Aion UI Poll

[ImALittleMonKeY]

Sad to see the poll results show abunch of noob WoWheads want to play aion and need to have addons to make it so they can push one button the whole time to make everything happen. haha i loved it in wow when sometimes after patches mods wouldnt work and guilds had to cancel raids cause so many noobs couldnt play without their addons. Ugg sry wow is just so easy and carebear I just hate to see new MMOs trying to do the same and scared to go back to old school with some actual challenge in the game.
Initiating flame sequence. Flame on!!

[Ayase]

Originally Posted by Heinel

Actually it's not slight at all. It allowed you to completely dodge the issue presented in that whole paragraph.

I'm sorry if you took it as a 'dodge'. It was certainly not intended as one.

I have absolutely nothing but good things to say about the Customer Support-people here, and I'm very confident that they'll provide great support for our Aion players once that time comes.

[Otium]

Originally Posted by Ayase

I'm sorry if you took it as a 'dodge'. It was certainly not intended as one.

I have absolutely nothing but good things to say about the Customer Support-people here, and I'm very confident that they'll provide great support for our Aion players once that time comes.

Is that team the same that led the L2 community?

[Cylph]

Originally Posted by ImALittleMonKeY

Sad to see the poll results show abunch of noob WoWheads want to play aion and need to have addons to make it so they can push one button the whole time to make everything happen. haha i loved it in wow when sometimes after patches mods wouldnt work and guilds had to cancel raids cause so many noobs couldnt play without their addons. Ugg sry wow is just so easy and carebear I just hate to see new MMOs trying to do the same and scared to go back to old school with some actual challenge in the game.
Initiating flame sequence. Flame on!!

.... Huge cliche, good job

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Otium

Is that team the same that led the L2 community?

They could hire me to GM and then you wouldn't have to worry.

[Verth]

Originally Posted by ImALittleMonKeY

Sad to see the poll results show abunch of noob WoWheads want to play aion and need to have addons to make it so they can push one button the whole time to make everything happen. haha i loved it in wow when sometimes after patches mods wouldnt work and guilds had to cancel raids cause so many noobs couldnt play without their addons. Ugg sry wow is just so easy and carebear I just hate to see new MMOs trying to do the same and scared to go back to old school with some actual challenge in the game.
Initiating flame sequence. Flame on!!

To each their own I say, I personally liked WoW mods, gave me something to work on in my down time and I was able to get my UI to look the way I wanted it, I never had mods that allowed me to do everything with one button (if you can show me a mod that can do that I'll be freaking amazed). WoW mods allowed people to create their own little programs and it was neat to see what people can do with scripting, I learned a lot about scripting in general because of that game (I'm studying web design in my spare time, which is hardly at all these days because of my massive work load at my job).

Either way, I'm going to play Aion because the game looks awesome, the graphics are just beautiful and the overall game play just seems to be what I would like in a MMO, the UI is a minor detail that I could live with what ever they gave me, it wouldn't be the end all for me.

[Mark]

Originally Posted by Verth

Either way, I'm going to play Aion because the game looks awesome, the graphics are just beautiful and the overall game play just seems to be what I would like in a MMO, the UI is a minor detail that I could live with what ever they gave me, it wouldn't be the end all for me.

If I HAD played WoW before discovering AION, this is probably exactly how I'd feel. Everything else is so great, a missing feature or two is forgivable.

[Skold]

Having the customizable UI is nice, but as it is now AION has a very nice looking UI to begin with. The problem with releasing full customization is language barriers between English and NCSoft... It could take a while to block an addon, that is my only worry.

[BahamutKaiser]

I had to ROFL when Aylas mentioned Tabula Rasa, CoH was alright, though I haven't looked into it much, but TR is a halmark for releasing an unfinished game. And in my experience, Customer Support has little if nothing to do with the quality of the game, they could field every question and ensure the developers knew everything players had a problem with, but outside of small bugs, if the developers were paying attention to their game and knew how to make it better, they wouldn't be waiting for players to tell them somethings wrong. Usually even if they do have to wait for players to tell them something is wrong, either they know it and are avoiding action, or they don't and can't come up with a good solution to begin with, which is why there is something wrong.

As far as I know, Arena.net has no hand in NCsoft, it is just a development company published by NCsoft, I personally don't have any record with NCsoft outside of the media, but even their own advertisements for TR presume that they are not doing well in subscriptions, it is still a great game from what I've learned, just not a finished one.

As I was mentioning before though, how few MMOs actually have a solid release? WoW servers crashed, many big time innovators tanked after major release problems, FFXI didn't even get a balanced version of their professions working til 3 or 4 years after it's release, not to mention many bad adjustments to the gameplay, GW is in in never ending state of alteration, but what's really bad is that it never ceases to get worse, not better, and what else is out there?

I'm not worried about a silly features, or even a solid release, I'm concerned about the gameplay value behind the game which has the opportunity to provide the action packed gameplay they are claiming, and I'm concerned about how effectively their development team will pursue innovation and advancements in gameplay, during development and after release. I hope to god I don't have to play crappy and boring classes because a bunch of idiots can't play a tactically diverse and action packed game, all I have to say to that is.

[Heinel]

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

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Haha. I like that graphic. So true.

[Verth]

That's the greatest pic... ever...

[ei8th]

I generally don't trust anyones comments regarding a companies performance unless they a) worked there themselves (and then they wouldn't talk about it here) or b) I'd work there myself and could confirm the allegations.

Apart from that, many people forget that there's a vast difference between Developer and Publsiher and also between the different NCsoft companies. L2 is completely run by NCsoft US, while GW and CoH for example have dedicated community support from Europe (which I guess is mainly due to the fact that L2 was launched before the EU division existed).

Beyond all that (and that goes to anyone complaining about WoW's customer support, especially after launch) you have to keep in mind how many people and resources are required to support a MMO. Any MMO. Then think how much mor eeffort it takes to support a game with 2 million active subscribers.

On the other hand I've seen some legit players getting banned for no reason lol When they sent mails about it they wouldn't get answered, just an automated reply. So no, you can't trust NCSoft.

Lol. I can only laugh about comments like that. Apart from the fact that it's not you but "some legit player" whom you most likely don't even know, these comments come up in any forum. Oh boy and how the people complain. I have been banned unjustified, I didn't do nothing! Support doesn't respond to me! Crycry.

I've played my fair share of MMOs and I've got many freinds I know irl who themselves have played their fair share. And I know no person that has ever been banned unustified.

But even if these stories are true, you have to keep a perspective here. How many of these mistakes appear? 5? 10? 20 a year? Now compare these numbers to the number of bots/hackers/scammers that do get blocked over a year. 10thousand? 50thousand? more? Do the math, here are some numbers from Guild Wars:

During the first two weeks, we did the following:
* Terminated 4,876 accounts associated with RMT networks

This seems like a very low error rate, hm?

And if Player X is too stupid to communicate their problem to the support, it's their own fault. And don't give me that rubbish about not getting a response. If you're in the US you can even call them.

@Mark (Administrator): May I ask why you even bother running this fansite if you have no belief whatsoever in NCsoft? Imho you're in a role that requires a bit more integrity than posting what you are posting here. On the one hand I guess you expect support from them while on the other hand you're talking bad about them behind their back... I'd give you a good slap on the wrist for that.

[Heinel]

Originally Posted by ei8th

@Mark (Administrator): May I ask why you even bother running this fansite if you have no belief whatsoever in NCsoft? Imho you're in a role that requires a bit more integrity than posting what you are posting here. On the one hand I guess you expect support from them while on the other hand you're talking bad about them behind their back... I'd give you a good slap on the wrist for that.

lol wut?

Who said fansite admins have to suck up to the company's ***, as your much angst'ed post exhibits?

[Mark]

Originally Posted by ei8th

I generally don't trust anyones comments regarding a companies performance unless they a) worked there themselves (and then they wouldn't talk about it here) or b) I'd work there myself and could confirm the allegations.

Words words words.

@Mark (Administrator): May I ask why you even bother running this fansite if you have no belief whatsoever in NCsoft? Imho you're in a role that requires a bit more integrity than posting what you are posting here. On the one hand I guess you expect support from them while on the other hand you're talking bad about them behind their back... I'd give you a good slap on the wrist for that.

Read the part you directed at me, then read your first paragraph. That is my answer, specifically option B. I don't work for NCsoft, I don't know how they work. My integrity is concrete. I'm not a marketing shill paid off by a company to say wonderful things about them all the time. And I have gotten slapped on the wrist plenty.

[Zanny]

mistakes are unacceptable from the big cheeze

burn the hearthian!

Originally Posted by Skold