Old 01-19-2008, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just an idea....Since obviously the Elyos and Asmodeans are at war, they should be able to attack each other on sight without consequence, but not being able to fight your own side can and WILL cause problems in the game at certain events, quests, levelling spots, raid bosses, castles, etc...

Would it be a bad idea to have a system like L2 for your own race...Example if you hit someone you flag, if they flag back you can fight, if they dont flag back and you kill them, you go red, and if you are red you cant enter towns/talk to NPCs and there are severe death penalties (dropping gear).

Just a thought, I'm pretty sure most people are going to say its stupid/why would you attack your own race.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This game is meant to be more casual than L2. Therefore implementing it's pvp system would be very un-casual as it is now you can duel your own race.. I agree tho it causes problems since other elyos clans can't lay siege to a castle owned by another elyos clan. But think of it then as all elyos clans are a huge alliance vs the other alliance.. all asmodian clans.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If their was a server that had that option i would definately play on it. Doubt it will happen though.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just an idea....Since obviously the Elyos and Asmodeans are at war, they should be able to attack each other on sight without consequence, but not being able to fight your own side can and WILL cause problems in the game at certain events, quests, levelling spots, raid bosses, castles, etc...

Would it be a bad idea to have a system like L2 for your own race...Example if you hit someone you flag, if they flag back you can fight, if they dont flag back and you kill them, you go red, and if you are red you cant enter towns/talk to NPCs and there are severe death penalties (dropping gear).

Just a thought, I'm pretty sure most people are going to say its stupid/why would you attack your own race.
You'll get L3 for that. It's also stated that there will definetly no similar pvp system like Lineage 2.
I agree that FFA PvP is more exciting, but I like the RvR PvP more
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Calindor, nice sig. what game is that? (sorry for being off-topic)
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just an idea....Since obviously the Elyos and Asmodeans are at war, they should be able to attack each other on sight without consequence, but not being able to fight your own side can and WILL cause problems in the game at certain events, quests, levelling spots, raid bosses, castles, etc...

Would it be a bad idea to have a system like L2 for your own race...Example if you hit someone you flag, if they flag back you can fight, if they dont flag back and you kill them, you go red, and if you are red you cant enter towns/talk to NPCs and there are severe death penalties (dropping gear).

Just a thought, I'm pretty sure most people are going to say its stupid/why would you attack your own race.
Dont fret, you can always challenge that guy thats really ****ing you off and constantly killstealing your mobs to A DUEL lololol, yes duels are very good.
Im sure he will of learnt not to mess with you after he has lost in a duel.
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This game is meant to be more casual than L2. Therefore implementing it's pvp system would be very un-casual as it is now you can duel your own race.. I agree tho it causes problems since other elyos clans can't lay siege to a castle owned by another elyos clan. But think of it then as all elyos clans are a huge alliance vs the other alliance.. all asmodian clans.
Tofu, what you said is still very debatable and has caused a lot of controversy. Although I appreciate your input, there have been a lot of threads regarding this. Use the Search function to see what others think about this topic.
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Old 01-19-2008, 02:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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my sig is from l2 for the 100th time lol.

Dueling proves nothing, especially if the person doesnt actually die (which they should...maybe not with a penalty).

And its not as smple as someone ****ing you off...What if you organize a clan raid party, and have 26 clan members all login to kill some epic raid boss that you've been planning/schedualing to kill, and another clan, or group of randoms from your faction shows up, how do you share? What if your clan did most of the work for a castle siege, but some clan of like 5 people ends up taking control of it? You need some balance inside your own race.
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I was actually being sarcastic... but ok.
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Tofu, what you said is still very debatable and has caused a lot of controversy. Although I appreciate your input, there have been a lot of threads regarding this. Use the Search function to see what others think about this topic.
I'm sure it has I am just a lazy person though I don't like going through pages of threads
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The issue here is that you're looking at a game with the L2's perspective, you think that a RvR only pvp is impossible cause L2 gameplay couldn't handle such system.

Inner conflicts within the races will end up being a very important point in Aion, if a clan is p1ssing their race clans, they will have a hard time fighting the opposite faction. You can have a castle, but if your allies don't want to help you, you won't hold it for long, so ****ing your friends will never be a good strategy, cause, where the other faction may have unity, you'll have a useless individuality that will drive nowhere good.
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It's still worth the time. With comments from people with backgrounds from many different games (predominantly WoW, L2, and GW), it's interesting to read what they have to say about it.
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Old 01-19-2008, 04:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's still worth the time. With comments from people with backgrounds from many different games (predominantly WoW, L2, and GW), it's interesting to read what they have to say about it.
I might get to it, lots of time to kill before Aion's release.
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my sig is from l2 for the 100th time lol.

Dueling proves nothing, especially if the person doesnt actually die (which they should...maybe not with a penalty).

And its not as smple as someone ****ing you off...What if you organize a clan raid party, and have 26 clan members all login to kill some epic raid boss that you've been planning/schedualing to kill, and another clan, or group of randoms from your faction shows up, how do you share? What if your clan did most of the work for a castle siege, but some clan of like 5 people ends up taking control of it? You need some balance inside your own race.
Ya then you get the big clans keeping the small clans just bearly big enough to do raids by themselves from doing them because you kill them off to take the boss we started, been to L2 and I don't wanna play it again. Eternal Alliance on Gustin server was such bull**** I can't stand to try that again.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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normal raid bosses can only be done with 6 people, so that problem won't occur, and if 2 clans show up with a 6 person party for a rb, why should 1 get it over the other? they should fight for it, or if the drops are damage based, the "stronger" clan will win



also inner conflict is going to be in the game, but i think its rediculous for example a clan to ninja a siege when some strong clans are putting a lot of work into it, or that some randoms can kill an rb that you organized a party for without some style of competition. And i dont want: turn fraps on, /duel, post on forums to be the only solution to problems.
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