Who actually enjoys grinding? - Page 3

Orphaned · 11-16-2007, 02:30 AM

it is all grinding, you either grind:

Dungeon xp
Quest xp
Mob xp

to each his own, i hope it is split evenly.

Aeterna · 11-16-2007, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orphaned

it is all grinding, you either grind:

Dungeon xp
Quest xp
Mob xp

to each his own, i hope it is split evenly.

What people mean with grinding is killing mobs just for their xp/drops. Not for a quest or dungeon which would hold extra rewards. Simply just killing (the same) monsters over and over and over again for the sake of it.

Rizzmoe · 11-16-2007, 05:18 AM

Who doesn't know this situation: You're looking for the golden srcewdriver and there are only a handfull of mobs dropping it, all your friends got one and you spend ages grinding and have absolutely no luck! That drives me crazy, no fun at all!

Ipmia · 11-16-2007, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizzmoe

Who doesn't know this situation: You're looking for the golden srcewdriver and there are only a handfull of mobs dropping it, all your friends got one and you spend ages grinding and have absolutely no luck! That drives me crazy, no fun at all!

you know, some people simply call that farming

grinding is a issue for lot of people when you HAVE to do it.. when its something optionnal then its you're call and in no way you can blame anyone for you re decision to go that way

Yxeri · 11-16-2007, 08:09 AM

A large part of the people who have a lot of time to grind are usually in that "noob group". Grinding a lot does not make you into a good player. Though I agree with you on the other part. I hope it takes some time to get to max level. I want to be able to play Aion for longer than a month before I reach and have to spend the rest of my time grinding the same end-game stuff over and over again (WoW style).

I enjoy grinding in a team that works together and who can still have fun at the same time. I do not enjoy grinding as a overly serious team for items (WoW). I HATE grinding alone. I don't have the patience to grind without company. That is just pure boring. A MMO that is built in such a way that it requires you to team up is what I like.

It can get tedious to kill the same mob over and over again, but as long as the developers of the game add variations to each area with dynamic mobs it won't be a problem for me.

Meleoffs · 11-16-2007, 08:32 AM

Basically, you like anything FFXI style, just with different mobs in the different zones. >.>

Koji · 11-16-2007, 09:13 AM

"Talking about removing grind from MMO's is all very well until you think about it because grind is the only thing that keeps people playing MMO's for so long and removing it will be like removing the crazy from Richard Garriott. Besides every MMO so far has had it's grind right up the bum and it doesn't seem to stop people playing them. Some people just like that sorta thing i guess?" - Yahtzee

Truth?

Santa · 11-16-2007, 09:35 AM

well i just hope it takes at least 2 to 3months of casual playing to reach max lvl

SepiD · 11-16-2007, 09:37 AM

Long grind = high lvls pro's?...hell no. It takes almoust 0 skill to level up your char, it just consumes **** load of time that you could be doing something else.
(A.k.A high level mass pvp? sieges? those are something that actually even require some sort of clan organization skills)

Long grind = more bots + Only peoples who dedicate 1-3 years of their life will reach the top without botting (lineage 2...)

Short grind with lots of content = Casual and HC players can enjoy it...

Also MMORPG could be done without actual grind...
No levels.. only gears
you would get gears by completing dungeons. :F

Ipmia · 11-16-2007, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SepiD

Long grind = high lvls pro's?...hell no. It takes almoust 0 skill to level up your char, it just consumes **** load of time that you could be doing something else.
(A.k.A high level mass pvp? sieges? those are something that actually even require some sort of clan organization skills)

Long grind = more bots + Only peoples who dedicate 1-3 years of their life will reach the top without botting (lineage 2...)

Short grind with lots of content = Casual and HC players can enjoy it...

Also MMORPG could be done without actual grind...
No levels.. only gears
you would get gears by completing dungeons. :F

you refering to lvling not to grind.

it doesnt require much skil to lvl in L2 indeed beside dedication, but at least you can pretty much make the difference beteen someone that jsut ebayed hes lvl 80 HE with someone that actually lvled him up. that the point of lvling

so you dont come screw up other fun with you re high lvl toon that you dont even know how to play.

you dont know what i mean ? go join pickup groups with fresh lvl 60/70 in wow that arent rerolls.

Disturbing · 11-16-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronald

I have noticed after reading the forums alot of people are hoping that there is not much grinding. I am actually hoping that aion requires a bit of time to lvl from 1-50, I hate games that alow you to lvl too fast.
It helps seperate the "noobs" from the people who are serious about the game. It also makes you feel like you really earn't the strength of your lvl 50 character. Would be no where near as fun if you could lvl incredibly quickly

What do you think?

Well, I don't believe you have to GRIND to get level 50. But by your means in making the game a lot harder than it is going to be, yes I do agree. I actually think that they should have different "rates" in different types of servers. Easy , harder, and medium rate servers, But if you want to grind 1 - 50, you can do it. If you want to quest 1 - 50, yo u can do that too. But yes, /agree on needing to take 5 - 6 months to get 1 - 50 for the average player.

(I believe Lineage II is too hard of a grind to get 78 =p)

~DisTurBinG

Cynthe · 11-16-2007, 11:06 AM

If you time to watch tv while playing a game, then something's not right imo. ^_^;

Rex Hansen · 11-16-2007, 11:33 AM

I consider grinding to be a necessary evil. In any case some developers think its "fun" to run its customers though tons of monsters who don't do anything unless you hit them first.

Meh...

Lavi · 11-16-2007, 11:51 AM

I enjoy grinding. In some games, it's not as easy to grind (i mean grinding faster than most people). You got to find ways, what in the game mechanics allow you to do massive pulls, find the right gear to do so.
Granted it's dumb when everyone starts to know the "fast ways" but I enjoy looking for these fast ways.

2-3 months to reach max level seems a bit short to me. Half a year would me satisfying me much more.

Stubbsy · 11-16-2007, 01:28 PM

I dont mind a grind that takes some real skill, which really does seperate the good players from the not so good...
Also I dont mind a Semi-Long grind, just stop the game cap being reached within a week, and therefore all PvP being boring since everyone is at the level cap.
I like it when people are at different stages.

On the other hand I'm not wasting 2 years off my life although which may be fun - could be years of work gone when they decide to turn those servers off. Just remember its not real, and most of the time not worth spending YEARS of time getting some different colour pixels which wont last forever.

IMO games are worth playing, but not worth being made life. Grind makes games a life, which is suckage. I'd rather be gettin laid than grinding, put it that way.

11-16-2007, 02:30 AM	#31 (permalink)
Orphaned Daeva Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Rhode Island Race: Asmodians	it is all grinding, you either grind: Dungeon xp Quest xp Mob xp to each his own, i hope it is split evenly. __________________ Holding Breath Unitl Released.

11-16-2007, 09:13 AM	#37 (permalink)
Koji Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Middlesbrough, UK Class: Assassin Legion: Freelancer Race: Elyos	"Talking about removing grind from MMO's is all very well until you think about it because grind is the only thing that keeps people playing MMO's for so long and removing it will be like removing the crazy from Richard Garriott. Besides every MMO so far has had it's grind right up the bum and it doesn't seem to stop people playing them. Some people just like that sorta thing i guess?" - Yahtzee Truth? __________________ UK Members Join The British Empire

11-16-2007, 09:35 AM	#38 (permalink)
Santa Daeva Join Date: Apr 2007 Race: Elyos	well i just hope it takes at least 2 to 3months of casual playing to reach max lvl __________________ aion open beta info

11-16-2007, 09:37 AM	#39 (permalink)
SepiD Daeva Join Date: Oct 2007 Race: Elyos	Long grind = high lvls pro's?...hell no. It takes almoust 0 skill to level up your char, it just consumes **** load of time that you could be doing something else. (A.k.A high level mass pvp? sieges? those are something that actually even require some sort of clan organization skills) Long grind = more bots + Only peoples who dedicate 1-3 years of their life will reach the top without botting (lineage 2...) Short grind with lots of content = Casual and HC players can enjoy it... Also MMORPG could be done without actual grind... No levels.. only gears you would get gears by completing dungeons. :F __________________ Currently waiting for Devil May Cry 4 and Grand theft auto 4.

11-16-2007, 11:06 AM	#42 (permalink)
Cynthe Subscriber Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Blog Entries: 3 Class: Chanter Legion: Genesis Race: Elyos	If you time to watch tv while playing a game, then something's not right imo. ^_^; __________________ The wisdom of hindsight is always flawless\|Inattentive Obsession\|Xfire\|

11-16-2007, 05:18 AM	#33 (permalink)
Rizzmoe Daeva Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Race: Elyos	Who doesn't know this situation: You're looking for the golden srcewdriver and there are only a handfull of mobs dropping it, all your friends got one and you spend ages grinding and have absolutely no luck! That drives me crazy, no fun at all!

11-16-2007, 08:09 AM	#35 (permalink)
Yxeri Human Join Date: Nov 2007 Race: Elyos	A large part of the people who have a lot of time to grind are usually in that "noob group". Grinding a lot does not make you into a good player. Though I agree with you on the other part. I hope it takes some time to get to max level. I want to be able to play Aion for longer than a month before I reach and have to spend the rest of my time grinding the same end-game stuff over and over again (WoW style). I enjoy grinding in a team that works together and who can still have fun at the same time. I do not enjoy grinding as a overly serious team for items (WoW). I HATE grinding alone. I don't have the patience to grind without company. That is just pure boring. A MMO that is built in such a way that it requires you to team up is what I like. It can get tedious to kill the same mob over and over again, but as long as the developers of the game add variations to each area with dynamic mobs it won't be a problem for me.

11-16-2007, 08:32 AM	#36 (permalink)
Meleoffs Daeva Join Date: Jul 2007 Legion: Reconsidering. Race: Undecided	Basically, you like anything FFXI style, just with different mobs in the different zones. >.>

11-16-2007, 11:33 AM	#43 (permalink)
Rex Hansen Daeva Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida. Legion: Genesis Race: Elyos	I consider grinding to be a necessary evil. In any case some developers think its "fun" to run its customers though tons of monsters who don't do anything unless you hit them first. Meh... __________________ "I believe in this light I see."

11-16-2007, 11:51 AM	#44 (permalink)
Lavi Daeva Join Date: Feb 2007 Legion: Blacktide	I enjoy grinding. In some games, it's not as easy to grind (i mean grinding faster than most people). You got to find ways, what in the game mechanics allow you to do massive pulls, find the right gear to do so. Granted it's dumb when everyone starts to know the "fast ways" but I enjoy looking for these fast ways. 2-3 months to reach max level seems a bit short to me. Half a year would me satisfying me much more. __________________ Proud Member of BlackTide Lavi ~ Armour Rider RFO Layn ~ Ranger/Spiritualist RFO

11-16-2007, 01:28 PM	#45 (permalink)
Stubbsy Daeva Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Yorkshire, England! Race: Undecided	I dont mind a grind that takes some real skill, which really does seperate the good players from the not so good... Also I dont mind a Semi-Long grind, just stop the game cap being reached within a week, and therefore all PvP being boring since everyone is at the level cap. I like it when people are at different stages. On the other hand I'm not wasting 2 years off my life although which may be fun - could be years of work gone when they decide to turn those servers off. Just remember its not real, and most of the time not worth spending YEARS of time getting some different colour pixels which wont last forever. IMO games are worth playing, but not worth being made life. Grind makes games a life, which is suckage. I'd rather be gettin laid than grinding, put it that way.

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