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View Poll Results: Favorite Suggestion?
Bounty System 27 18.75%
Character Profiler 6 4.17%
Journey Book Drops 5 3.47%
Active NPCs/Roaming NPCs 22 15.28%
Family/Marriage System 11 7.64%
PvP/PvE Journal 10 6.94%
Ambient Crowd Noises 1 0.69%
World Raid Challenges 20 13.89%
Mini Games 9 6.25%
Offensive/Defensive Targeting 33 22.92%
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ambient Crowd Noises
When you go to major cities, it doesn't really sound as crowded as it may look. This could be influenced by the number of PCs and/or NPCs, but based on population density in areas, there could be a subtle amount of ambient crowd noise. Just one more step towards full immersion.

Those of us who are or will dole out hella money for a sound system might enjoy it a bit more. Alongside the Active NPCs suggestion, it just takes this game a whole 'nother step further
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World Raid Challenges
YouTube - Aion - giant flying monster
As you can see from that video, it is a giant flying monster and the central concept behind this suggestion. Given it's massive nature, it seems appropriate to kill it with a massive raid. These would not necessarily have to be some of the more important raids, but could be an easier task with less valuable drops. Everyone in the zone would be aware of the monster because it would be visible from any distance within the area. And a signal that the monster has dropped down can be an emote that everyone in the zone sees. "The ground trembles..." or something like that. Or people could look to the sky, and if they can't find it, then it is more than likely a sign that it is ripe for the picking.

An idea that might work well with it, I will allude to Cloverfield for. As you may or may not have saw in the movie, the Cloverfield monster could release offspring of more normal sizes that attacked the people. Now, this could apply to Aion, for these flying monsters and provide for an introduction to raiding.

One problem I find with raiding is that it is difficult to organize and not many people are good at it. What better way to introduce it to people with an easily approachable raid boss with a dozen or so powerful mobs surrounding the area around it? It helps take away the tediousness of assembling a planning a raid and just allows people to group up at a moment's notice to take down the big beast. You wouldn't have to go through all that instance crap and could get right to the big boss, who would be easier than most raid bosses so that quickly assembled raid groups could stand a chance.
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Offensive/Defensive Targeting
Basically, you have an offensive target (i.e. whatever you're attacking) and a defensive target. You designate your defensive target before you actually begin to fight so that all heals and buffs automatically target that person without you having to pick them manually each time. Note that it doesn't actually heal them instantly, just targets them for you, so there's no issues if as a healer you have multiple people you're taking care of. It just defaults to whoever you set as the defensive target, presumably the main tank.

Sylvok's definition is as follows:

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Back in the day I played Vanguard and as bad as that game was one thing I hope goes into all future games, being able to have an offensive and defensive target. This made grouping so much easier, as you didnt have to fly around with your targets all the time. All of you offensive moves would hit the mob and all of your defensive moves would hit your teammate without ever having to switch between the to.

Example: In WoW if you are a shammy and you are enhancement, before the fight you set the tank as your defensive target, during the boss fight you notice the tank is about to die, so you cast a fast heal without having to switch targets off of the boss to the tank then back again. Instead you can cast the fast heal with it automatically going to your defensive target while your offensive target can remain the same.

It's defined on the silkyvenom wiki as:

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A secondary target, seperate from your offensive target, that will recieve benefits such as heals, buffs, and rescues.
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Journey Book Drops
While questing, killing mobs, and searching through locales and treasure chests, you can come across books that tells of personal accounts of people in the Aion universe. This offers historical insight into the history and social/political landscape.

Also, books with information regarding monsters could be dropped. Through killing monsters, you find pieces of lore about them, giving you insight into their history, at the same time, giving you information about their stats, weaknesses, strengths, etc.. This collection of monster lore would function as a bestiary.
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Your character informations are stored on the official homepage in an XML-file (or whatever), where internet sites can get this data to create up-to-date profiler. Then you can use them as signatures, etc.

Another thing that would be good is if you could export your profile to places like Facebook, phpBB (provided that someone makes a phpBB mod), or any other website.
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Originally Posted by PvP/PvE Journal
Players would have the ability to see all PvP related statistics in the game. You could see how many times you've been killed, who killed you, how many kills you've made, and who you've killed, etc. The data would probably have more specific information as well. Such as statistics for certain PvP scenarios.

Not only that but there would be another half to this journal that would display PvE-related statistics, such as how many attempts have been made in certain raid instances, how many times you finished, how many times you wiped, as well as how many mobs you've killed, average exp. earned, the list goes on and on.
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You will have the ability to assign bounties upon people of the enemy faction. That way, you can make gankers pay for their transgressions. But it also costs you cash. You could use cash or unbound items as rewards, which would be give to people who have accepted the bounty from a bounty board of some sort. Then, the bounty will automatically be collected, once the bounty quest has been turned in.
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Originally Posted by Family/Marriage System
Get married and/or have a family, in-game. Nuff said.
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Originally Posted by Roaming NPCs / Active NPCs
This is a two parter, of which, if it wins, I will include a poll to decide which one you prefer.

Roaming NPCs would simply entail NPCs walking around the cities and towns in designated paths. Not necessarily, saying anything, but just adding a touch a activity to the world.

Active NPCs takes it up a notch by not simply scripting paths, but making NPCs have "lives". They would walk out of PC-inaccessible houses, of which there would be a door open/close animation. They would proceed to walk to places like the Inn or Tavern for a bite to eat, having conversations with some people on the way to, and while being in these places. Then, they could venture to the market to buy things, etc. There could be scripted NPCs for the daytime, which would be normal. Then, at night, there could be seedy people who might talk about darker things and engage in conspicuous activities.
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TAVERN EXPERIENCE!!
(Aka Minigames)
The new building layout was thanks to Phibers suggestions on this Idea. About everything else I had to modify the original Idea to fit it, and just some of the features neeed changing. So read everything, its about all new, thanks.

So anyway my old idea has been Turned into a Tavern!! But its still focused on Minigames so don't worry, just the building layout has changed to make it less of a trouble.

So anyone who just wants to relax from your daily PVPVE grindings just come here to play some friendly Minigame fun .

Building Layout
So this place will clearly look like a Tavern, it would just have a lot of round tables with chairs and Waiters in Miniskirts, lol jk, but it’s a Tavern, so it should clearly have something of the sort =p. Then there would like be a bar place where of course you can purchase booze… it’s a tavern after all. Also there will be a Party Room upstairs!! But I will talk about that later

Bartender
He will be the one you go to, to buy booze, but more importantly Ticket/Tokens to get started and Prizes. These ticket/tokens will cost a considerably amount of Qina so that those people with deep pockets won’t be able to get their tokens this way and you’d actually have to play the games to win them.

Prizes
With the ticket/tokens you can purchase prizes from the Bartender, but like stated above, you can’t get your tokens just by purchasing them because they cost quite a bit. And even if somehow you bought enough tokens it would just be a waste because there is a rank system that only lets you purchase a certain number of item depending how high you are in rank. By this I mean like some you’d at least have to have an X number of ranking points, not on how high your rank is on the whole server like Number 1 and all that.
These items are just for Aesthetics, just to like show off and all that.

NPC’s sitting at tables??
These NPC’s sitting at the tables are those mysterious shady, mysterious dudes that are like Masters at the game and all. When you talk to them, they can teach you how to play a specified game, or you can challenge them yourself for practice, but you don’t exactly get anything hehe

What Minigames are there??
I was thinking NC could make a Special card game made for Aion specificaly, like how there was a certain card game from one of the FF games... I forgot which one though. Also some other Minigames that fit in well with the game. Like some strategic board game or something that can simulate war like situations and things. Also some more, because two are just to small.

How do I play these games?
Simple, just sit down at a table, and set up a game and wait for someone to join. When you make your game, you have the options of making it ranked or unranked, incase you just want to play for just fun, and having the option to pick a specified game of your choice of course. Also for some privacy reasons you can set spectator mode to off so random people can’t watch your game.

Well anyway when someone joins your game, you look at their rank, if its too high for you, or you just don’t want to face that person for some particular reason, just kick them and wait for another person to join. When you do find a person to play, you both hit the ready button and Play.

The winner gets the spoils if you put any up, and if it was ranked, the loser loses rank and the winner gains rank depending on how far away the rank between the two players are will determine how much loss and gain of rank there will be.

Betting
When you and your opponent are both sitting at the table, in the Minigames window where you hit ready and all that, there will be a side bar where you can put in Token/Tickets that the winner will get if he won. This is the only real way to get Ticket/Tokens.

Rank System
If you are the host, when you make your game at the table, there will be an option to make the game Ranked or Unranked like stated above. If you chose Unranked you won't lose any of your ranking points. But if you picked Ranked, you will lose points from your ranking Depending on the difference on both your ranks, like if you beat someone on a higher ranked than you, you will receive more points than he would if he beat you.

Depending on your rank, you will be able to purchase different Items from the Clerk NPC in the Main Hall (the items are just for looks).


Party Room
Remember that upstairs room I was talking about earlier? Well here it is, it’s the Party Room, this place is Instanced so anyone can Host their own room if they would like. Just walk to the portal, a window pops up, you click the host button and type in the following info.

Room Name
Password (optional)
Room Duration


Also how long you want to rent this room, hosting parties are no where free, there’s got to be expenses somewhere. So type in how long you want the Party Room to be up, the longer the party, the more Qina you have to pay. Also you can’t exceed anything over like 10 hours. Why? Because imagine what would happen if all these rooms stayed up and were never deleted… Well I don’t know but prob something bad would happen having numerous Rooms generated and staying there for eternity.

That’s it, and if anyone else wants to join you, they just type in the Room Name and Password if you put one up. Then they enter your party room.
Well anyway since you’re the host, you can decorate the party room with w/e options you have, like some for example, put food on the tables, streamers, balloons, some other things? Might even go as far as having a band perform there or something using the Music system below. Like on a stage that you can put inside or something. Too much possibilities.

That’s about it, not to hard, its just a room that is more focused on parties, because I’ve seen quite a few people try to have parties, but no where to have it and the only things they have to work with is huge crowd of people dancing at the same time that’s it.


Music System
Ok well first off, you would need to get instruments and you can get them by purchasing them with your ticket/tokens that you won from the Minigames Room from the NPC in the Main Lobby. With these instruments you would be able to play various songs by buying the Song Scripts that you bought from the NPC in the Minigames room with your ticket/tokens.

Song Scripts
To play your instrument you'd have to purchase song scripts that you can buy from the NPC in the Main Lobby of the Minigames Room with your ticket/tokens and before you would buy them, they would have a difficulty rating next to it or so.
These song scripts are what would activate your instrument when you have them equiped or something allowing you to play various songs. Maybe some of the songs already in the game??

But playing these songs won't be so easy, you'd have to have atleast some skill to play them. So when you activate you Song Script you'd get another window that shows up.
To play the songs you'd have to hit the one or more of the arrow keys on time as they show up on the window. Sort of like Flash flash revolution a bit but instead, here if you missed the arrow you wouldn't play that note from the song and same thing goes if you hit the wrong arrow. So that you'd actualy have to have some skill to play the songs. Or some other way that turns Playing the Instrument into more of a Minigame type thing.

Restrictions??
This feature would of course have maybe a 2 minute cooldown or so or longer or maybe even less depending where you are, so you don't annoy the hell out of other people by constant playing like in cities. Since there would probably end up being alot of people doing this.
Think it out before you pick. Give yourself some time. After all, you have a week to do so. But don't forget to vote, because every single one counts.

Right now, I can't decide between the Bounty System and the Active NPCs. I like the Active NPCs in particular because they would be more life-like. But the bounty system would give you more to do. So hard to choose >.<

UPDATE: I added the minigames thing. Sorry about that.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well I will do a vote for Active NPCs! YAY ME!

I posted before the poll was even up! DOUBLE YAY!

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btw Nep its you that's crazier than Zeon
I know, but the sig is really an inside joke. Zaeon calls me a duck, and I call him a goose. We are also twins so you dont know where to turn. ^^ its funny.
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Old 04-29-2008, 11:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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most of those things are generic

the family marriage thing to me sounds like something you would look into if you were a no-lifer

btw Nep its you that's crazier than Zeon
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I have to admit that I wasn't extremely excited about the suggestions this time around (Not like I could come up with something better though....) but I think that World Raids would be really cool.
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I know, but the sig is really an inside joke. Zaeon calls me a duck, and I call him a goose. We are also twins so you dont know where to turn. ^^ its funny.
You're both a couple of quacks if you ask me. But that's interesting. Twins on the forum.

Yeah, this one is a bit lackluster, with the exception of a few that I would absolutely love to see. Ambient crowd noises and active NPCs would up the anty for the RP genre. In fact, that gives me an idea with which I could build upon the active NPCs thing. But I will not mention it, cuz I don't want to make the options too ambiguous.
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I would like to see the crowd noises, but that seems like a much less enjoyable feature than some others. The Roaming/Active NPCs one would also be a great asset to the realism of the game.
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I love bounties. Even if it is not part of the game, it is fun to implement as a community through boards and guilds.
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Of all the choices available only journey books caught my eye. Mainly because it's the only one that makes a difference.. Plus it's a good source of lore, as well as general in game knowledge. When books are implemented in GW the general public seemed to think it's a great addition too.

Bounty doesn't really need a system in place... just yell out the names in the main city, it's free too. People who get ganked probably can't afford to give anything worthwhile to begin with. Then, people who are in for the bounty probably aren't good enough to kill the gankers either. Those who can, only need to know the name.

Offensive defensive targetting. Well in GW you can set all your party members on hotkeys.. so it's offensive, defensive 1, defensive 2, defensive 3, defensive 4....... as many as you want. Much better.

World Raid. I think that's already planned by the devs, why else would they make a video with a huge monster in it. No need to suggest.

PvP/PvE journal. I think that's called the status window.

Marriage. If there's no arbitrary limitations like gender, then maybe.

Roaming NPC, ambient crowd noise. If I can choose more than one then both of these together will be my second choice. I might end up turning them off after awhile though. As far as immersion goes, journey books do more for me.

PS: Oops. Missed minigames. Well, if the choice is between book or minigame, it will still be book.
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I love bounties. Even if it is not part of the game, it is fun to implement as a community through boards and guilds.
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I'm for the bounty system all the way!
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Bounty doesn't really need a system in place... just yell out the names in the main city, it's free too. People who get ganked probably can't afford to give anything worthwhile to begin with. Then, people who are in for the bounty probably aren't good enough to kill the gankers either. Those who can, only need to know the name.
People like infrastructure. It's too much trouble to handle your own transaction over a bounty without a system. You can't necessarily prove that the guy was killed and it's just messy. Like I said, people like infrastructure. You think people would start running bus services, just cuz there isn't a bus mass transit system in place? No. People are kinda lazy like that and need direction.

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World Raid. I think that's already planned by the devs, why else would they make a video with a huge monster in it. No need to suggest.
It's arguing purpose more than planning. But in terms of planning, I will say that I have heard no reports whatsoever that you can even interact with the flying monsters in the sky. So, this would just give them a place in the world. Anyways, the purpose of the suggestion is to introduce people to raiding and/or give people an easy, quick raid.

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Roaming NPC, ambient crowd noise. If I can choose more than one then both of these together will be my second choice. I might end up turning them off after awhile though. As far as immersion goes, journey books do more for me.
Yeah, I was considering going for the combo. But oh well. We can debate that if it wins and suggest combining it. If it doesn't win, then we can suggest combining them for the next cycle.

For now, I'm gonna have to go for gaming content, as opposed to gaming atmosphere. More to do over more to see. I'll pick the Active NPCs/Crowd Noises next time.
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