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Old 01-09-2008, 02:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So now that We know more about this game.... Korean Grind fest?

Just as the title states My primary and most important question is "Is this game a Korean Grind fest?" Now please Don't give me that "What do you define as a Korean Grind fest...Here ill even put a list of games that are Korean grind fest. If Aion is very similar to any of these games please Let me know and help me save money when it comes out.

Sword of the new world
Granado Espada (Same game as Sword)
World of Kungfu
Rapplez
Flyff
2 Moons
Hero online
12 sky
Lost Chaos
Lineage 2

These are a few games that I consider something not worth my time and effort. Very little games have had what it takes for me to actually enjoy their content and those are the games where questing and adventuring is Primary. Killing monsters is Secondary. Those games are

World of warcraft
Lord of the Rings online
Dungeons and Dragons online
Guild wars

Thats it. So Here is the questions I have about Aion...In order from most important to least. I hope to get some good honest responses from the community. I asked some of these questions before I believe it was here or in mmorpg.com but it was so soon that people Did not know enough about the game to tell me. I hope now I can get them responded.

#1 Is it a Korean Grind fest? (Does killing mobs over and over and over in a fast pace yield more than 80% of a players EXP in the total time he or she will play)

#2 Any word on the subscription fee charge?

#3 What are the system requirements?

#4 What kind of game security will they be using to prevent bots and hackers....?

#5 Will we see a US Release before the end of this year?

#6 Is there a strong story feel to the game where players can immerse themselves in the fantasy a la FFXI In game cutcean.

#7 WSDA or point and click.

#8 Bloody cash shop?...oh god plz say no..

Those are my questions about the game Some of them I have asked before and got 1 or 2 not sure responses but most Have not been answered yet.

Thank you for your time and I hope to hear some good replies from you all soon.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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FAQ FTW!

same question, which been asked again, again, again :/
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:45 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes everyone loves the FAQ. From the tone of your post I would say this is not the game for you considering that a fair number of the games you quote as not being worth your time or money are made by NCsoft and there are a number of things that those games have in common. Make your own decision though. Aion is for me though.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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#1 Is it a Korean Grind fest? (Does killing mobs over and over and over in a fast pace yield more than 80% of a players EXP in the total time he or she will play)
As far as I am aware the developers have made this game with pristine and amazing visual effects and a huge amount of content. I emphasize the fact that they really have gone all out for the content as they understand their previous games have lacked in this department.

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#2 Any word on the subscription fee charge?
It will most likely be the same as any other competitive MMORPG which will probably be around $15 or Euro's a month.

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#3 What are the system requirements?
FAQ should answer this I am too lazy to go and find out for you.

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#4 What kind of game security will they be using to prevent bots and hackers....?
I believe they will use nGuard which is a program that runs in the backround while you play the game which in my eyes is meant to stop people using naughty programs.

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#5 Will we see a US Release before the end of this year?
There is no release date, however it is official they are aiming to release Beta in the first half of this year and release in the last half.

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#6 Is there a strong story feel to the game where players can immerse themselves in the fantasy a la FFXI In game cutcean.
I have watched an interview with their lead designer and apparently there are cutscenes in this game which really give people a strong feel for the games lore although these are for the primary quest chains and class change quests I believe. The raid content is unreal apparently.

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#7 WSDA or point and click.
Both are supported although WSDA is the main control for flying I believe.

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#8 Bloody cash shop?...oh god plz say no..
Bloody cash shop? You will need to explain before I can reply to this :P
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Sword of the new world
Granado Espada (Same game as Sword)
World of Kungfu
Rapplez
Flyff
2 Moons
Hero online
12 sky
Lost Chaos
Terrible games, I agree.

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Lineage 2
If not for the pvp, I'd agree with you.

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Very little games have had what it takes for me to actually enjoy their content and those are the games where questing and adventuring is Primary. Killing monsters is Secondary.

World of warcraft
LOL, sure.


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Those are my questions about the game Some of them I have asked before and got 1 or 2 not sure responses but most Have not been answered yet.

Thank you for your time and I hope to hear some good replies from you all soon.
I'm pretty sure most if not all of these have been answered before actually. I guess using the search feature isn't worth your time either huh chief?




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Old 01-09-2008, 03:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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#1 Is it a Korean Grind fest? (Does killing mobs over and over and over in a fast pace yield more than 80% of a players EXP in the total time he or she will play)

There has been stated many times that the leveling curve is somewhere between wow and LineageII, anyways, i'd check this ayase post which is pretty informative:

#2 Any word on the subscription fee charge?

Most likely 15$ month

#3 What are the system requirements?

For korean beta:

Minimum:

* Pentium 4 2.8ghz, AMD Athlon 2800
* 512 mb RAM
* GeForce 5700, Radeon 9600


Recommended:

* Pentium 4 3.0ghz, AMD Athlon 64 3000
* 1 gb RAM
* GeForce 6600, Radeon x1550

#4 What kind of game security will they be using to prevent bots and hackers....?

Unconfirmed about the security system, even tho they want to use something, they intend to discourage it by the game play. Brighton NC team seems to be in charge of RMT.

#5 Will we see a US Release before the end of this year?

Seems so.

#6 Is there a strong story feel to the game where players can immerse themselves in the fantasy a la FFXI In game cutcean.

I'd recommend you to check the official european site of aion or the wiki in here.

#7 WSDA or point and click.

Wasd+space bar for jumping, seems like the screen angle is right click dependant.

#8 Bloody cash shop?...oh god plz say no..

Don't understand this one.
Hope it helped, and yea, most of them have been answered many times.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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#8 Bloody cash shop?...oh god plz say no..
Extremely unlikely. Nothing has ever been mentioned about this for Aion. And it does not fit an mmorpg that already has a montly subscription fee.

As far as I know, only *free* mmorpgs try to get their needed cash by giving players the option to buy items or credits.
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh, he meant like the f2p games system to buy stuff igame with ingame currency? well, ebay covers everything, but the game itself won't be supporting this practice.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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why is running from NPC to NPC considered so much better than the good old grind ???

and if rewards are same for questing and grind i always take the grind...

or we need to save the kingdom go kill 20 spiders...
the kingdom isnt save yet go kill 20 frogs too...
good work now go to the king and report...
well done hero but to get ur final reward u must bring this love letter to my beloved who lives at the other end of the world...
and so on and so on....

just show me where the monsters are and let me kill stuff.... tired of beeing FedEx for every single NPC...
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
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why is running from NPC to NPC considered so much better than the good old grind ???

and if rewards are same for questing and grind i always take the grind...

or we need to save the kingdom go kill 20 spiders...
the kingdom isnt save yet go kill 20 frogs too...
good work now go to the king and report...
well done hero but to get ur final reward u must bring this love letter to my beloved who lives at the other end of the world...
and so on and so on....

just show me where the monsters are and let me kill stuff.... tired of beeing FedEx for every single NPC...
Questing is just casual friendly, people are able to achieve their stuff without relying on a group, and casual people have troubles finding groups since they can't spend 45 minutes looking for a party if they play 2 hours a day.

The key for a wider market is in giving choices, and people sometimes want inmersion on their chars, L2 quests were dull and most of them were about hunting 50 wolfs and bringing the wolf skins to a npc to get the reward, a reward that most of the time wasnt worth the effort, you can't really generalize questing as that, since many games got them straight, with entertaining quests that were good for a change and which rewards were worthy enough to be considered if you can't get something better (group xp, for example)
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:29 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Some people like to experience the role playing side of questing and like to chill out and follow a route layed out for them while others prefer to suck it up and grind in order to achieve their goals quicker.

Either way, in todays world everyone is screaming out for CONTROL and CHOICE over what they want, so having alot of quests with good rewards is the most sensible answer because that way everyone wins, if you want to grind - go ahead and if not then you have your quests.

Off-Topic: Fleiva, does your guild have a website or anything? Cant seem to find it in the Guild section.

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Old 01-09-2008, 08:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It's still difficult to determine whether the way leveling works during Closed Beta will remain the same upon full release. Remember that all Abyss functions haven't been presented yet, and as stated in articles previously, the Abyss is one of the major sectors of Aion gameplay.

Choice has still been something Studio 5 is trying to keep to, so perhaps it will be a grind fest if you want it to be.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:01 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So now that We know more about this game...
... You should be able to answer that question. It was one of the first questions addressed by the AION-Team.

Want the answer? Try the AionSource Wiki, which you can link through my signature. Oh, and you could have also used the Search feature. Just put the keyword "grind" and it might surprise you.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Quest/grind balance

LoTR as you mentioned seemed to me to be a purely quest driven game. If I don't feel like doing a quest then I can't really continue in the game. Quests are ok...but if you've ever played L2 and done 2nd/3rd class changes then you may understand why not everyone is excited about questing. Aion is a multi-player online game. Thus for me, it's much more fun to be "grinding" with a nice party of cool people then to spend my time talking to some idiot npc who's just going to have me port around the map for his amusement.

And what fun is playing for a