Old 06-22-2008, 12:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I'm guessing you didn't read one post here and just read the thread title and clicked reply right?



Yeah that also comes into question..
I read the every post, the point is if some race dosent have a bar and keep spamming attacks what happens to the ranged magicians and the bowmans (how ever far away they are) when it becomes melee and they have to chug potions just to perform basic attacks, they lose and that means you have unbalanced races, i believe i read everything and know what im talking about
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I read the every post, the point is if some race dosent have a bar and keep spamming attacks what happens to the ranged magicians and the bowmans (how ever far away they are) when it becomes melee and they have to chug potions just to perform basic attacks, they lose and that means you have unbalanced races, i believe i read everything and know what im talking about
Your an idiot, I was talking about rage, you know the BAR that warriors generate when they deal and take damage in WoW and GW.

How thick can you be to overlook the main point of this thread?
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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GW had warrior skills which utilised Mana, and some which utilised Rage. Hopefully Aion will be like that; a mix. Oh, and don't forget the DP skills (although, isn't that kind of like Rage?).
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Old 06-22-2008, 02:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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You gain DP after killing a mob, it gradually increases, I'm sure it takes a while to fill your whole bar up, going to become a nuisance to fill up for every raid and PvP without logging out or getting d/c'd
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:01 PM   #35 (permalink)
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GW had warrior skills which utilised Mana, and some which utilised Rage. Hopefully Aion will be like that; a mix. Oh, and don't forget the DP skills (although, isn't that kind of like Rage?).
Not really, you gain it every time you kill a mob but it's for every class and you only have 2 abilities that utilise DP, nevermind how OP they are.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:13 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Your an idiot, I was talking about rage, you know the BAR that warriors generate when they deal and take damage in WoW and GW.

How thick can you be to overlook the main point of this thread?
Rage is stupid. How unfair is it that warriors, outside of HP, can have infinite combat resources while a caster can't? Everybody has unlimited resources or everybody has limited resources. For what I believe to be best for game balance, NCSoft has made the right choice in using mana. Sure it could've been named for fittingly for a warrior like stamina or something, but the as long as the system is the same, it's all good. And if that's all you cared about, it's a purely cosmetic thing. If what you really wanted was infinite combat resources at the expense of other classes, well let's not be greedy and try to overpower our favoured classes yet.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:05 AM   #37 (permalink)
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and how do you know this is a skill spamming game? How do you know it takes 1000000mp per skill? How do you know it takes 100 skills to kill each mob/person?


Please dont go psycho-ballistic over things you dont know about...


I'm sure they know what they are doing
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:56 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Thing is, spell casters can pay attention to there bars all day because they're sitting at the back, usually not even getting hit or not in the mix. Warriors have to use skills quicker faster, more efficiently and smarter to work, there has to be spamming, it's used in every game. How will it possibly be the same if one is generated by combat, and the other is generated naturally, but slower and less efficiently ? Your logic fails and you have nothing to back up you're statements.
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You look at hey we have mana now, OMFG!! When in fact most of the games i played before WoW warriors had mana, and used it in combat almost like a Ret Pally in WoW, but you take that as omg devs are slapping me in the face with we don't have rage. Usually the warriors take less mana to do their skills so that it lasts longer and you don't have to sit there getting the **** beat out of you waiting for rage, you can use the mana kill things and be done. Also all warriors do is hold agro, there in you need "agro" not alot of damage. If you have a tank you will have the aoe to hold agro and a glad will just be dps so he will have fast high damage skills to cause quick damage. Where as in wow you aren't being hit so you won't build as much rage. Also there will be some sort of delay on you so that you don't pull agro, for non-tank agro=bad. Sorry if my logic also fails but i see that a Warrior having mana is no big deal, maybe just because i'm use to it idk. Also you said, "Warriors have to use skills quicker faster, more efficiently and smarter to work, there has to be spamming, it's used in every game." You don't think that a dps has to use their skills efficiently, fast, and smart to make things work??? I'm sorry that just doesn't make any sense to me. DPS creed use the right skills at the right time, if you have a fire mage in wow and you are going up a against a fire boss they need to use either frost or arcane... the boss will have a resistance to the fire, lets not insult a class just because you don't think they need to do things right try running an instance with people that don't know what they are doing. I've done it kinda ruins the fun under geared people that know what they are doing are better to have in a group than over geared people that don't have a clue. I've tanked before and dpsed i quit tanking and went boomkin because i can't do it, the truth is that any class you have; you have to know what you are doing and how to do it. I've said my opinion now and will shut up.
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Old 06-23-2008, 07:04 AM   #39 (permalink)
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hi ,anyone know the name of the song in the youtube clip Writh linked in this thread
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Old 06-23-2008, 08:21 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I dont think you should worry until you see how the mana consumption process happens on different classes in PVE and PVP.
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Old 06-23-2008, 12:46 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Meh.... the OP is missing something...he is trying to play L2 like he plays WoW. Doesn't work...in L2 you really don't use skills to kill mobs, those are basically reserved for pvp.

Most parties have the dd melee just hitting the mobs with no special skills being used, the crits are decent enough dps... I'd say you might have to learn how to play this class and when to use skills like rage and when not too. It's nice because it seperates good, skilled players that learn how to pvp well with a class from players like .... well....you, for example. (someone who always plays one class, the same way, every circumstance, scenario and game)

*Also if you like WoW and GW so much, that you're gonna spaz pre-release about something you aren't even sure about, maybe you should GTFO and go back to WoW/GW?
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:10 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You gain DP after killing a mob, it gradually increases, I'm sure it takes a while to fill your whole bar up, going to become a nuisance to fill up for every raid and PvP without logging out or getting d/c'd
Pretty sure DP cant be used in PVP.
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Old 06-23-2008, 02:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
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really? that would make the Gstar trailer completely invalid, can you use them on the balaur?

But i would actually prefer no DP skills in PvP
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Most parties have the dd melee just hitting the mobs with no special skills being used, the crits are decent enough dps...
Man, that sounds really retarded.
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Old 06-23-2008, 04:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I would love to see people stop comparing any game out there with WoW.
After almost 3 years of WoW i want something diferent and if warrior have mana so be it.
I curently continue playing WoW couse nothing else to do but i do espect Aion to be realeased fast and i hope i will get a totaly diferent feeling in Aion , tyred of non stop raiding , wipe 1 bilion times untill you learn the boss and move to next, and pvp is boring like hell.

LethalGT , If you want warriors with rage and asasins with energy then dont quit playing WoW.

And who sayed Blue bar = mana? i played a korean game where blue bar ment energy and all classes have it.

Next you will say , LoL gladiators and asasins have spells, WoW warriors and rogues dont have spells they are melee.

I think i read somewhere in Aion all classes will have some sort of healing just that will be litle and easy to interrupt for non healing classes.

If you can not play Aion couse gladiators and assasins have mana bars my care lvl is 0.
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