why bring DPS glad over sin or sorc to PvE?

[danstaff]

Originally Posted by Griffeh

Sorc's have more than one cc. Learn how to raid with an AoE class.

When exactly did i claim that sorcs only had one cc? Learn to read.

[turquoise]

Originally Posted by Xenogrant

Ideal group make up: 3 glads 2 clerics. You read it here first.

I'd replace 1 cleric with a chanter.

[Dissonance]

Originally Posted by turquoise

I'd replace 1 cleric with a chanter.

That's what I said Two clerics is just redundant and such. I think this thread's pretty much done though, question's been pretty thoroughly answered, I'd say!

[turquoise]

Originally Posted by Dissonance

I never said chanters can touch a cleric in terms of healing, I just said at end game when people start to get really good gear, the cleric isn't needed as badly anymore. Thus why I think having two of them in a group would be kinda silly!

And yeah the cleric might not contribute much direct damage personally, but a chanter adds much speed to the group through use of chants and wishes.

I still stick with the idea of 3 glad 1 cleric 1 chanter Seems like it'd be a really good group.

lol, i didn't see your post. But I agree with you. Chanter's buffs add a lot , at least to Glads.

[Zory]

Correct me if I'm wrong... but aren't groups made to have 6 people in them...? Not 5?

[Ravaker]

Glads can take damage and side tank.

[Landar486]

you bring a gladiator because they're dps.

(and they're fun to watch in combat)

[Strata]

anyone notice why Templars can take damage better than Gladiators? they carry a shield with damage reduction! and the more + you have on it the more reduction there is....

[Xenogrant]

Originally Posted by Strata

anyone notice why Templars can take damage better than Gladiators? they carry a shield with damage reduction! and the more + you have on it the more reduction there is....

Glads can also equip a shield though. I swap out between shield and 2 hander as situation requires. I'd even go so far as to argue that gladiator makes a better tank at early levels due to their stigma that boosts block and parry rates. The thing with single mob pulls is that if a healer can outheal the dps it doesn't really matter if a templar tanks, a glad tanks it or assassin tanks it, when all said and done the mob is dead.

As for bringing a chanter instead of a cleric, it was my understanding that the food buffs don't stack with chanter buffs, and food effect is actually greater than chanter buffs, in which case i'd take 30% bigger heals instead and nearly infinite mana pool.

[danstaff]

Originally Posted by Xenogrant

As for bringing a chanter instead of a cleric, it was my understanding that the food buffs don't stack with chanter buffs, and food effect is actually greater than chanter buffs, in which case i'd take 30% bigger heals instead and nearly infinite mana pool.

Na food stacks with chanter buffs. They can have 1 food and 1 drink just like anyone else.

IMO the chanter buffs mop the floor with the food buffs. Food needs some attention bad. At that level only things that food can buff that chanters cant are..MP, regens, and... mag resist. Everything else is beaten by an aura. For example, +4 patk< +10 patk aura.

Later on chanters will have Intensity Mantra II - Skills - Aion too, Hp/MP regens, resists, etc.

Cooking is lacking hardcore unless you plan on mastering it for the dp food.

[Xenogrant]

The food I'm using also buffs my attack by +10, just bring a stack of food for party members and swap out chanter for cleric for better heals, chanter buffs don't seem to scale well with levels at all, hope they get some love. I'll have guildie chanter check if his buffs stack with food though.

[conana]

Currently, I'm playing cAion.

When I was level 20, I've already tanked the whole elite Tursin area up to the big boss. I have also off-tanked when we had a templar. There are couple of scenarios you would prefer a gladiator over a sorc/sin.

1.) We can do quite a lot of DPS, if we do over-take aggro, we can OT it as well. (I've seen a lot of sorc died in 2 hits)
2.) Yes, we can MT. At least when you're leveling, it's just all depend on how you gem your gears. A lot of people add pure crit to their gears, I put some +HP stones in case I need to tank. CARRY A SHIELD at all time, it can save your life.
3.) We can aoe dmg, even though it's not a big plus, but it's more than nothing =)
4.) There are a lot of mobs that will stun the MT, that's when you taunt it to keep the monster off the healers. (Cleric don't get decrease enmity until lvl 30 or so I believe). They general a lot of hate.

I have actually been asked to go to a lot of elite area by people, just because we can OT and dps.

If people do not like glad, oh well, it's their loss =)

[Awantos]

Originally Posted by Xenogrant

The food I'm using also buffs my attack by +10, just bring a stack of food for party members and swap out chanter for cleric for better heals, chanter buffs don't seem to scale well with levels at all, hope they get some love. I'll have guildie chanter check if his buffs stack with food though.

i think you have no clue what the mantras do. chanter/cleric is alot better than cleric/cleric

[Xenogrant]

I don't know squat about healers in this game other than clerics being able to top off my HP from next to nothing to almost full. And I'm going off 2 people's opinions who are credible. One is a guildie chanter saying clerics can heal way better, and second a guy I know from gaming community who's been around who is also saying there's next to no reason to bring a chanter after playing one.

You can read his class review here:

Class Overview: Chanter - Unmoderated Info

Class Overview: Chanter - Unmoderated Info

[niuniu]

because sorcs and sins can't offtank..