Aion on Consoles

[camaxtli]

Sorry not meaning to dis consoles at all....the simple fact is that a computer is much more than a console can hope at the moment. I can do multiple tasks while playing any game I choose and can run several instances of the same game if I wish. Consoles have great potential but at the moment the peripherals are limited unless you hack said console and then you might as well have bought a computer. another thing that a computer can do that the consoles out on the market can't is upgrade. instead every couple of years you have to fork out more dough. To me a console(unless there are specific games you want to play) just don't make sense. They are costly unupgradable and limited in the number of games they can play, whereas a computer is upgradeable and with the right program and hardware are capable of playing any game on the market.

that being said I think the next generation of consoles will no doubt change much of what I feel is wrong with them. Even sony has started the upgradable trend with upgradable hard drives. Soon I see the consoles catching up and being even more viable than computers because the poster that said they are optimized is correct. They are designed with games in mind and that's it.

As a side note if you are a decent modder then the potential these systems have is enormous, however the average gamer doesn't have the ambition to do what a very small minority have. The person that installed linux on his PS3 good luck on getting Aion to run and I hope to see you in game. You are the type of individual I like to see playing(innovative knowledgeable and intelligent), and as another poster said wine is your best bet unless you want to pay cedega when they figure out to optimize for Aion.

[Midgarsormr]

Originally Posted by camaxtli

Sorry not meaning to dis consoles at all....the simple fact is that a computer is much more than a console can hope at the moment. I can do multiple tasks while playing any game I choose and can run several instances of the same game if I wish. Consoles have great potential but at the moment the peripherals are limited unless you hack said console and then you might as well have bought a computer. another thing that a computer can do that the consoles out on the market can't is upgrade. instead every couple of years you have to fork out more dough. To me a console(unless there are specific games you want to play) just don't make sense. They are costly unupgradable and limited in the number of games they can play, whereas a computer is upgradeable and with the right program and hardware are capable of playing any game on the market.

that being said I think the next generation of consoles will no doubt change much of what I feel is wrong with them. Even sony has started the upgradable trend with upgradable hard drives. Soon I see the consoles catching up and being even more viable than computers because the poster that said they are optimized is correct. They are designed with games in mind and that's it.

As a side note if you are a decent modder then the potential these systems have is enormous, however the average gamer doesn't have the ambition to do what a very small minority have. The person that installed linux on his PS3 good luck on getting Aion to run and I hope to see you in game. You are the type of individual I like to see playing(innovative knowledgeable and intelligent), and as another poster said wine is your best bet unless you want to pay cedega when they figure out to optimize for Aion.

There ya' go. You said it yourself. Not soon. Now. Consoles are strictly optimized for gaming, and PC's are heavy, hulky, pricy things that are built for more than gaming. They used to be the proper platform, but they can't be anymore, without becoming more and more untouchably expensive. I mean it's so obvious. Consoles are built ground up to run nothing but video games, that is why they will be superior for... video games. And the PS3 is a very powerful, untapped piece of machinery, on which Aion could definitely run perfectly. That's why it's often referred to as a "super computer". I don't think it could be run on the 360 though.

[[PhiberOpticks]]

Sorry not meaning to dis consoles at all....the simple fact is that a computer is much more than a console can hope at the moment. I can do multiple tasks while playing any game I choose and can run several instances of the same game if I wish. Consoles have great potential but at the moment the peripherals are limited unless you hack said console and then you might as well have bought a computer. another thing that a computer can do that the consoles out on the market can't is upgrade. instead every couple of years you have to fork out more dough. To me a console(unless there are specific games you want to play) just don't make sense. They are costly unupgradable and limited in the number of games they can play, whereas a computer is upgradeable and with the right program and hardware are capable of playing any game on the market.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 is much more powerful than the average PC. You really need to read what has been said. I've already countered this claim like 3 times. Peripherals are not limited. They both have USB2.0 ports, for keyboards and mice. The PS3 has bluetooth, so if you want to be that classy guy sporting the Logitech diNovo or something then you are free to do it. Absolutely no modding necessary.

If the PS3 wasn't more powerful than the average PC, then why would the U.S. Army have bought 600 PS3s to run grueling processes? Why would programs such as Folding@Home, which has said that the PS3, on top of having a larger base to appeal to, is much more capable of processing protein folding information. People are setting up servers and doing some hardcore stuff with the PS3. Don't doubt the might of the PS3 in this generation.

You can port videos, music, and pictures to both of these consoles. The PS3 even has an internet browser. For the average consumer, gaming is strictly for consoles, since a decent gaming PC is costly. So your argument that a console is more costly than a PC is complete bullcrap. You would have to pay a MINIMUM of $1000 for a computer that can run Aion effectively. What does the 360 cost? You can buy it on Amazon for $220. The PS3 is $400, although it is more powerful than the 360, has built-in wifi, bluetooth, internet browser, etc.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Aion is not as demanding of a game as everyone makes it out to be. Although it will require more than WoW, it is not the next Crysis. It's not even as graphically comprehensive as FFXII. The current gen consoles, with the exception of the Wii, are more than a match for Aion.

FFXI was very comprehensive and was able to run on the PS3 at low to medium settings. Given the HUGE performance gap between the PS2 and the next gen, Aion, which is an improvement, but not incredibly, can run on the current gen consoles. The PS2 was the WEAKEST of the old gen consoles and was able to run an MMO. Don't question the performance of the consoles. You'd be sorely mistaken to say that.

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[birdman]

Nah phiber, Aion shouldn't go to the PS3 EVER CUZ YU CANT RUN MICROSOFT WORD, WINAMP, AND MSN AT THE SAME TIME!

[Mark]

Birdman for the lulz.

And I think he Xbox 360 could play Aion just as well, if not better than the PS3.

[Icarus01]

Originally Posted by Mark

Birdman for the lulz.

And I think he x box 360 could play Aion just as well, if not better than the PS3.

apart from the space issue because my xbox 360 only has 8.3 gigs of room left on its measly little hard drive but if they find a way i will defiantly play cos then i can replace the in game lah de dah instrumentals with some parkway drive, mindless self indulgence and some Nine Inch Nails!!

but then again the ps3 and the Xbox both read off my computer and can play the music then the only problem would be Msn and X box does that but its **** and considering my computer's and xbox and Ps3 arent even a foot away from each other i wont have a problem leaving it running on my pc like i normally have it

btw Xbox for the record is better than Ps3

[Midgarsormr]

Okay, YOU WANNA TUSSLE? I CHALLENGE YOU TO FISTICUFFS.

Although I don't have a PS3, I acknowledge it as the future dominator of this "console war".

[Icarus01]

apart from blue ray what have you got going for you?

what major titles that evry one is druling over apart from final fantasy are exclusive on the PS3?

the controllers may have 6 axis but it leaves them light in your hands and easily broken (my cousin is seriously disgustingly stupid he isnt a retard just really annoying fat and stupid when he didn't want to play NFS (lame car game btw) he just stood up and dropped the ps3 controller and it broke just like that from a 1m fall.)

you cant play backward console games from the PsX or Ps2 unless you buy the overly expensive version of the ps3.

online play is something left to be desired in the few games i have NSF pro street, Resistance Fall of man (this was a nice game but the graphics were like a downgrade of half life no thanks you could have done something more with your 54 gigs of space) the online play was often laggy (i had a good enough internet speed that my xbox doesn't lagg 1 bit but the ps3 did.) and had long cues because not as many people would fork out the cash for the console.

the only thing that i think the Ps3 excels in is that it has a large hard drive that you can replace with any other normal hard drive BUT the xbox has a special type of had drive which is removed and taken with you easily to a friends house so you suddenly show them your customised xbox skins and play achievements if you didn't already see them online and compare games.

you may bring up the issue that you have to pay for online xbox play (a gold member ship) it costs $87 for a whole year, if you compare that to most P2P MMO's that have an average of $15 American a month to have that subscription for a whole year is $180 so obviously $87 isn't that much to any 1 who plays an MMO even if parents are paying for it.

any thing you want to add? (btw having a black shiny case isn't something to add)

[[PhiberOpticks]]

Originally Posted by birdman

Nah phiber, Aion shouldn't go to the PS3 EVER CUZ YU CANT RUN MICROSOFT WORD, WINAMP, AND MSN AT THE SAME TIME!

Go ahead, it just means that if I played you on a PS3, I would whoop your multi-tasking @$$ XD

Originally Posted by Icarus01

apart from blue ray what have you got going for you?

Bluetooth, free internet, built-in wifi, and you can run mods on it ta-boot and Sony doesn't even get all that mad.

If you wanted a wireless network adaptor for the 360, that would run you $100, which only makes it about $50 cheaper than the PS3.

what major titles that evry one is druling over apart from final fantasy are exclusive on the PS3?

LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, Haze, Resistance 2, etc.

the controllers may have 6 axis but it leaves them light in your hands and easily broken (my cousin is seriously disgustingly stupid he isnt a retard just really annoying fat and stupid when he didn't want to play NFS (lame car game btw) he just stood up and dropped the ps3 controller and it broke just like that from a 1m fall.)

The Dual Shock 3 was released buddy. Has more weight to it, which would more-than-likely make it more durable.

online play is something left to be desired in the few games i have NSF pro street, Resistance Fall of man (this was a nice game but the graphics were like a downgrade of half life no thanks you could have done something more with your 54 gigs of space) the online play was often laggy (i had a good enough internet speed that my xbox doesn't lagg 1 bit but the ps3 did.) and had long cues because not as many people would fork out the cash for the console.

That's definitely changed in the past half-year, since the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 month after month.

the only thing that i think the Ps3 excels in is that it has a large hard drive that you can replace with any other normal hard drive BUT the xbox has a special type of had drive which is removed and taken with you easily to a friends house so you suddenly show them your customised xbox skins and play achievements if you didn't already see them online and compare games.

Right...as if there's some magical force that keeps your HDD bound to your PS3 and nobody else's. I call BS on that, cuz that's hardly a legitimate reason. Besides, the 360 HDD has that giant plug that could suffer some wear and tear from traveling in a backpack. Also, the PS3 will be getting its own version of achievements, even though they are hardly an advantage since they count for absolutely nothing.

you may bring up the issue that you have to pay for online xbox play (a gold member ship) it costs $87 for a whole year, if you compare that to most P2P MMO's that have an average of $15 American a month to have that subscription for a whole year is $180 so obviously $87 isn't that much to any 1 who plays an MMO even if parents are paying for it.

You wouldn't even need a gold membership to play. FFXI only requires a silver membership. So you're not losing out by playing an MMO on the 360.

[Icarus01]

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

Bluetooth, free internet, built-in wifi, and you can run mods on it ta-boot and Sony doesn't even get all that mad.

blue tooth is meh and xbox has wi-fi. mods hmm ill have to check that out one day

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

If you wanted a wireless network adaptor for the 360, that would run you $100, which only makes it about $50 cheaper than the PS3.

don't need one because its only 3 feet away so a little cable is obviously cheaper and i trust it more than wireless

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, Haze, Resistance 2, etc.

metal gear i prefer it in 2d, ratchet and clank is a kiddy game, heavenly sword is lame i completed it go play god of war its where they took every 1 of their ideas apart from a crazy ****roach eating girl with a bow, kill zone is meh all the fps i need is bf2 and source resistance 2 unless they update their graphics ide rather play halflife

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

The Dual Shock 3 was released buddy. Has more weight to it, which would more-than-likely make it more durable.

yeah also more expensive (i live in Australia dw ill hear about it next year still waiting on rockband FFS) why cant they just make a nice robust controller with a little weight to it to make customers comfortable instead of making us pay for an extra special different controller

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

That's definitely changed in the past half-year, since the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 month after month.

yeah every 1 who really wanted an Xbox 360 already has one they were cheaper so the people who have been saving all year for their ps3's can finally buy one lols

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

Right...as if there's some magical force that keeps your HDD bound to your PS3 and nobody else's.

i never said that, i mention it because xbox has a quick release im not sure about the ps3 but i doubt its as quick as the xbox 1

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

I call BS on that, cuz that's hardly a legitimate reason. Besides, the 360 HDD has that giant plug that could suffer some wear and tear from traveling in a backpack. Also, the PS3 will be getting its own version of achievements, even though they are hardly an advantage since they count for absolutely nothing.

everything recieves wear and tear if your not careful, and achievements are for EEPEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

You wouldn't even need a gold membership to play. FFXI only requires a silver membership. So you're not losing out by playing an MMO on the 360.

i was talking about the next in line Final fantasy which will only be on the PS3

[[PhiberOpticks]]

blue tooth is meh and xbox has wi-fi mods hmm ill have to check that out one day

So...you don't like Bluetooth, so now it's not a viable point? Ouch, my argument just took a dent XD

I would be curious to see where this mod is. But regardless, the majority of consumers will not buy a 360 with the anticipation that they can mod it.

what major titles that evry one is druling over apart from final fantasy are exclusive on the PS3?

metal gear i prefer it in 2d, ratchet and clank is a kiddy game, heavenly sword is lame i completed it go play god of war its where they took every 1 of their ideas apart from a crazy ****roach eating girl with a bow, kill zone is meh all the fps i need is bf2 and source resistance 2 unless they update their graphics ide rather play halflife

Too bad you didn't ask me what good games I think you would like. Everyone else sees all these titles as great hits. I loved the released ones I mentioned and and anticipating the ones that have yet to be released.

yeah also more expensive (i live in Australia dw ill hear about it next year still waiting on rockband FFS) why cant they just make a nice robust controller with a little weight to it to make customers comfortable instead of making us pay for an extra special different controller

Because they were in a lawsuit with Immersion at the time of PS3 development. Immersion is the company that made the technology for Dual Shock.

i never said that, i mention it because xbox has a quick release im not sure about the ps3 but i doubt its as quick as the xbox 1

Of course you didn't. This isn't the ****ing teletubbies XD The "quick-release" of an HDD isn't a decent sales point. It's more of a gimmick than anything else. Besides, how many people really bring their HDDs over to their friends houses? Not I, said the cat.

everything recieves wear and tear if your not careful, and achievements are for EEPEEEEEEEN!!!!!

But it's more likely to get pins bent at that rate. And lol @ peen.

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i was talking about the next in line Final fantasy which will only be on the PS3

And I was talking about the precedent that Microsoft set for MMOs on the 360. I'm throwing you a bone, here. There's no financial disadvantage to online play for MMOs on either console, disregarding initial console cost.

You seem to revert to opinions in the absence of facts to support your argument. Sometimes. You're doing it twice too many for me, though.

[Verth]

Originally Posted by [PhiberOpticks]

So your argument that a console is more costly than a PC is complete bullcrap. You would have to pay a MINIMUM of $1000 for a computer that can run Aion effectively. What does the 360 cost? You can buy it on Amazon for $220. The PS3 is $400, although it is more powerful than the 360, has built-in wifi, bluetooth, internet browser, etc.

I think someone needs to look for deals for PC's I got my computer for $500, sure it had Intel Duo Core 3ghz processor (I'm a bigger fan of AMD) but had 2gig RAM and a Nivida 7300GT and about the only major addition I had to make to it was a memory fan (OH NO!! $20!) so I spent less on my PC than I would have a PS3 where I am at, and my computer has shorter loading time than a PS3 and runs better than a PS3 and is more reliable than a PS3 (going on 2 years and no major problems to date). My friends PS3 is about