Aion on Consoles

[birdman]

Originally Posted by Mark

Why not just play it on a computer, then? :l

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

In fact, it would probably be the economical solution for players to buy it for PS3, since you get all that power for less than the cost of a PC.

There's really no valid argument against it. The fact that you can add a keyboard and mouse creates the same experience as playing it on a pc would. Actually, if that were to happen, I'd probably get it for the ps3 simply because I'd rather play on my couch in front of a huge tv than on my computer chair in front of a 17" monitor.

It's not like people are trying to get it on the Wii or anything, there would have to be virtually no changes to the game to accommodate the console players. Now if they wanted to change it to ps3 controller, that's when I'd have an issue with it.

[Kolossus]

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

FFXI was originally for PS2.

It was actually designed equally and simultaneously for PC and PS2. That was one of it's huge features, being the first cross platform game ever. It received a simultaneous release in Japan for it's PS2/PC product. Then it came to NA as a PC version, and the PS2 version followed suit about 5-6 months later.

[Fiend]

Originally Posted by Icarus01

that and my tv is 5 times as big as my computer screen.

This is exactly why I bought the first Samsung TV that came out with 1920x1080 and a PC input. Bought it and a 7800 GTX at the same time specifically so that I could use it as my computer monitor. After a couple years playing on a 61" screen, I don't know if I could handle dropping down to a computer monitor.

Even now I'm just sitting on my couch with a wireless mouse and keyboard. Mmmm, it reclines.

[[PhiberOpticks]]

Originally Posted by Kolossus

It was actually designed equally and simultaneously for PC and PS2. That was one of it's huge features, being the first cross platform game ever. It received a simultaneous release in Japan for it's PS2/PC product. Then it came to NA as a PC version, and the PS2 version followed suit about 5-6 months later.

I followed it two years before release. I know they originally planned it for the PS2, but expanded it to include PC very early on. Early enough for very few to remember.

The idea of Aion being on the Wii is laughable. Even SSBB needed to be on a double-layer CD in order to run. And there isn't even an HDD.

[Mark]

But a PS3 can't play all the other games that come out for the PC. :l

Whatever guys, enjoy your un-upgradeable gadget.

[birdman]

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

The idea of Aion being on the Wii is laughable. Even SSBB needed to be on a double-layer CD in order to run. And there isn't even an HDD.

I know, that's what I said. But people are using this same idea for Aion on the ps3 which is ridiculous since you can get the same thing as if you played Aion on the pc.

Originally Posted by Mark

But a PS3 can't play all the other games that come out for the PC. :l

Whatever guys, enjoy your un-upgradeable gadget.

Lol what does that have to do with Aion being on the ps3? If you or someone could come up with a valid argument, I know I haven't, say it. No one is arguing which platform is better, but at this point in time, both platforms can run the game.

Regardless, like Ayase said, there are no plans for this in the future.

[[PhiberOpticks]]

I know, that's what I said. But people are using this same idea for Aion on the ps3 which is ridiculous since you can get the same thing as if you played Aion on the pc.

If not more since PS3 uses standard Blu-ray. It would be nice to see an incentive for this kind of thing, since NCSoft has this deal with Sony. It would poke the fires of the multi-platform MMO market. Hell, I'd buy it for console on top of buying it for PC, just so I can use my account at my house or at my girlfriend's.

[Cynthe]

Originally Posted by birdman

Lol what does that have to do with Aion being on the ps3? If you or someone could come up with a valid argument, I know I haven't, say it. No one is arguing which platform is better, but at this point in time, both platforms can run the game.

Regardless, like Ayase said, there are no plans for this in the future.

Excellent point, I'm starting to wonder if people dislike options. And Yaku? Why would you want people on consoles on different servers? Would it ruin your game play and why? If it's for the kiddie factor you get plenty of those on the PC too..

[Ipmia]

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

FFXI was originally for PS2.

But anyways, I think it's just another opportunity for NCSoft to make use of that deal they've got with Sony.

Besides, just because it was originally developed for a PC doesn't exclude it from being viable on a console. In fact, it would probably be the economical solution for players to buy it for PS3, since you get all that power for less than the cost of a PC. All you need to buy is a USB keyboard and mouse. Or even Bluetooth, since the console supports it. I'm all for it. I'm still getting it for PC, but I think it's a great idea from a marketing perspective.

And that doesn't mean they have to play on separate servers either. Since they would have the same means to play the game, there is no advantage for one over the other.

that is not realistic. You dont design a game that is only gona work with accessories that just not a viable option.
Even if somehow they decided to do so. that would be paying a lot for a single game ( mousse, keyboard, game, monthly fee).. comon get real

the "just buy a keyboard/mouse " argument is just wrong.... a game like a mmorpg need to be planned to play on console first for that.. and then add the keyboard/mouse support for more convenience of the player "IF" he wish too.

now that is realistic

[[PhiberOpticks]]

that is not realistic. You dont design a game that is only gona work with accessories that just not a viable option.
Even if somehow they decided to do so. that would be paying a lot for a single game ( mousse, keyboard, game, monthly fee).. comon get real

the "just buy a keyboard/mouse " argument is just wrong.... a game like a mmorpg need to be planned to play on console first for that.. and then add the keyboard/mouse support for more convenience of the player "IF" he wish too.

now that is realistic

But you're just being cheap. If people are willing to dole out for a monthly fee, then why wouldn't they be willing to spare some money for a keyboard and mouse? And the average person already has them in their house. And typically they're USB. I don't see why it's so unrealistic when you're just arguing from the perspective of a penny pincher who, given their penny-pinching nature, probably wouldn't P2P anyways.

[Otium]

Originally Posted by Cynthe

Excellent point, I'm starting to wonder if people dislike options. And Yaku? Why would you want people on consoles on different servers? Would it ruin your game play and why? If it's for the kiddie factor you get plenty of those on the PC too..

There are way more kids with a console than with a PC.

[[PhiberOpticks]]

You get kids either way. And the claim that there are more on consoles is rather insubstantial. With communities like these, it helps you to travel in circles with more mature players. I really get tired of this "too many children" argument. It's overplayed and not really a big deal.

[Zyuu]

There's many reasons why this is not viable. To design an MMO to work well on a Console and a PC require a lot of things to get mainstreamed. Such as the User Interface. Things will get less then appealing for the majority that are used to MMO's on the PC. Final Fantasy XI is a great example of this, the UI of that game leave a lot to be desired.

Another great point mentioned is that you rarely design an MMO around accessories. To be able to play an MMO efficient (at least the way Aion is intended to be played) you'd need a mouse and a keyboard.

Anyway, back to what I initially mentioned. Mainstreaming a title due to console support - it would take away or change some of the aspects that really make MMO's unique and fun. Especially Aion. It'd be a bit harder to use the current UI and custom settings in a console due to the limitations a console has. Set hardware, etc. We all know if we think hard enough that it's just extra work that wouldn't really benefit NCSoft that much, since MMO's are mainly played on the PC and the MAC anyway.

Now, having options is great! I agree. Sadly, this isn't an option I see ever occurring due to how consoles require all that extra revamping and mainstreaming. Removing options is no fun. Also due to the multi-platform support, the release of content/patches/expansions will get delayed if you run into unexpected problems; which is more likely as more platforms you support.

I suppose sometimes people are too lazy to really speak their mind and/or have a hard time to put it into words. I always fear the results of an MMO if it's coming out to consoles and the PC. AoC is one example, I don't like the sacrifices (on many levels, development-wise too) they had to make.

Some drawbacks are that the closed platform makes it more difficult for developers to collect fees from players. Something that is even more prominent on the Xbox 360. Another additional fee to the already existing Xbox Live charges seems very unreasonable and also unexplainable to the masses.

Another thing is storage. Expansions and patches for MMO's are many. Actually scrap that, they are numerous. Limited harddrive space is something that could become an issue rapidly. Not to mention frapsing and making videos and such will be much tougher if you don't own a PC and play it via that system. Sharing is caring.

Either way, debating the pros and cons can be done endlessly. In the end, it's very hard to anticipate what the future has in store for this niche market. Many enjoy to grind from the comfort of their living room. To be able to give the end user the option to play on their platform of choice would be ideal and in the end most likely expand the player base of MMO's in general. Right now I'm not sure how feasible it is, though.

[Endrance]

I want MMORPGs to come to consoles and have a combo system similar to a dancing game. ^-^
That way, grinds would make ppl get muscles and stuff. D:

No, seriously. If Aion came out for PS3, screw the PC version.