problem for NC to fix.

I have a dream... of good PvP

Roymachine — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:34:26 GMT

I have a dream of a game that has good PvP, of a game that provides open FFA pvp, but also the ability to RvR/GvG.

I have a dream of a game that has balanced PvP, where time and care is taken to make sure the PvP is balanced and focused on group play and the community. where each side has different classes but the same capabilities based on group setup to provide balance yet diverse gameplay styles and preferences, where the casters can get interrupted by any damage thus encouraging more team play.

I have a dream of a game that is based completely 100% off of PvP and is geared completely towards that, where the PvE is minimal and the gear lasts longer than 2 months.

I have a dream where new PvE isn't added every every 2 months to keep the PvErs happy while the PvPers are forced to PvE in order to do what they want.

I have a dream of a game that focuses more on individual player skill working together in a team to beat another team of equal size without worrying about gear coming into perspective or worrying about another group coming to blow you up, where the players are honorable and the PvP is respectable, fair, and balanced, not unlike Fox News.

I have a dream of a game that rewards you with abilities for PvPing, rather than more gear.

I have a dream of a game where end game is a PvP, where the devs don't have to worry about coming out with new PvE content every few months because the players are enjoying themselves day in and day out in PvP.

I have a dream of a game that does not take 6 hours a day 7 days a week to be competitive with everyone else or just to keep up with game development, where you can play a few hours a couple nights a week and have just as much fun as anyone else.

I have a dream of guilds that run a set group of people at group cap without zerging.

This dream dwindled in 2003 with the release of Trials of Atlantis for DAoC, but it still lives on if you can find a group to play with. Will there ever be another game like DAoC? Not likely. Aion doesn't even come close. DAoC lives through a select few free servers and the last few thousand players on live.

Live DAoC in its current form still beats every single other RvR game in existance. So why am I still playing Aion. Why are you?

6 SM party vs 6 Cleric party

gessekai — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:57:06 GMT

who do you guys think would win??

How to beat this group?

willwill — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:51:21 GMT

SM,Clr,Chanter,Templar 2x rangers All geared with great gear and knowledge on at least how to play.

Waiting.

There needs to be more ways to get into pvp.

Blog Monster — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:07:16 GMT

Right now things are so erratic it's kind of annoying. When ever I find people to kill they never come back. I don't even care about ap or new gear, just want to find someone to fight : /

Looking for armor that looks like Researcher's tunic?

Hemogoblin — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:02:56 GMT

Is there any armor that looks like Researcher's Tunic on Elyos side? I'm searching for something like that for remodeling for days and can't find it.

This is how it looks like:

I'm also wondering if there is something that looks like Worthy Noble Sobi Tunic also for remodeling.

[Guide] How to solo an upper artifact

kyris? — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 08:18:23 GMT

How to solo an Upper Artifact!

requires level 46+

Step 1: clear all the mobs around the artifact
Step 2: find a place where you can LoS (line of sight) the boss so he can't hit you. it needs to be close to him.
Step 3: agro the boss and fly to your safe place
Step 4: wait untill he starts casting 'Throw Trap' - when he casts this, you have about 5 seconds to fly in and hit him a few times
Step 6: you must be out of his LoS/range before he finishes casting 'Arrow Storm' or it will hit you for 4k damage
Step 7: after he casts 'Arrow Storm', 2 traps will spawn beneath you. avoid them, then wait till he starts casting 'Throw Trap again...
Step 8: repeat step 4 untill he dies :D

so basically; while he is casting 'Throw Trap' he won't attack you for a few seconds (untill he finish casting Arrow Storm) so use this time to dps him.

this works much better with a ranged class, but if you are fast at flying in to hit him then melee can do it too!

this was done at the artifact just north of Roah, which imo is probably the easiest place to do it since there is a great place to LoS the bosss -- but the method will work on all artifact ^^

video:
YouTube- Aion - How to solo an Artifact

doesn't give much AP but hey, its a nice little challenge! :D

p.s if artifact mobs respawn, pull them 36+ yards away from the boss and kill them. the boss cant move so you are safe to kill them and the boss shouldn't reset.

Please vote for AION!

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